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Old 10-14-2010, 10:59 AM   #41
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Jeff Hardy turning heel is, in my opinion, a great move. Hardy as a face wasn't turning heads; but he's suck a stock face that turning him heel as generated a fair bit of interest. The follow-up might blow, however. I do like that they seem to want to build up Brian Kendrick, too, but I don't think they are going about it in the very best way possible.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:46 AM   #42
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The only thing TNA has going for them is their roster, some strong superstars (maybe besides the 'older' ones)
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Old 10-14-2010, 12:15 PM   #43
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What is TNA doing right? Turning Hardy heel, push the tag team division, I marked out when Jarrett joined "They".
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:10 PM   #44
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I like Hardy turning heel, although I'm skeptical as to whether or not he can portray a heel persona convincingly.

They do have an amazing roster, but they're just so schizophrenic with their booking, and they lack commitment when it comes to who is being pushed and why.
Next thing you know Mr. Anderson is going to be heel again once he recovers from his injury...again.

Oh, and Daffney needs a push and more TV time.
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I like Hardy turning heel, although I'm skeptical as to whether or not he can portray a heel persona convincingly.

They do have an amazing roster, but they're just so schizophrenic with their booking, and they lack commitment when it comes to who is being pushed and why.
Next thing you know Mr. Anderson is going to be heel again once he recovers from his injury...again.

Oh, and Daffney needs a push and more TV time.
More Daffney on TV is never a bad thing. I think that TNA has a good roster too, but the problem is that they are comletely burring their home grown stars. I dont think having Jeff, Kurt and Ken in the main event picture is a bad thing. I would just like to see Kazarian, Jay Lethal, or even Eric Young be utilized in the main event picture.


Side note, I know it's been said before but Jeff should take some time off and refocus/ get in better shape (it's affecting his in ring preformance too)
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:09 AM   #46
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TNA apparently have done it again. This angle with Jeff Hardy really could have been used to create some definitive face/heel lines. Jeff Hardy could be the most hated man in the business, and Abyss and The Pope being aligned with him could have really become heat-machines, as well. But we've already had Pope turn face again. Didn't he just turn heel the other week?

If I were booking this storyline, I'd have had Bischoff try to win Rob Van Dam over to their side. Bischoff could give RVD a title shot...against AJ Styles. TNA TV Title match -- RVD vs. AJ Styles. Technically, RVD would be the face in the feud, but there would be drama between whether or not RVD will also sell his soul to the devil, and AJ Styles can get heat by suggesting that RVD would, and that this is house that the guys in Fourtune built, etc.

Meanwhile, Mr. Anderson is trying to earn a spot back in the company for Kurt Angle and the TNA World Heavyweight Championship for himself. Anderson takes out Nash and Sting without much effort. Samoa Joe is also after Jarrett, who also finds himself the target of Eric Young. You could also turn Orlando Jordan face with Young. I know people aren't that high on him, but TNA loves him, and it is far more couragious to present a bisexual weirdo as a hero rather than a villain in today's world. You can have a Booker T/Goldust-style relationship develop between Young & Jordan.

Eventually, RVD does sell his soul to Bischoff, and aligns himself with Jeffrey Nero. Not as a shock, but as a piece of development for RVD's character. I'm wondering whether it would be more beneficial to bring in Matt Hardy as a face to oppose his brother, or if Matthew Moore should also join "Them."

It's not the best angle ever, or anything, but there is potential and quite a gripping story behind this Hardy heel turn. But TNA are just chopping and changing everyone so there's no point getting attached to any of the characters.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:13 AM   #47
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But we've already had Pope turn face again. Didn't he just turn heel the other week?
No, he didn't turn heel.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:37 AM   #48
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No, he didn't turn heel.
Yeah, and he's continuing Kevin Nash and Sting's cause against Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff.
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But Pope, Nash & Sting were heels against Joe & Jarrett, weren't they?
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:48 AM   #50
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But Pope, Nash & Sting were heels against Joe & Jarrett, weren't they?
Yeah, but after the revealing of "they," it's revealed that they were faces all along.
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Old 10-17-2010, 02:48 AM   #51
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Oh golly. Sometimes it's better to just have straight-forward booking, is it not?
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:00 AM   #52
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It's not very hard to figure out.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:53 AM   #53
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It'd help if TNA fans actually cheered and boo'd instead of just cheering and try to get themselves over as lame ECW fan rip-offs.
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:22 PM   #54
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tna did this pretty right..
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:30 PM   #55
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It'd help if TNA fans actually cheered and boo'd instead of just cheering and try to get themselves over as lame ECW fan rip-offs.
Agreed. The only company whose fans see a side headlock and chant "THIS IS AWESOME!!" *clap clap clap clap clap* "THIS IS AWESOME!"
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Orton jumps up higher and "catches" them with his,making it different.DDP and Shoreboy just drive em down.It's a slight difference,and makes sense cause DDP is from Jersey.
big slim j is right here, there is a variation of the move here which makes it different. Both moves are a version of the cutter neckbreaker, but have different standing position variations on how the move is pulled off.

DDP's Diamond Cutter is a straight front face lock with interlocked fingers and the opponent falls with the momentum as DDP pulls them down.

Whearas Randy' Orton's RKO does not include a full front face lock nor is there any locking of the fingers. Orton comes from a prone, running, or stationary position and jumps while his opponent mimmick his grabbing them with one arm around the neck and falls down as Orton's momentum takes him to the ground, mimicking the impression of the neckbreaker.

In essence, DDP's Diamond Cutter is a full variation of the Cutter neckbreaker, whereas the RKO is a complete invoation of itself, so to clarify as Pope said in a later post, it is in FACT NOT the same move.
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Sad to see that no one has mentioned Fortune as being a good point of TNA...if they hadn't included them with Immortal which is what they are calling the grouping of Hardy, Bischoff, Hogan, Jarrett, and Abyss, they could have a good stable vs stable war that hasn't really been seen in wrestling lately. Could have culminated in a introduction of TNA trumping WWE to using the War Games match, even though they already have Lethal Lockdown. Fortune has some great talent in Doug Williams, Morgan, and Beer Money, along with established stars Styles and Kazarian. Wrestling is missing some good and solid stables to help stimulate tag team divisions.
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No, Fourtune was horrible.

They had some big angle with Ric Flair announcing who would get in the group, then a few weeks later just start adding people to it without reason.
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LOL, fucked up.

Flair really needs to either get his hair fixed, or shave it off, from the back he's starting to resemble Hogan.
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Agreed. The only company whose fans see a side headlock and chant "THIS IS AWESOME!!" *clap clap clap clap clap* "THIS IS AWESOME!"
I'd rather the fans be a bit over the top than just dead as fuck like WWE.
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tna did this pretty right..
Meh...I honestly feel like all I watched was two over the hill has beens beating their own faces and rambling incoherently. Flair sounded like he wasn't even listening to what Mick was saying.
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big slim j is right here, there is a variation of the move here which makes it different. Both moves are a version of the cutter neckbreaker, but have different standing position variations on how the move is pulled off.

DDP's Diamond Cutter is a straight front face lock with interlocked fingers and the opponent falls with the momentum as DDP pulls them down.

Whearas Randy' Orton's RKO does not include a full front face lock nor is there any locking of the fingers. Orton comes from a prone, running, or stationary position and jumps while his opponent mimmick his grabbing them with one arm around the neck and falls down as Orton's momentum takes him to the ground, mimicking the impression of the neckbreaker.

In essence, DDP's Diamond Cutter is a full variation of the Cutter neckbreaker, whereas the RKO is a complete invoation of itself, so to clarify as Pope said in a later post, it is in FACT NOT the same move.
The Diamond Cutter is a variation of the Ace Crusher, innovated by Johnny Ace, who unfortunately is in charge of talent hiring and firing in WWE.
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No, Fourtune was horrible.

They had some big angle with Ric Flair announcing who would get in the group, then a few weeks later just start adding people to it without reason.
They explained it.
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The Diamond Cutter is a variation of the Ace Crusher, innovated by Johnny Ace, who unfortunately is in charge of talent hiring and firing in WWE.
Thank you for clearing this up.
Also, I guess a generic way of calling it would be a modified neckbreaker.
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