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Old 01-26-2011, 12:13 AM   #1201
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Prolly just trying to steal focus from the Red Sox and Phillies. Notice how nobody's talked about them since Cashman opened his mouth.
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True. Or maybe they're just not getting along and Cashman's airing the dirty laundry? Either way it seems tense.
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Apparently the Red Sox tried to acquire Jose Bautista during the winter meetings, but an agreement was never reached which is what motivated them to sign Carl Crawford. I think the Red Sox are better off now, not that I'm opposed to the team having Bautista on the team, but having Bautista for possibly one season as opposed to Crawford for the next eight is no contest as to which makes them better off.
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Apparently the Red Sox tried to acquire Jose Bautista during the winter meetings, but an agreement was never reached which is what motivated them to sign Carl Crawford. I think the Red Sox are better off now, not that I'm opposed to the team having Bautista on the team, but having Bautista for possibly one season as opposed to Crawford for the next eight is no contest as to which makes them better off.
Crawford offers more value, in my opinion. He's a prototypical 2 hitter, and in that lineup and ballpark, is going to be dangerous. Bautista is a fluke as far as I'm concerned. if he goes out and hits another 30 HR while hitting around .250 I'll give him some more credit but one year does not equal a trend.

Back to the Yanks and Jetes...maybe Cashman is tired of being dragged around. he takes an awful lot of abuse in the media, and anytime the team doesn't win, it comes down to him with the blame. Though he should be held responsible to an extent, it's not as if he's the one out there playing.

Jeter at shortstop is horrendous. He has to be one of the most overrated defensive players in the last 10 years. The gold glove is a joke voted on by managers. If you're popular, as Jeter is around the league, then you will win the award.

I'm sure the COULD HAVE found a better option at short, but have chosen not to. That could come back to hurt them in the end. ARod should have been at short from day one. Fan backlash can piss off. ARod was by far the better player on both sides of the ball.

Oh well. I think Jeter will get moved to LF or RF by 2013 and the Yankees will have either traded for or signed a better defensive option.
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Yankees sign Bartolo Colon to minor league deal.

Really? Why are we picking up everyone who was good 12 years ago?
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because the Yankees wish they could go back and be as good as they were 12 years ago?
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Really? Why are we picking up everyone who was good 12 years ago?
SWB is gonna be fun to watch this season. Mark Prior, Bartolo Colon, Kei Igawa's last season................
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Might have to make a trip to Scranton this year.
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Hey, maybe the Yankees will sign Mike Hampton too.
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I hear Cashman is looking at Mo Vaughn.
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Forget Mo Vaughn, Julio Franco is the better option.
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Really? Why are we picking up everyone who was good 12 years ago?
Which one are you talking about? Jeter, Rivera, Pettitte, or Posada?
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Wow. Napoli couldn't even take his shoes off before A.A. flipped him.

But for Crazy Frank Francisco? Doesn't make sense.
The Jays bullpen going into this season had Jon Rauch and Octavio Dotel battling for the closer spot. Not good. Plus, our only consistent arms left via free agency(Downs) and the bullpen sucked to begin with. Napoli was just going to take time away from Arencibia.
 
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Could be even sooner considering the pitching pieces they still have. Ricky Romero, Brandon Morrow, Kyle Drabek (coming soon) etc. Not to mention, Arancibia looks like he's the guy this year, though he should've been getting Buck's ab's last September. They got a young shortstop who, if he changes his attitude, could blossom into a very good line drive hitter with solid d. It'll be interesting to see how the Jays do this year.
Hechivarra is a young ss in the wings as well. The Jays tops prospects are sooooo young though. Any sooner seems unrealistic,
 
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1 out of 4 ain't bad right?
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Hechivarra is a young ss in the wings as well. The Jays tops prospects are sooooo young though. Any sooner seems unrealistic,
We will see. I'm def. rooting for them. They can swing it. But like you said, the bullpen is a question and they need their young starters to emerge.
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Crawford offers more value, in my opinion. He's a prototypical 2 hitter, and in that lineup and ballpark, is going to be dangerous. Bautista is a fluke as far as I'm concerned. if he goes out and hits another 30 HR while hitting around .250 I'll give him some more credit but one year does not equal a trend.

Back to the Yanks and Jetes...maybe Cashman is tired of being dragged around. he takes an awful lot of abuse in the media, and anytime the team doesn't win, it comes down to him with the blame. Though he should be held responsible to an extent, it's not as if he's the one out there playing.

Jeter at shortstop is horrendous. He has to be one of the most overrated defensive players in the last 10 years. The gold glove is a joke voted on by managers. If you're popular, as Jeter is around the league, then you will win the award.

I'm sure the COULD HAVE found a better option at short, but have chosen not to. That could come back to hurt them in the end. ARod should have been at short from day one. Fan backlash can piss off. ARod was by far the better player on both sides of the ball.

Oh well. I think Jeter will get moved to LF or RF by 2013 and the Yankees will have either traded for or signed a better defensive option.
I'd rather give Nunez a shot. Eduardo Nunez was the kid who did a good job at third base while A-rod was out. I think A-rod got hurt and Nunez took third base. He is said to have high hopes at Shortstop and the Yankees have high hopes for him. He was kinda the differance maker in the Cliff Lee trade they asked for Montero AND Nunez and the Yankees said no. Now, had they caved and traded both of them Yankees may have gotten Cliff Lee last year.

It all depends on what happens the Yanks have gotten ourselves into a hole. They may need to make a Blockbuster trade at the deadline. And if they do and Nunez has to be traded then so be it. But , at this point I say we use him when/if Jeter moves to the outfield.

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I'd rather give Nunez a shot. Eduardo Nunez was the kid who did a good job at third base while A-rod was out. I think A-rod got hurt and Nunez took third base. He is said to have high hopes at Shortstop and the Yankees have high hopes for him. He was kinda the differance maker in the Cliff Lee trade they asked for Montero AND Nunez and the Yankees said no. Now, had they caved and traded both of them Yankees may have gotten Cliff Lee last year.

It all depends on what happens the Yanks have gotten ourselves into a hole. They may need to make a Blockbuster trade at the deadline. And if they do and Nunez has to be traded then so be it. But , at this point I say we use him when/if Jeter moves to the outfield.
Just looked up Nunez' minor league numbers. He's not very impressive. At all. Doesn't draw a ton of walks, has zero punch in his bat, and his OBP is very reliant on his batting average. I don't think he's the answer long term. He's only 23, and will be 24 this year, so there's a chance, but I don't think he's going to be anything more than a light-hitting utitlity guy at best.
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Just looked up Nunez' minor league numbers. He's not very impressive. At all. Doesn't draw a ton of walks, has zero punch in his bat, and his OBP is very reliant on his batting average. I don't think he's the answer long term. He's only 23, and will be 24 this year, so there's a chance, but I don't think he's going to be anything more than a light-hitting utitlity guy at best.
Granted, he may need some progress. And I'm just judging him from what his Major League appearance was. He was there for 30 games and he was pretty good for the injured A-rod. I wanna see what he can do in a full season instead of just 30 games. I don't think there's any short stop I really want. That's not gonna cost a fortune.

Andrus : He will never be traded I am pretty confident of that.

Hanley: As much as I like him and he's still young

I think different then you do. IMHO Ramiro Pena is a light hitting utility guy nothing more. It's not that I don't want a good shortstop it's just that good young short stops aren't very easy to come by. We have a few short stop choices. And Jeter won't be going to the out field this year and maybe not even next. I think in a couple of years he will be a suitable replacement. A lot of progress can happen in a few years. But, like I said if he and Ivan Nove and/or Montero need to be traded for a starter then so be it. I think we'd be fine with Sanchez and Romine. Sanchez I don't think is ready yet though. He's only like 19.
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A's are working on a trade with Seattle to aquire Chone Figgins for Kevin Kouzmanoff. A third team, possibly the Blue Jays might get involed as well.

Why would Oakland go after Figgins who had that fluke year in '09 and that big contract the M's gave him because of it?
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A's are working on a trade with Seattle to aquire Chone Figgins for Kevin Kouzmanoff. A third team, possibly the Blue Jays might get involed as well.

Why would Oakland go after Figgins who had that fluke year in '09 and that big contract the M's gave him because of it?
Because Billy Beane is one of the most overrated GMs in all of baseball and is constantly getting fleeced on trade deals?
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Granted, he may need some progress. And I'm just judging him from what his Major League appearance was. He was there for 30 games and he was pretty good for the injured A-rod. I wanna see what he can do in a full season instead of just 30 games. I don't think there's any short stop I really want. That's not gonna cost a fortune.

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Hanley: As much as I like him and he's still young

I think different then you do. IMHO Ramiro Pena is a light hitting utility guy nothing more. It's not that I don't want a good shortstop it's just that good young short stops aren't very easy to come by. We have a few short stop choices. And Jeter won't be going to the out field this year and maybe not even next. I think in a couple of years he will be a suitable replacement. A lot of progress can happen in a few years. But, like I said if he and Ivan Nove and/or Montero need to be traded for a starter then so be it. I think we'd be fine with Sanchez and Romine. Sanchez I don't think is ready yet though. He's only like 19.
You may think different, but the numbers are what they are for Nunez. He has very little punch in his bat. He's not a bad piece, but his minor stats haven't shown that he's particularly exceptional in any one area.

And he's turning 24, and has still yet to be given a chance at an everyday spot and it's likely he's not going to at this point. I don't think there's any faith behind him at all from Yankee brass. They'll get another shortstop through either trade or fee agency, but I HIGHLY doubt Nunez is the answer there, short term or long.

Pena and Nunez are pretty much the same type of player. Nunez has more speed and more pop (not saying much), but niether look like they're going to be anything more than what they are.

Yanks could, and will do a lot better when the time comes. Also, if the Mets don't resign Jose Reyes, I'm betting the Yankees are a top suitor.
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You may think different, but the numbers are what they are for Nunez. He has very little punch in his bat. He's not a bad piece, but his minor stats haven't shown that he's particularly exceptional in any one area.

And he's turning 24, and has still yet to be given a chance at an everyday spot and it's likely he's not going to at this point. I don't think there's any faith behind him at all from Yankee brass. They'll get another shortstop through either trade or fee agency, but I HIGHLY doubt Nunez is the answer there, short term or long.

Pena and Nunez are pretty much the same type of player. Nunez has more speed and more pop (not saying much), but niether look like they're going to be anything more than what they are.

Yanks could, and will do a lot better when the time comes. Also, if the Mets don't resign Jose Reyes, I'm betting the Yankees are a top suitor.
I don't mind Jose Reyes. I like Reyes. The main problem is why be so quick to move Jeter out there? Now, I am guessing by the time Jose Reyes is a free agent it's gonna be next year. Now, Gardner, Curtis, and Swish have been doing a good job in the Outfield in my personal opinion. So I am in no rush to get Jeter out there when they are doing a good job. You are probably right I just really prefer Home Grown talent.
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I don't mind Jose Reyes. I like Reyes. The main problem is why be so quick to move Jeter out there? Now, I am guessing by the time Jose Reyes is a free agent it's gonna be next year. Now, Gardner, Curtis, and Swish have been doing a good job in the Outfield in my personal opinion. So I am in no rush to get Jeter out there when they are doing a good job. You are probably right I just really prefer Home Grown talent.
I love homegrown talent but there are certain positions that are tough to get it right at, and shortstop is one of them.

If (bigIF) the Yankees somehow manage to sign Reyes, I'd say the writing is on the wall for Bret Gardner. He's a great player to have and fill a role, but if moving him out of left to slot Jeter there and bring in Reyes at short becomes an option, he's the odd man out.

The reason I'm so quick Jeter in the outfield is the cold hard fact that he is the worst defensive shortstop in baseball right now, and that he's not helping the Yankees playing a position he's no longer capable of playing. It is the Yankees' best interest to get him out of the position asap.
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I would cry if Reyes went to the Yankees.

That being said, if he goes back to his 2008 form he's going to want Crawford money, and Alderson doesn't seem like the type to spend a fuckload on one guy.
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Gold Glove, for all intents and purposes, is a joke. It's voted on by managers. It's not like an RBI or homerun title that is based on numbers.

I'm not saying he's terrible because I'm a Jeter hater. I'm saying he's terrible because he is.
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Albert Pujols will reject any trade the Cardinals might consider for him between now and the end of next season since he has a No-Trade clause.

He wants his mega-money deal either from the Cardinals or another team if he becomes a free agent. Cardinals can only get 2 draft picks should he leave unless he breaks the no-trade clause.
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I doubt he breaks it. Honestly, there are not a whole lot of teams that are going to be able to dole out the type of deal Albert is worth. Realistically, the Cardinals are not one of those teams, but they almost have to sign him.
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I think the Cards are gonna have to sign him. Problem is can they do it for A-rod money? Maybe Pujols would take a pay cut and year cut so he could stay on the Cards. All though I don't expect a 10 year contract . I expect maybe 7 or 8 year contract.
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I can't see the Cardinals not signing Pujols...somehow they will. He just means so much to the team, to the St Louis area, etc.
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The problem with signing Pujols is that the Cards are not a large market team, and giving $25 to $30mil to a team that, realistically, is going to be sitting around $80mil per year, and already owes Matt Holiday a boat load of money, is really going to handcuff them down the line.

The only way I see it working is if Albert accepts a deal similar to Ichiro's in Seattle, where Ichiro will be getting paid long after his contract is up.
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