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Old 10-23-2010, 12:48 AM   #4001
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Well, congats Texas, definitely the better team.
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:33 AM   #4002
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Lee said he would 100% re-sign with the Rangers if they won the WS. Even if they don't I honestly think it'd be hard for him to leave after this. Rangers won't offer him quite as much as the Yanks, but he should still see close to a 9-figure salary to stick around on a contender.

I also think he may have too much fun beating on the Yanks to make a heel turn and join them. I've thought that in the past with guys like Damon and such but this just feels a bit different.
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:54 AM   #4003
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Kinda sucks that rooting against the #1 bandwagon team in all of sports meant that you had to side with Cowboys fans, which wasn't that bad until they played that retarded Texas song after the game ended. And I don't see how Lee signing with the Yankees would be worse than Damon, that guy played for their hated rival and was involved in the greatest comeback of all time against them and then went in front of the whole world and lied by saying "I can't see myself ever playing for the Yankees" when that is exactly what he did. Cliff Lee for the last few years has just been the guy that any team will pay a ton of money for just to have him dominate the second half of the season, I don't see why he wouldn't take all the money the Yankees are gonna throw at him.
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Old 10-23-2010, 02:30 AM   #4004
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Kinda sucks that rooting against the #1 bandwagon team in all of sports meant that you had to side with Cowboys fans, which wasn't that bad until they played that retarded Texas song after the game ended. And I don't see how Lee signing with the Yankees would be worse than Damon, that guy played for their hated rival and was involved in the greatest comeback of all time against them and then went in front of the whole world and lied by saying "I can't see myself ever playing for the Yankees" when that is exactly what he did. Cliff Lee for the last few years has just been the guy that any team will pay a ton of money for just to have him dominate the second half of the season, I don't see why he wouldn't take all the money the Yankees are gonna throw at him.
Kinda like that stupid New York song the Yankees play?
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Kinda like that stupid New York song the Yankees play?
You mean "New York New York" by the Chairman of the fucking board Frank Sinatra?

Congrats your team won, but you just called Frank Sinatra stupid? Really? Come on!

Fuck the Yankees, woooooo! The true kings of the AL East in the 21st century remain the Red Sox with two world series rings to 1 for the Yankees!
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:21 AM   #4006
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*yawns*

Well, that didn't go over well. Whatever. There's always next year.

Offseason is sure gonna be fun.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:51 AM   #4007
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The one bad thing about when the Yankees lose is you know that they are gonna re-load this offseason. Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, and Clifton Phiefer may all be wearing pinstripes next year.
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Cliff Lee is obviously our primary target this offseason, along with about 5-6 other things that must be addressed on our to do list.

I see no reason to bring aboard Crawford or Werth.
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Just simple upgrades. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Mark Teixeira two years ago but saw the chance to upgrade and took it. Imagine Crawford in left, Werth in right, and Swisher DH? Pretty big upgrade over Gardner, Swisher, and Thames.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:34 AM   #4010
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Just simple upgrades. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Mark Teixeira two years ago but saw the chance to upgrade and took it. Imagine Crawford in left, Werth in right, and Swisher DH? Pretty big upgrade over Gardner, Swisher, and Thames.
I can't see the Yankees being players for Werth, other than maybe to bring the price up for the Sox or Angels. Everyone says Crawford to the Yankees and the evidence points to them getting Crawford (they didn't go after Holiday or Bay last year) but I would never give Crawford 7 @ 100+. Once his legs go, he won't have anything. His OBP isn't great, I don't believe in the power and he's not a super high average hitter.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:07 AM   #4011
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I can't really see the Yankees getting a big bat. Thames had a good year so I'd have to think he'll be back in some capacity. There's also a mutual option with Berkman but I don't think they'd want to spend $15 million on him. Plus Posada will be back and you have to think there's at least a chance he'll be the DH if Montero proves himself to be ready for the bigs.

The other spots are already locked down for next year except for SS technically, but we know Jeter will be back.

I can see them grabbing an extra bullpen arm and of course making a run at Cliff Lee. If they don't Lee I could see them getting Lilly or somebody.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:40 AM   #4012
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I feel like Lilly resigned with the Dodgers but I could be wrong
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:44 AM   #4013
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Oh, he did....just yesterday. Whoops.
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What I suspect the Yankees will do:

Vazquez - gone obviously
Pettite - would return I suspect
Rivera - Will return on the "Yankee lifetime reward contract"
Jeter - Same as Rivera but this one could turn out ugly - he did nothing after the break
Burnett - Will be back - too much money and they'd probably have to pay $40 or so of the $50 million left on his deal to move him
Wood - Will be back in some capacity, dunno if they're going to pick up an 11 million dollar option for a setup man

I think they'll give Nova a chance to win a rotation spot next year. I think they will sign Crawford. They would look like:

Jeter
Crawford
Teixeria
Rodriguez
Cano
Posada DH
Swisher
Montero
Granderson

Sabathia
Hughes
Pettite
Burnett
Nova

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Joba isn't here at the start of the 2011 season - be it in the minors or elsewhere
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Old 10-23-2010, 02:34 PM   #4015
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You know, I don't think the offseason is going to be as full of surprise and storylines as most people think. I actually think it'll go down pretty calmly.

Yankees will sign Jeter, there's no doubt, and will also sign Rivera. They have to let Vazquez go, they have to evaluate Burnett and see if he's worth keeping or if they should try to trade him. I don't see any chance of Lee going to the Yankees. I think he enjoys beating them too much, plus, he's found a home in Texas, they are doing pretty well, and what he really wants to do is win, so I think Nolan Ryan and Ron Washington will sit down with him and work something out. And if they win the World Series, that meeting will be even easier.

Offensively I don't see the Yanks doing much. I don't see them adding Crawford, and I don't see them adding Werth.
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Old 10-23-2010, 02:47 PM   #4016
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I hope the Giants win. I just want to walk around San Francisco during the World Series.
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Werth needs to sign with the Blue Jays. Just because.
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They will.

Tonight.
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Old 10-23-2010, 05:13 PM   #4019
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The Yankees really don't have that much to change. Part of that is just that a lot of the positions have guys locked in already. Basically, bring Jeter and Mariano back. Jeter will be signed for too long and too much money, thats pretty much inevitable. Earlier in the season Mo talked about how he wouldn't mind going year by year. But I'm guessing they'll give him a two year deal. And probably going hard for Lee. After thats its just smaller pieces like the bench, maybe bringing Thames back.

Seriously doubt they go after Crawford or Werth. They'll obviously be linked to them all offseason but I don't think they'll have serious interest in them.
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You know, I don't think the offseason is going to be as full of surprise and storylines as most people think. I actually think it'll go down pretty calmly.

Yankees will sign Jeter, there's no doubt, and will also sign Rivera. They have to let Vazquez go, they have to evaluate Burnett and see if he's worth keeping or if they should try to trade him. I don't see any chance of Lee going to the Yankees. I think he enjoys beating them too much, plus, he's found a home in Texas, they are doing pretty well, and what he really wants to do is win, so I think Nolan Ryan and Ron Washington will sit down with him and work something out. And if they win the World Series, that meeting will be even easier.

Offensively I don't see the Yanks doing much. I don't see them adding Crawford, and I don't see them adding Werth.
I think he'll go to whoever offers the most. Haven't really heard of anyone passing up millions and millions of dollars because they enjoy beating up on a team. Sure, if Texas offers something in the same range as the Yankees he'd probably stay. If Texas doesn't offer the money, he's not staying. I dunno if its just the interviews I've seen with him or the fact that he's been on so many different teams over the past couple years, but I think he's absolutely just going to the highest bidder.
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Old 10-23-2010, 05:32 PM   #4021
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Just wanna state for the record that I like Brett Gardner in pinstripes. So, no thank you for Carl Crawford.

Also gotta remember the braintrust gotta make a decision on Girardi. He's done too. I'm willing to bet when he gets home he may have a message or two from clubs with manager vacancies. But I think Hal will keep him in one way or another.
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What I suspect the Yankees will do:

Vazquez - gone obviously
Pettite - would return I suspect
Rivera - Will return on the "Yankee lifetime reward contract"
Jeter - Same as Rivera but this one could turn out ugly - he did nothing after the break
Burnett - Will be back - too much money and they'd probably have to pay $40 or so of the $50 million left on his deal to move him
Wood - Will be back in some capacity, dunno if they're going to pick up an 11 million dollar option for a setup man

I think they'll give Nova a chance to win a rotation spot next year. I think they will sign Crawford. They would look like:

Jeter
Crawford
Teixeria
Rodriguez
Cano
Posada DH
Swisher
Montero
Granderson

Sabathia
Hughes
Pettite
Burnett
Nova

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Joba isn't here at the start of the 2011 season - be it in the minors or elsewhere
Nova really? Would you care to elaborate on that? He is a good starter. But from what I see anyway he is a little better then Dustin Moseley. If the Yankees need a starter if Burnett or Pettitte go down next year he'd be a good fill in guy. If the Yankees need a sixth starter he'd be a good fill in guy. But is he really ready to be our fifth starter? Cause I just don't see it.

If we don't get Lee you should rest assure we are making a trade for a good starter maybe from the NL.

Here's how it will likely be.

CC

Lee (Insert traded for pitcher here)

Pettitte

Burnett

Hughes

I have not seen enough of Nova to say he'd be a good fifth starter. And by the way I don't think I even want Crawford. Now, Werth on the other hand I'm interested in getting him.
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I can't wait to see the corpse of Posada catch for another 3 years.
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I can't wait to see the corpse of Posada catch for another 3 years.

He'd be the DH. Montero will be our catcher (Hopefully) if not him then probably Austin Romine.
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I have seen Joe Girardi for the last couple of months, especially in the postseason, and I don't know...I'm not saying he will leave and not come back (My guess is he will return), but I don't see him enjoying managing in New York. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not easy, and surely being Yankee manager must be stressful, but I just don't see him enjoying what he does. You see some managers, and even when they are in stress, you still see they are at least happy doing what they are doing. I don't get that feeling from Girardi. If he does come back (and I think he will), I don't see him sticking around for a long tenure. I just don't think he can emotionally and mentally handle it.
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I have seen Joe Girardi for the last couple of months, especially in the postseason, and I don't know...I'm not saying he will leave and not come back (My guess is he will return), but I don't see him enjoying managing in New York. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not easy, and surely being Yankee manager must be stressful, but I just don't see him enjoying what he does. You see some managers, and even when they are in stress, you still see they are at least happy doing what they are doing. I don't get that feeling from Girardi. If he does come back (and I think he will), I don't see him sticking around for a long tenure. I just don't think he can emotionally and mentally handle it.
I think I might just take this with a grain of salt no offense. I mean all managers can't react to stress as easily as others. Being a Manager is a stressful job. Are you implying he'd be happier with another team or are you just saying he's just not cut out to be a manager? Cause I really don't know if a change of environment will really change the way he handles stress.
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I think Girardi is definitely coming back. Management seem to like him and I see no reason to leave if you have a perennial title contender.

He may have wanted to "go home" to the Cubs but that's already off the table. Shocked the Cubs didn't wait for Girardi to hit the market tbh.
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I think I might just take this with a grain of salt no offense. I mean all managers can't react to stress as easily as others. Being a Manager is a stressful job. Are you implying he'd be happier with another team or are you just saying he's just not cut out to be a manager? Cause I really don't know if a change of environment will really change the way he handles stress.
When he was Marlins manager he didn't seem so stressed, so uptight. He was just doing his job and working with the young guys down there. He would smile, joke around with the young players, and he turned them from a losing team to an above .500 team. Now that he is in New York, he really seemed kind of...I don't know how to explain it. He seemed unhappy. Obviously managing in Florida isn't the same as New York, and the expectations were less. I read where he, last Tuesday, accepted that he had given thought to managing the Cubs, where there was an opening. So I just think that while he is a good manager, he's not cut out to manage in New York (emotionally and mentally).
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When he was Marlins manager he didn't seem so stressed, so uptight. He was just doing his job and working with the young guys down there. He would smile, joke around with the young players, and he turned them from a losing team to an above .500 team. Now that he is in New York, he really seemed kind of...I don't know how to explain it. He seemed unhappy. Obviously managing in Florida isn't the same as New York, and the expectations were less. I read where he, last Tuesday, accepted that he had given thought to managing the Cubs, where there was an opening. So I just think that while he is a good manager, he's not cut out to manage in New York (emotionally and mentally).
That may be true and I would love for the Cubs to actually win a World Series I'm starting to feel bad for them. They have the team to make it to the playoffs at least.

This is me just hoping he doesn't go because right now there are no options other then Giardi as Yankees Manager.
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I don't think he will leave right now (I'm almost 100% sure), but he won't have a long tenure, is all I'm trying to say. He's not gonna be there for 10 years or anything like that.
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I don't think he will leave right now (I'm almost 100% sure), but he won't have a long tenure, is all I'm trying to say. He's not gonna be there for 10 years or anything like that.
Yeah, I'm really not expecting a Joe Torre type run.
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Yeah, I'm really not expecting a Joe Torre type run.
I think that the Yankees have failed in terms of grooming Minor League Managers, or Major League Coaches, so they can one day manage at the Big League level, perhaps the same Yankees. Once Girardi is gone, it'll be interesting what happens.
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I think Girardi is definitely coming back. Management seem to like him and I see no reason to leave if you have a perennial title contender.

He may have wanted to "go home" to the Cubs but that's already off the table. Shocked the Cubs didn't wait for Girardi to hit the market tbh.
I must be out of it. Who did the Cubs go after for Manager?
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I must be out of it. Who did the Cubs go after for Manager?
Mike Quade got named as Manager. He was the one who took over after Pinella.
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