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Old 07-17-2010, 12:09 PM   #1
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The only way to be a true main eventer is to have "IT"


Swagger got the title and the majority (not including myself) didn't consider him an actual main eventer. That's probably why he held the title RIGHT AFTER Wrestlemania since its considered by some to be the slow/off season.


You must have IT. Titles are great but you have to be a total package. Yes you are correct in saying that it only happens over time. You don't walk in to RAW and become a main eventer.

Sheamus, on the other hand, was basically forced into the main event scene BUT, over time, I have come to consider him a top dog & a main event wrestler. WWE took a gamble on HHH's friend and luckily it paid off....Which is a good thing because the new crop is sorely missing the IT Main Event stars.



My hope for the next 2 years is Wade Barrett.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:57 PM   #2
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The only way to be a true main eventer is to have "IT"


Swagger got the title and the majority (not including myself) didn't consider him an actual main eventer. That's probably why he held the title RIGHT AFTER Wrestlemania since its considered by some to be the slow/off season.


You must have IT. Titles are great but you have to be a total package. Yes you are correct in saying that it only happens over time. You don't walk in to RAW and become a main eventer.

Sheamus, on the other hand, was basically forced into the main event scene BUT, over time, I have come to consider him a top dog & a main event wrestler. WWE took a gamble on HHH's friend and luckily it paid off....Which is a good thing because the new crop is sorely missing the IT Main Event stars.



My hope for the next 2 years is Wade Barrett.
the term "IT" is kinda sketchy to me it's like saying "work rate" imo its such an abstract term.

I don't think this new gen is missing anything major just a bit more polish is needed. if i said the new generation (i.e. Miz, Morrison, Kofi, Ziggler etc) they all have everything but the great finisher. punk is the greatest example of this to me if punk kept using the anaconda vice he wouldn't have been able to get as over as well as he is with the GTS
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:12 PM   #3
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the term "IT" is kinda sketchy to me it's like saying "work rate" imo its such an abstract term.

I don't think this new gen is missing anything major just a bit more polish is needed. if i said the new generation (i.e. Miz, Morrison, Kofi, Ziggler etc) they all have everything but the great finisher. punk is the greatest example of this to me if punk kept using the anaconda vice he wouldn't have been able to get as over as well as he is with the GTS


Looking at your list and comparing them to the current main eventers and the main eventers of my childhood...I just don't see it at all.


Morrison over Cena/Hogan/Hart/Michaels/Taker - no way

Miz could become THE guy

Kofi is very talented and very over but as we have seen before when he was on RAW, it takes WWE writers and fans all of 2 seconds to forget him.

Ziggler - A strong mid card talent he will always be and that is not a put down.



I just don't see hardly any of the fresh faces of WWE reaching the heights of the ones I listed above.....Could be wrong (and probably am) but currently there is NOBODY even close to a Taker/HBK/HHH.
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Looking at your list and comparing them to the current main eventers and the main eventers of my childhood...I just don't see it at all.


Morrison over Cena/Hogan/Hart/Michaels/Taker - no way

Miz could become THE guy

Kofi is very talented and very over but as we have seen before when he was on RAW, it takes WWE writers and fans all of 2 seconds to forget him.

Ziggler - A strong mid card talent he will always be and that is not a put down.



I just don't see hardly any of the fresh faces of WWE reaching the heights of the ones I listed above.....Could be wrong (and probably am) but currently there is NOBODY even close to a Taker/HBK/HHH.
that's when i think it becomes harder to see because people are looking for the next rock, undertaker, hhh, or hbk. that's not what it should be about all three of the guys you mentioned are three totally different guys from imo three different areas on the spectrum. give the guys today a chance to find there own way to the ME picture
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Kofi is very talented and very over but as we have seen before when he was on RAW, it takes WWE writers and fans all of 2 seconds to forget him.
If he's very over then the fans don't forget him....
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the term "IT" is kinda sketchy to me it's like saying "work rate" imo its such an abstract term.

I don't think this new gen is missing anything major just a bit more polish is needed. if i said the new generation (i.e. Miz, Morrison, Kofi, Ziggler etc) they all have everything but the great finisher. punk is the greatest example of this to me if punk kept using the anaconda vice he wouldn't have been able to get as over as well as he is with the GTS
workrate is not abstract at all, you just dont know what it means. it = working as hard as possible. nothin more. between the bells he goes harder. more movement, more action. he pushes forward as an athlete. someone who is in the ring working hard, not takin short cuts or squeezing in breaks. its who is constantly working to their fullest athletically.

its like, your at the gym. your muscles are screaming your about maxxed. its your last three reps, and you slack on your form/extension to get threw it instead of giving your all and making those last 3 reps matter. that guy has poor workrate.

the guy with good work rate is the guy who set out to run 20 min on the treadmill but at the end he saw he had a lot more to give so he ran another 40 min. thats workrate. he`s workin hard for the people and not just giving the minimal he can get by on.

and to end this: for my money chris benoit had the highest workrate of all time.
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