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Old 12-13-2010, 08:32 PM   #1
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Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides
Captain Jack is back. In search of the Fountain of Youth.


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Old 12-13-2010, 08:39 PM   #2
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Fuck sake. Why is this still happening?

I know (because people keep paying to watch it). Why?
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:40 PM   #3
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:13 PM   #4
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I do not understand why this is such horrible news. They are fun movies, pretty good for what they are. Far worse popcorn flicks out there.

I appreciate modern cinema classics as much as the next person, but not everything has to be high art for me to enjoy it.

Maybe try not to take it so seriously.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:10 PM   #5
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I'm all for fun movies, but I also don't subscribe to the idea that just because something isn't high-end it has to be utter shit.

I think we had the same discussion in the Transformers thread, Figgy. I agree with the general idea.
I enjoyed the first Transformers movie, and the first 2 Pirates movies on that very principle. They were competent and fun.

But the third Pirates movie was garbage no matter what angle I look at it from. Pretty much the same way I felt about Transformers 2 in that other thread.
I'm all for good fun, but there are certain standards to me. I'm not willing to defend anything with good SFX and action up as a popcorn movie, because there are a lot of bad popcorn movies.

I just cannot enjoy a movie like Wolverine, no matter how much I love the character and a good time at the theatre.
Those same standards make me enjoy something like Iron Man or Star Trek way more, though.


Maybe this can be good, though. It probably will be if they keep it simple and take it back to basics. The reason the Pirates movies got progressively worse was because they tried to create this mythology and overall fabric that I just didn't buy.
I'd rather see these movies follow individual adventures and back off with trying to be a saga.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:27 PM   #6
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Im torn.

I love Ian McShane. but I dont think I can take this
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:30 PM   #7
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They just went and put zombies in it
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:42 PM   #8
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The third one was nowhere near as bad as TF 2, come on.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:47 PM   #9
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It was pretty awful
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Gonna love this.
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wait, i didn't see the last one. should i be outraged that will turner and elizabeth are not in it?
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i mean the characters obviously, since i am not openly lamenting the absence of orlando bloom.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:51 AM   #13
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I loved the first Pirates movie.

Somewhat less with the second one, and completely lost it with the third.

Basically the more "epic" they tried to make it, the more it failed. I'm with Jeritron.

The best parts of the movies were the "smaller scale" stuff. For instance, I enjoyed the swordfight between the three main characters in the second movie way more than I did the "epic" sea battles involving a bajillion ships and mythical creatures in the third.


That said, I will probably still watch this one. Just because. Might not do it in theaters unless I hear good things about it.
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yes but why are elizabeth and will and the rum gone?
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yes but why are elizabeth and will and the rum gone?
From a story standpoint, Will and Elizabeth are more or less wrapped up in Pirates 3. From a real world stand point, they didn't want to come back.
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Small tits and Legolas didn't want to be in it? Whatever at least Captain Jack is back!
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Part of why they got progressively worse is because the sequels kept Jack Sparrow rehashing many of his one-liners from the first movie.
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It's astonishing how often the things people hate about something are the same things people love about the same thing.
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I would have understood one throwback to the first movie. But it seemed like it was every other line.
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It was like that. Loved it.
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From a story standpoint, Will and Elizabeth are more or less wrapped up in Pirates 3. From a real world stand point, they didn't want to come back.
I felt really "gypped" by their ending. They all acted like it was a happy ending, but it totally wasn't a happy ending at all.
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Why not? They has family now.
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But they can only be reunited every 10 years, during which time she will age and he will not.
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Actually he's a free man after the first ten years. His father runs the ship now. Word of God says so.
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I don't know where they could possibly take the storyline. Although I didn't see the third one and my friend was screaming because his girlfriend was pregnant during most of the second one. It didn't seem like it was going anywhere regardless.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:35 PM   #28
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my friend was screaming because his girlfriend was pregnant during most of the second one.
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I went to the movie theater with him and his cell phone rang during the film. He made this purposely huge scene like some adolescent. Maybe he can take the kid to see the new one.
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They didn't have a kid though. Not really sure of the details of that situation.
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Actually he's a free man after the first ten years. His father runs the ship now. Word of God says so.
That's not what I took from it at all.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:58 PM   #32
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Not to me. Unless I rewatch it and somehow I missed something. Pretty sure I am correct though.
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You're correct and the director is wrong?
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I have not had any personal conversations with the director wherein he told me that I was wrong.
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Only seen the first two parts out of don't know how many there are, but they were meh. Don't really care about this.

Knowing the Oscars, Johnny Depp will probably win for this, despite having like 7000 better roles. Compensation is where Oscars at.
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I don't need to get bit by a shark to know it sucks.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:16 PM   #38
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I do not understand why this is such horrible news. They are fun movies, pretty good for what they are. Far worse popcorn flicks out there.

I appreciate modern cinema classics as much as the next person, but not everything has to be high art for me to enjoy it.

Maybe try not to take it so seriously.
Hang on, what are you talking about?

The first film is good fun, the second was total shit and the 3rd appears to be complete shit too from what I've caught of it on TV.

I don't even get what you are trying to say? Are you suggesting we don't criticise shit films for being shit? Are you saying that fun means there has to be a lack of quality? I've seen plenty of fun, easy to watch films that don't manage to be contrived, bloated and nonsensical like the POTC films are. In fact, I don't find bad films to be very fun, unless they're comically bad.

Who said anything about high art? What are you even talking about? I think you've genuinely made me wonder what your game is here.
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The second wasn't TOTAL shit. Had some elements of good stuff in it.
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You're correct and the director is wrong?
You were correct and the director was wrong when I (he) told you the new X-Men movie was a reboot, apparently. So why not?
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