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Old 01-31-2011, 12:28 AM   #1081
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:28 AM   #1082
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Del Rio is tremendous. It's clear that he's a natural on the mic, though he hasn't been booked to play anything but the egotistical son of a bitch. Clearly he could accomplish a fantastic promo if given the opportunity.
Clearly there is something lodged in your brain Tb1. I mean why else would you like Del Rio?
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:29 AM   #1083
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Do any of you think Del Rio really *win* to go to the main event at WM? If he does, it will be against Edge. From the RAW roster, it will either be Orton or Cena... regardless of what happened at the RR.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:32 AM   #1084
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There are multiple main events for Wrestlemania, what you are talking about is the last match.

I doubt Alberto will be in the final match at WrestleMania though.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:32 AM   #1085
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I can honestly see them having Christian beat him for the title match thanks to Mysterio interference or w/e and we get Edge/Christian for the title and the final battle between Mysterio/Del Rio. Raw is going to be a clusterfuck because you have 4-5 guys who could easily be involved: Orton/Cena/Punk/Miz/Diesel
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:32 AM   #1086
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He's awesome because it's my opinion that he's awesome. I dunno why that is so hard to understand or why it means I'm stupid or something as Jabba seems to think.
You don't base your opinions on anything? You're right, I don't understand that.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:37 AM   #1087
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:37 AM   #1088
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I'm not sure I understand the resentment here. Guy can obviously go in the ring, I don't think that's being disputed. He can obviously talk better than a good chunk of the roster, and he's young/fresh/has a ton of promise. What's the problem again?
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:39 AM   #1089
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You don't base your opinions on anything? You're right, I don't understand that.
I've basically already said why I liked him in a post where I quoted Skippord.

You clearly have different criteria for what you call entertaining. To me, a guy who oozes charisma (in my opinion), a guy who makes a cliche gimmick work for him instead of against him (in my opinion), a guy who is one of the best Mexican/AAA wrestlers of the past decade (in my opinion), a guy with a heritage and family of great wrestlers (in my opinion), a guy who is confident on the mic (in my opinion) is entertaining.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:40 AM   #1090
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:40 AM   #1091
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I should rephrase what I said earlier. I like Del Rio, I'd have just preferred someone else winning the Rumble.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:40 AM   #1092
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:41 AM   #1093
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I'm not sure I understand the resentment here. Guy can obviously go in the ring, I don't think that's being disputed. He can obviously talk better than a good chunk of the roster, and he's young/fresh/has a ton of promise. What's the problem again?
I love AL, but I think he looks for more depth in guys he likes and their promos. Which is fine, I guess I'm just a more shallow wrestling fan.
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Del Rio will probably have the most absurd over the top entrance at WrestleMania though.
i was thinkin maybe he would enter in a helicopter, or a stealth bomber, lol
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:42 AM   #1095
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He's not a bad in-ring worker, by any means. I just have a problem with his god-awful blandness on the mic.
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He still got a decent reaction. I was just laughing because Gertner claimed jTG was more over than DB
oh yea im not arguing that. JTG is over when he is on superstars. i will concede that argument to bryan. just thought it was funny in a situation where its face v heel, the heel out chanted the face.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:43 AM   #1097
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I've basically already said why I liked him in a post where I quoted Skippord.

You clearly have different criteria for what you call entertaining. To me, a guy who oozes charisma (in my opinion), a guy who makes a cliche gimmick work for him instead of against him (in my opinion), a guy who is one of the best Mexican/AAA wrestlers of the past decade (in my opinion), a guy with a heritage and family of great wrestlers (in my opinion), a guy who is confident on the mic (in my opinion) is entertaining.

Starting to wonder if you know what the word "opinion" means.
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There are multiple main events for Wrestlemania, what you are talking about is the last match.

I doubt Alberto will be in the final match at WrestleMania though.
this is true, Edge v Jericho happened like half way through mania last year. and it wasnt even a title match in the main event. granted it was one of the biggest matches of all time
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:47 AM   #1099
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I love AL, but I think he looks for more depth in guys he likes and their promos. Which is fine, I guess I'm just a more shallow wrestling fan.
I like guys who have depth. And I like character.

Del Rio is not a bad wrestler. But he's nothing amazing.

Del Rio is not cringe-worthy on the mic. But he is not "a natural".

He has a stupid, generic gimmick and his career has consisted of telling Rey Mysterio he is short.

As an overall performer, he is simply uninteresting.
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I've basically already said why I liked him in a post where I quoted Skippord.

You clearly have different criteria for what you call entertaining. To me, a guy who oozes charisma (in my opinion), a guy who makes a cliche gimmick work for him instead of against him (in my opinion), a guy who is one of the best Mexican/AAA wrestlers of the past decade (in my opinion), a guy with a heritage and family of great wrestlers (in my opinion), a guy who is confident on the mic (in my opinion) is entertaining.
i have seen quite a few of his matches as Dos Caras JR. and he was even more impressive there. he was actually a high flying luchadore, which im sure u know, but im guessing alot of these people who are negative havent seen any of these. i am guessing they think he is some rookie who is green, not knowing he has traveled the world, and wrestled all over to become fluent in the ring. but everyone is entitled to their opinion, and i respect that, but as far as immediate impact and breaking through the glass ceiling goes, there has been no one like him.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:48 AM   #1101
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I'm not sure I understand the resentment here. Guy can obviously go in the ring, I don't think that's being disputed. He can obviously talk better than a good chunk of the roster, and he's young/fresh/has a ton of promise. What's the problem again?
He has only been in WWE for 6 months and people were holding out hoped for the traditional guard of "upper midcarders" such as Morrison (who can't talk), Christian, etc. I am not a mark for Del Rio but he is very good and he will make whatever he is in work. I am interested to see where everything goes because RAW is a clusterfuck and Edge vs Del Rio doesn't feel like a WrestleMania main event. Of course, 8 weeks of build and I'll probably be blowing 60 bucks like a crack whore. Elimination Chamber has 3 weeks build and could be very interesting since it is now the detour on the Road to WrestleMania.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:49 AM   #1102
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He's not a bad in-ring worker, by any means. I just have a problem with his god-awful blandness on the mic.
I guess you and Juan just disagree on him being bland on the mic. He's been one of the top promo guys on Smackdown for the last months. Even the World champion Edge has been pretty boring on the mic in that length of time. Other than Kanes Championship promos I don't think anybody has been more impressive in a short period of time than Alberto Del Rio.

It may be that what he says is some what simplistic but sometimes it is good to be short and sweet.

You're also missing the 2nd part of Del Rio: he does most of his talking in the ring and hires Ricardo Rodriquez to say it all in spanish.

Here is what Ricardo says in English:

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/smackd...oductions.html
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Del Rio is not cringe-worthy on the mic..
That's exactly how I describe his mic work.
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oh yea im not arguing that. JTG is over when he is on superstars. i will concede that argument to bryan. just thought it was funny in a situation where its face v heel, the heel out chanted the face.

It's less to do with a heel and more to do with it being CM Punk!
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That's exactly how I describe his mic work.

He tends to make me roll my eyes and zone out. But then, I've seen "Abe's Tomb" about ten times, so I've built up a tolerance to bad line delivery.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:53 AM   #1106
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:53 AM   #1107
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Once again, Del Rio has only been in WWE for 6 months so he hasn't had a lot of chances to cut "epic promos" or whatever. I imagine that will soon change.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:53 AM   #1108
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I like Del Rio fine but there's 2 other heels who are way more over then him and could have won convincingly, Punk and Barrett. That being said he was my 3rd guy so I'm not pissed or anything.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:58 AM   #1109
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They're trying to make new stars and this is their way of catapulting a new one but at the same time Del Rio hasn't really been around long enough to have that much credibility whereas guys like Punk and Orton do and having him win it entering so late into the match doesn't help matters but anywho he's great in the ring but he's good enough on the mic I suppose.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:58 AM   #1110
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Can someone please show me a specific example of Del Rio being 'amazing' on the mic? I keep hearing all this talk about how good he is, but so far all I've seen is some pretty generic cocky-heel stuff.

When I think of a 'natural' on the mic, I think of someone like Jericho, or Foley, or even Flair back when you could understand what the hell he was saying. Someone who actually has something to say every time he comes out. Del Rio's promos have so far been pretty insubstantial, just "ha-ha, I'm going to ween because I am better than joo!" over and over again.

He's not bad, but I don't see what everyone's getting so worked up about.
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Go back to the C-fed forum Jabba.
Your contribution to the discussion is appreciated.

I'd tell you to go back somewhere, but I don't know who you are.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:14 AM   #1117
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del rio won because wwe is trying to recapture its hispanic demographic.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:20 AM   #1118
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That doesn't make a lot of sense because they would have chosen a face Mexican if that was their goal. Del Rio had to come out with Dos Caras Sr. to get a pop in Mexico during their tour.
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That doesn't make a lot of sense because they would have chosen a face Mexican if that was their goal. Del Rio had to come out with Dos Caras Sr. to get a pop in Mexico during their tour.
Are you saying Mexicans are too dumb to appreciate villains?
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