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Old 12-09-2010, 10:46 PM   #1
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Nexus: Just a bunch of pussies.

I dunno, they looked weak after crying to Wade Barrett to hire Cena back "because Cena keeps beating us up"

They first came on the scene, apparently to take over RAW. Then they had that weak Otunga led invasion on Smackdown!

I can't take Nexus seriously anymore. Now they're just your average stable. It wouldn't hurt to have them be booked like early nWo, but it's too late

Maybe it's PG related, I dunno.

What's next for them?






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Old 12-09-2010, 11:08 PM   #2
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The PG rating strikes again.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:13 PM   #3
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I'm not sure how much the "PG Rating" has to do with this, because when the NWO came in and got big, WCW wasn't "Attitude" or anything like that. It was PG.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:14 PM   #4
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Yeah, tell me how the strength of Nexus is in anyway related to a PG rating?
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:15 PM   #5
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This has been said before, but Nexus is not NWO or the Horsemen or Evolution. They are a group of rookies who win with their numbers, not skill. It wouldn't make sense for any of them except Barrett to go one on one with Cena and win and they know it.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:19 PM   #6
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This has been said before, but Nexus is not NWO or the Horsemen or Evolution. They are a group of rookies who win with their numbers, not skill. It wouldn't make sense for any of them except Barrett to go one on one with Cena and win and they know it.
So, none of 'em except Barrett can make it big on their own, right?

I mean, cause that's what I believe, except for McGuillicutty. Otunga at the beginning showed so much promise, but the dude, I don't know what happened to him. Everytime he talks, it seems like he's nervous or something, his voice comes out so low, he looks insecure, the whole bit. Plus, he's not the best wrestler. But I still thought he would be the star of the group. Not so.
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None of them have been pushed like they can make it on their own and they're all still pretty green. Remains to be seen who can pull his weight in a singles match.
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This has been said before, but Nexus is not NWO or the Horsemen or Evolution. They are a group of rookies who win with their numbers, not skill. It wouldn't make sense for any of them except Barrett to go one on one with Cena and win and they know it.
Hooray for logic!
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:32 PM   #9
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None of them have been pushed like they can make it on their own and they're all still pretty green. Remains to be seen who can pull his weight in a singles match.
I honestly think they need a veteran to be in the group (Triple H perhaps), to legitimize the group, and to make them look better.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:53 PM   #10
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This has been said before, but Nexus is not NWO or the Horsemen or Evolution. They are a group of rookies who win with their numbers, not skill. It wouldn't make sense for any of them except Barrett to go one on one with Cena and win and they know it.
The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.

It has nothing to do with PG, though. It has to do with the writing.
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:27 AM   #11
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I honestly think they need a veteran to be in the group (Triple H perhaps), to legitimize the group, and to make them look better.
That would destroy the point of the group, though. It started because they were unhappy with how they were treated on NXT. Having a veteran in there wouldn't make sense, because he wouldn't have the same motivation. And it could imply that someone told them to attack in the first place, which wouldn't make much sense given why they formed.

As thedamndest said, they're a group of rookies who rely on strength in numbers. Bringing on an established guy would show that they need more to accomplish what they want, which they don't. They do that just fine with what they have now.
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Old 12-10-2010, 02:05 AM   #13
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yeah they've pretty much fizzled out. i've finally accepted that this nexus business has run it's course.

obviously they'll still drag it out until wrestlemania
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I'm not sure how much the "PG Rating" has to do with this, because when the NWO came in and got big, WCW wasn't "Attitude" or anything like that. It was PG.
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The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.

It has nothing to do with PG, though. It has to do with the writing.
Precisely.

It would also be nice if they won matches from time to time.
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The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.

It has nothing to do with PG, though. It has to do with the writing.
exactly they have giving cena like 5 seven on one beat downs and now since he is fired and piss off they scare in there boots what the F*** is up with that
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Cena's attacks have only occurred when the Nexus is separated from the group. The logical thing is for the Nexus to always hang out together no matter what numbers they have at the time.

Cena waited until the group was at their weakest to do a hit and run attack. Wade was left untouched because Cena wanted to turn the tables on him. Nexus is being attacked but Wade isn't.

Getting Cena hired at least means he has to operate within the rules of the WWE. That means that the attacks mostly have to happen in the confines of a match and end when that match is over.

This was just the writer's way to make it believable that Wade would ever bring Cena back. Now it's the choice of Wade Barrett that either is he free of Nexus, or that Cena is hired. If you're not Nexus you're against us, so if Wade doesn't hire back Cena he could become the next victim of his own creation.
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Cena's attacks have only occurred when the Nexus is separated from the group. The logical thing is for the Nexus to always hang out together no matter what numbers they have at the time.

Cena waited until the group was at their weakest to do a hit and run attack. Wade was left untouched because Cena wanted to turn the tables on him. Nexus is being attacked but Wade isn't.

Getting Cena hired at least means he has to operate within the rules of the WWE. That means that the attacks mostly have to happen in the confines of a match and end when that match is over.

This was just the writer's way to make it believable that Wade would ever bring Cena back. Now it's the choice of Wade Barrett that either is he free of Nexus, or that Cena is hired. If you're not Nexus you're against us, so if Wade doesn't hire back Cena he could become the next victim of his own creation.

Except the whole thing about Cena being free to hit and run people in and around the arena/ring/backstage area while "not being a WWE employee" is fucking retarded. When you're fired your not generally allowed unfettered access to your former place of employment. The whole buying a ticket thingi s just stupid.
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Except the whole thing about Cena being free to hit and run people in and around the arena/ring/backstage area while "not being a WWE employee" is fucking retarded. When you're fired your not generally allowed unfettered access to your former place of employment. The whole buying a ticket thingi s just stupid.
It was explained that because the Nexus attacked the WWE when they weren't under contract (the first Raw) that it was fair game for others to do it on them. That they attacked WWE security and that WWE security didn't care about protecting them since they attacked em the first night out.
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Except the whole thing about Cena being free to hit and run people in and around the arena/ring/backstage area while "not being a WWE employee" is fucking retarded. When you're fired your not generally allowed unfettered access to your former place of employment. The whole buying a ticket thingi s just stupid.
I'm going to jump the barricade next week to attack Lawler. It'll be okay because I'll do it with my ticket in my hand.
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They have barely wrestled at all on Raw, when the new DLC pack comes out for SvR 2011 I will be excited to see what Otunga and Gabriel's movesets actually are.
Gabriel's will be Bourne's with his finisher changed.

Otunga's will be Funaki's with a shitty spinebuster as the finisher.
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I wonder what the post-Nexus future holds for everybody. The fact that Darren Young is still mulling around doing nothing on Superstars rather than going back to FCW leads me to believe that they don't want any Nexus members getting sent down. But if the group were to end, Raw's male roster is so much larger than SmackDown's since they have all 8 Season 1 rookies, 2 Season 2 rookies, and Alex Riley who still isn't officially considered a Raw superstar but may as well be.

Kinda hope they break them up so they won't always have to be associated with one another.
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The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.

It has nothing to do with PG, though. It has to do with the writing.
I don't think it's that big of a deal. They have taken down Cena once or twice, but even still Cena needs to be able to run through the group to keep it even or else it would result in some kind of Cena group forming. The Rock would regularly go through the McMahon-Helmsley Faction but it didn't really make them look weak. The individuals in the group were already established and did win matches though. I'm just saying that one man running through the group isn't too bad, but they do need to let them win matches.
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The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.
They should have at least tried.
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Except the whole thing about Cena being free to hit and run people in and around the arena/ring/backstage area while "not being a WWE employee" is fucking retarded. When you're fired your not generally allowed unfettered access to your former place of employment. The whole buying a ticket thingi s just stupid.
and another thing is why is someone allowed to play his theme music in the production truck
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I don't think it's that big of a deal. They have taken down Cena once or twice, but even still Cena needs to be able to run through the group to keep it even or else it would result in some kind of Cena group forming. The Rock would regularly go through the McMahon-Helmsley Faction but it didn't really make them look weak. The individuals in the group were already established and did win matches though. I'm just saying that one man running through the group isn't too bad, but they do need to let them win matches.
I agree. If they're going to do it, the attacked need to be established, or at least strong, so it doesn't hurt them. Not up-and-coming guys who need to look strong.
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anyone notice Cena sounding like Will Ferrell from Stepbrothers when he started talking about "activities"?

Another reason why Cena is lame. I give him credit for going out there night in and night out following the script that he's been given
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They should have at least tried.
I would have actually been more fine with it if they tried, failed, then demanded Barrett to enact the rehiring.

Not saying I would have approved of Cena going through them, but at least they would have had a reason, as it pertains to the entire group, to force Barret to rehire Cena.
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Nexus need to say "ass" on tv. Then I'll take them seriously.
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:48 PM   #34
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I think the biggest problem was how the storyline shifted from Nexus random attacks and WWE vs Nexus to Nexus vs just Cena as the only feud. It was great for Barrett since he was being built as a rival heel to Cena but the group itself got weaker while Cena got the upper hand all the time.

Before Cena, Nexus always talked about their goal as a group was stronger than being separate and there was some sort of "higher power" approving of their actions. They also gave a reason to their attacks as them feeling disrespected during NXT and kept emphasizing how the feud wasn't just about Cena (Cena was only attacked on the first night).

It is very similar to DX vs Spirit Squad feud where DX dominated too much and hurt the storyline and Spirit Squad as a believable force.
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Before Cena, Nexus always talked about their goal as a group was stronger than being separate and there was some sort of "higher power" approving of their actions.
Ugh. Yes. They talked about a "bigger picture" every week. Hasn't been mentioned in over a month now. Can't help but think that it's been dropped.
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One of the problems I've seen with NeXus is that WWE from the get-go had Barrett be the leader, and the other guys the followers, which in turn, made them look weak in comparison to Wade, because they have always been taking orders from him and stuff. The NWO, while it had guys that were folloewrs, never really had ONE leader giving orders...it was Nash, Hall and Hogan together wreaking havoc as a team, and then they started adding members and all that. Even when the NWO split into the "Black and White" and the "Wolfpac", neither of the two teams made any of its members look weak, they each had angles, as well as mic time. NeXus from the beginning has been something like "Wade Barrett and his men".
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But that's sort of why the Nexus guys are there. Wade Barrett won NXT Season 1, and from that he got a contract. But being the mastermind that he is, realised he could rally together the losers of that competition under the common ground that they were seen as bastard step-children, and probably won't get other shots. Barrett extending his offer to join him is why David Otunga, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Darren Young, Skip Sheffield, Daniel Bryan & Michael Tarver got jobs with the WWE in the first place. It's also why Michael McGillicutty and Husky Harris are on the main roster.

Sure, they can go out and do their own thing -- but they owe a certain something to Barrett -- who does look after them. He got David Otunga a run with the WWE Tag Team Championship, and then gave the belts to Slater & Gabriel on a platter. They have better resumes than he does.

I actually like the turn the story has taken. Cena has turned the Nexus into individuals, who fear for their own safety. Wade Barrett's "cause" now conflicts with their welfare, and that is a great, simple way to force Barrett to bring Cena back. Personally, though, I would like it if this is a bit of a trap for Cena. Nexus realised that Cena wasn't going to go away, so they staged their dissension, and Barrett rehires Cena, just for Nexus to jump him and obliterate him.

I'd like to see another Team Cena vs. Nexus match -- perhaps in War Games-style environment. Wade Barrett, David Otunga, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Michael McGillicutty & Husky Harris vs. John Cena, R-Truth, Darren Young, Michael Tarver and whoever else hates Nexus.
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The problem is that as a mob they can't take down Cena. As a mob, they have to beg for mercy.

That's where it gets sad and unrealistic. One midget may not be able to take down a hippopotamus, but when you have a mob of midgets, it's only a matter of time before one of them takes out the hippo's eye. Likewise, six guys should not be afraid of one wrestler, no matter how awesome he is made out to be.

That's my absolute biggest problem with the whole thing. I don't expect any one of them to be able to take down Cena, not even Barrett, but as a group? They damn well better, and they can't because they're huge pussies.

It has nothing to do with PG, though. It has to do with the writing.
Agreed.

As much as I'm anti-PG most of the time, I don't see it being the major problem with the Nexus storyline right now.
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But that's sort of why the Nexus guys are there. Wade Barrett won NXT Season 1, and from that he got a contract. But being the mastermind that he is, realised he could rally together the losers of that competition under the common ground that they were seen as bastard step-children, and probably won't get other shots. Barrett extending his offer to join him is why David Otunga, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Darren Young, Skip Sheffield, Daniel Bryan & Michael Tarver got jobs with the WWE in the first place.
I dunno, I sort of feel like they've changed directions so much with the whole "why are they here?" thing. I definitely remember a promo about 2 weeks after they first debuted (the night they all officially got contracts, I was there) - Barrett claimed that the Nexus had formed their bond a long time ago and that they'd have fun on NXT but regardless of what happened they'd make sure they all got contracts.

Then later on you have Barrett alluding to a "bigger picture" around SummerSlam and for quite some time after - leading me to believe someone else was pulling the strings, maybe giving them the idea before NXT started but I'm not sure.

And now that's all been ignored and now they are treating it like Barrett has been the mastermind all along, no more "bigger picture" and none of the "all for one and one for all" approach from when they first formed. I wish WWE were capable of picking one story and sticking with it.
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I always got the impression that the "bigger picture" was just a Nexus-dominated WWE.
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