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Old 12-08-2010, 10:18 PM   #81
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JBL is amazing. He only get heat from the IWC because he took the belt off Eddie who I never understood why people loved.

JBL is probably my favourite of all time and definitely part of my fav tag team : Acolytes/APA.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:53 PM   #82
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It's true. He's probably the best heel in the past 10 years but the IWC has a stick up their ass because he took the title from their roided out dead spic.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:54 PM   #83
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JBL is a fine wrestler. He's one of the great brawlers.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:55 PM   #84
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Don't you think you're trying a bit hard here, Gertner?
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:18 PM   #85
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In the past year or so, I've really began to doubt the allure of Randy Orton.

I can understand why people like him. He's edgier than Cena, has a great looking finisher, and sports "the look."
I suppose he's an interesting enough character, although I don't think his promos or feuds are too special. But I get it.

His matches, however, are very lacking. Especially main events. I really feel like he lacks the ability to get it done in the ring. Most of the time, he loses the crowd. I'm just really not feeling any story being told there, or level of excitement.
I will take Cena over Orton in a main event any day of the week. Strictly speaking from a match quality/storytelling perspective.

I really haven't enjoyed Orton in any big matches since Foley and Undertaker. Even with the likes of Shawn, HHH and Jericho he has underwhelmed me.
His matches with Barrett and Sheamus were snoozefests, and any success he's had in the ring with John Cena seems to be credited to Orton by the bitter fans, unfortunately.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:24 PM   #86
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Ok I have the perfect candidate for this thread:



Muhammad Hassan.

The guy had a fantastic look, had a great character which was relevant for the time, and the man played his role to perfection. The audience were solidly against him, the roster was against him, and there was even that TPWW In-Jo-ALEIYLEYAAAYLEIAAAAALAYAAAHAAAAYELALALLLAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Do not speak ill of Hassan.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:57 AM   #87
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I'm being serious.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:09 AM   #88
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It's true. He's probably the best heel in the past 10 years but the IWC has a stick up their ass because he took the title from their roided out dead spic.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:50 AM   #89
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As much as I love racial slurs this is bloody stupid.

But yeah, I liked JBL.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:36 AM   #90
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It's true. He's probably the best heel in the past 10 years but the IWC has a stick up their ass because he took the title from their roided out dead spic.
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I'm being serious.
well, you may have had a point...

many people here go nuts for dan bryan, and i don't really get it. he's ok, i like his little lebell lock, but outside of that he hasn't come close to amazing me.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:49 AM   #91
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In the past year or so, I've really began to doubt the allure of Randy Orton.

I can understand why people like him. He's edgier than Cena, has a great looking finisher, and sports "the look."
I suppose he's an interesting enough character, although I don't think his promos or feuds are too special. But I get it.

His matches, however, are very lacking. Especially main events. I really feel like he lacks the ability to get it done in the ring. Most of the time, he loses the crowd. I'm just really not feeling any story being told there, or level of excitement.
I will take Cena over Orton in a main event any day of the week. Strictly speaking from a match quality/storytelling perspective.

I really haven't enjoyed Orton in any big matches since Foley and Undertaker. Even with the likes of Shawn, HHH and Jericho he has underwhelmed me.
His matches with Barrett and Sheamus were snoozefests, and any success he's had in the ring with John Cena seems to be credited to Orton by the bitter fans, unfortunately.
This.

Also, Orton bores me and he's becoming like what Cena was like with his predictable match endings.

Irish Whip off the ropes
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Tense up and fall to the floor
Pound the ring with fists
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:50 AM   #92
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well, you may have had a point...

many people here go nuts for dan bryan, and i don't really get it. he's ok, i like his little lebell lock, but outside of that he hasn't come close to amazing me.
He hasn't been 'amazing' since signing with WWE but he has been very consistent. Nobody goes out and tears down the house 4 nights a week because you'll fall apart in no time but he's constantly having good matches, often the best on the card. Which, from a strictly in-ring point of view, is about as amazing as you will get from WWE because of the sheer exposure.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:55 AM   #93
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Does anyone remember his match against Jerry Lawler? Where his entire arsenal of moves consisted of a punch, kick and a bodyslam? Pretty sure he did something like five bobyslams in a row and the crowd were just hating it (in a boring way).
I really don't think we should be judging his prowess in the ring on the merits of a match he had against a retired old man.
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wow really? 19 and 0 at mania.
The highflying deadman.
He changed his person to a complete tool (american badass) and was still loved and adored by millions.
Has been involved in some of the most memorable matches in WWE history.
Umm... 19-0 at Wrestlemania is bullshit. He's scripted to win every year. The streak does NOT impress me, and I don't get how it impresses anyone.
Highflying? Walking the top rope while you hold someone's hand for support isn't exactly highflying.
The Backstreet Boys were loved and adored by millions. It didn't make them good.
Being involved in memorable matches doesn't mean much. Matches aren't always memorable for good reasons, and sometimes matches are memorable for good reasons in spite of the people in them.

Which is sort of the point of the thread, IIRC.

Just playing devil's advocate.
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:47 PM   #96
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Umm... 19-0 at Wrestlemania is bullshit. He's scripted to win every year.
And the rest of the industry isn't?
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This thread is ALL about Hulk Hogan. Became wrestling's #1 guy EVER without having any wrestling ability.
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Old 12-10-2010, 04:26 PM   #98
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This thread is ALL about Hulk Hogan. Became wrestling's #1 guy EVER without having any wrestling ability.
Hulk Hogan is the biggest joke in wrestling... I really dont know what the entire wrestling world saw in him... even back in his prime... he is just a bad wrestler... his mic skills a pretty damn good but so are mine and i dont have a bunch of ooTamaniacs all buying my merch......
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:05 PM   #100
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Dude, nobody cares about wrestling ability except indy smarks. Hogan was ridiculously over and from what I heard had some good matches in Japan. Why would he have to bust his ass in the ring when he didn't have to?
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:37 PM   #101
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Lol Vader is probably the best big man wrestler in history. Dumbfuck.
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