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Old 02-28-2011, 11:33 AM   #1
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Seems like the Mets' CF situation has been worked out way sooner than anybody expected. Carlos Beltran is moving to right field with Angel Pagan in center. Didn't think this would happen until Beltran got into a game or two.

Good on Carlos. I think he realizes that even if he is running well, Pagan is more equipped to play the position at this point.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:08 PM   #2
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Beltran might be one of the most underappreciated Mets ever. With the exception of 2005, he's consistently proven himself to be a great hitter when healthy. Dude hit fucking 41 jacks in '06, technically tying the team record but since everybody knows Hundley was on roids he was the only one to do it cleanly.

It's unfortunate that he's been hampered with injuries the last two years - but even then he showed flashes of brilliance pre-injury in '09 and in September last year. A lot of Mets fans have wanted to run him out of town for quite some time now and I just really don't get it.
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Beltran is on roids too.
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I thought roids didn't help
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They don't, but if you're going to accuse someone of using, accuse a guy who has a huge season out of nowhere...

...I don't know, like... JOSE BAUTISTA?
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I hope Beckett is okay, he got hit in the head with a batted ball yesterday and had "Concussion like symptoms"
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They sure helped Joey Votto win the MVP.
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Markakis, Guerrero and Jones hit HRs in the 1st off Andy Sonnastine in todays game vs the Rays.

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hmm...nice
Manny homered too! Yeah!
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Chris Carpenter tweaked his hamstring in his spring training game today.

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Mike Quade's gonna have the Cubs focused and playing winning team ball this year.
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Oh hey did you guys hear about Carlos Silva and Aramis Ramirez getting in a fight because Silva was pissed that the Cubs were making errors in a SPRING TRAINING game
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Oh hey did you guys hear about Carlos Silva and Aramis Ramirez getting in a fight because Silva was pissed that the Cubs were making errors in a SPRING TRAINING game
Yea I read that. Fucking ridiculous. I really don't think Lou Pinella nor Mike Quade have anything to do with the players.

Not to mention, if Ramirez doesn't like being called out for errors, he should'nt make them, and if he does, he should own up to it, spring training or not.
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Spring Training is the time to correct those little things that may not seem important. Better for it to happen in Spring, than midseason.

So I think it's ok.
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Pretty sure I saw Silva give up a BOMB before that so he has no right to talk.
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Pretty sure I saw Silva eat a barrel of gravy before that so he has no right to talk.
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Jesus Montero's odds of making the Opening Day roster just went up. Cervelli's out for at least a month. Montero is now the favorite to be the backup catcher to start the year with Romine also in the mix.

Don't really see the point in starting either guy's arbitration clock if they're only gonna play 1-2 games a week for 2-3 weeks or so. Unless they rake in spring and supplant Martin as the starter, they should probably just stick some veteran catcher onto the roster for that. Or they can just have Martin play basically every game with Posada as the emergency.
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Jesus Montero's odds of making the Opening Day roster just went up. Cervelli's out for at least a month. Montero is now the favorite to be the backup catcher to start the year with Romine also in the mix.

Don't really see the point in starting either guy's arbitration clock if they're only gonna play 1-2 games a week for 2-3 weeks or so. Unless they rake in spring and supplant Martin as the starter, they should probably just stick some veteran catcher onto the roster for that. Or they can just have Martin play basically every game with Posada as the emergency.
I didn't even realize how young Montero was. Honestly, I don't think Martin is going to be very much for them. He had a really good run from 06-08, but has declined the last two years, especially last year with the injurie(s).

If Montero is ready, and looking at his minor league numbers, he could be very close, I say run him out there and give him a shot. Arbritration doesn't mean to the Yankees what it does to other teams. If his bat gives them a better chance to win (which it should if Martin is his main competition), he deserves at least a 2 to 3 month test run.
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Don't really see the point in starting either guy's arbitration clock if they're only gonna play 1-2 games a week for 2-3 weeks or so. Unless they rake in spring and supplant Martin as the starter, they should probably just stick some veteran catcher onto the roster for that. Or they can just have Martin play basically every game with Posada as the emergency.
Considering that this is the Yankees we're talking about here, and since Montero is clearly in their long-term future plans, they'd be wise to lock him up for 6 years on arrival in the bigs, like the Rays did with Longoria.

Sure, there's some level of risk, but that's limited in this case - again, this is the Yankees we're talking about - but look at how many tens of millions such a move will have saved Tampa when all is said and done.
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Considering that this is the Yankees we're talking about here, and since Montero is clearly in their long-term future plans, they'd be wise to lock him up for 6 years on arrival in the bigs, like the Rays did with Longoria.

Sure, there's some level of risk, but that's limited in this case - again, this is the Yankees we're talking about - but look at how many tens of millions such a move will have saved Tampa when all is said and done.
While I agree on principle, I think Longoria was much more polished when he came up and the Rays really didn't have much other options at 3rd base.

Montero is two years younger than what Longoria was when he came up in 2008, so there shouldn't be a rush to get him up and sign him. Like I said, he probably gives them a better shot to win than Martin, so I'd like to see him get a chance.

But like you stated, this is the Yankees. They have deep pockets, and with all the payroll they have already, and Montero having yet to prove anything at this point, I don't see a need to rush and extend him, yet. Let him have one to three really good years, then lock him up when he's 24 or 25 years old for five to seven years. If they go that route, he'd be 32 by the time a seven year deal is done, and being a catcher who is scouted as to having questions about a long term future behind the plate, he could be hitting his regression years by then.
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We pretty much agree on the foundation that since it's the Yankees, money doesn't factor in. Me, I'm thinking that the Yankees ought to put their money where their mouth is.

I agree that there was less question about Longoria's MLB readiness than there is Montero's, but not by a wide margin. What's more, catcher is a much thinner position that corner infield.

Frankly, they'd be doing the lesser teams (all of them, really, but mostly the perennial bottom 2/3rd payroll) a service by taking care of their top prospect now. Paves the way in a big way for other teams to make such deals. From NYY's perspective, mutually beneficial even if it goes south from the team's perspective, but I've gotta tell you, this isn't gonna go south. Montero is worth every word of the hype, and this is coming from a die-hard Sox fan. This is the most they've protected a prospect in years, and for fantastic reason - he's that good.
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We pretty much agree on the foundation that since it's the Yankees, money doesn't factor in. Me, I'm thinking that the Yankees ought to put their money where their mouth is.

I agree that there was less question about Longoria's MLB readiness than there is Montero's, but not by a wide margin. What's more, catcher is a much thinner position that corner infield.

Frankly, they'd be doing the lesser teams (all of them, really, but mostly the perennial bottom 2/3rd payroll) a service by taking care of their top prospect now. Paves the way in a big way for other teams to make such deals. From NYY's perspective, mutually beneficial even if it goes south from the team's perspective, but I've gotta tell you, this isn't gonna go south. Montero is worth every word of the hype, and this is coming from a die-hard Sox fan. This is the most they've protected a prospect in years, and for fantastic reason - he's that good.
Oh I agree, he is that good...offensively. Like I said, there's a lot of question of whether he's going to stick longterm as a catcher, and as of right now, the scouting pundits are thinking not. So while catcher is thin, Montero isn't projecting as a catcher for the duration of his career. I've outfield, first base and DH. Now way he's moving Tex out of the way. DH is a good chance, and frankly, I think that cuts down his worth in the long run.

I really don't feel anything the Yankees do is beneficial to anyone sans themselves and elite players. When Derek Jeter got locked up as a young player, it was a 10 year deal. How, in any way, does that pave the way for other teams? What team would have/could have done the same? If anything, it tells players, like Longoria, who is better than Jeter was at the same age, that if they hold out, bigger dollar signs await. How would lesser teams benefit from this? I'm a Padres fan, and Mat Latos, bar none, is the very best player we have. He's going to be making big time money when he hits free agency. If a team, say the Giants, were to have given Linecum, a reason comp., and 5 year, $80mil dollar extension to buy his arbitration years and then some, I'd be willing to concede that Latos is a guarenteed goner.

The Yanks put their money where their mouth was in 2008, when they signed Burnett, Tex, and Sabathia. The won a WS for their "efforts" in 2009. I just don't see the rush in paying Montero. Especially when his future position is in such question. I get he is a legit prospect, which I agree with. But he's not worth locking up, yet. They should wait and see how he progresses on both sides of the ball before making any rash decisions.
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Oh look, it's time for John Kruk's annual insane stat prediction. This year he says Adrian Gonzalez will have 50 HRs and 50 doubles.

Does Kruk realize that that feat has only been accomplished ONCE in the history of baseball? He should beast and everything and might even win the MVP, but god damn.
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Does Kruk realize that that feat has only been accomplished ONCE in the history of baseball? He should beast and everything and might even win the MVP, but god damn.
A-Gonz could probably hit 60 HRS+ not having to play 1/2 a season in PETCO Park.
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0-0 tie...ugh

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A funny scene played out outside Ed Smith Stadium about 90 minutes before tonight's Yankees-Orioles game. A pristine gunmetal gray Mercedez with blinding chrome wheels pulled up to a private parking lot right across from the player's entrance. The young man driving the car asked a lady standing out fron if he could park there.

"Sure,'' she said. "Twenty dollars.''

"But this is Jeter's car,'' the young man, who was not Jeter, said. (Although a Yankee publicist confirmed Jeter drives a car fitting that description).

"Great,'' the lady said. "It's still twenty dollars.''

The young man drove off in search, presumably, of a cheaper parking spot. And the lady turned with a perplexed look on her face to an ESPNNewYork.com reporter who happened to be standing there. "Who's Jeter?,'' she asked.
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