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View Poll Results: Who was outside Undertakers Cabin on the latest vignette?
Sting 14 45.16%
Triple H 5 16.13%
HBK 2 6.45%
Kane 1 3.23%
Ryan Clark to greet Undertaker 9 29.03%
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:58 PM   #321
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HBK did the Taker impersonation once in like 97 and he's 6'1 or something.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:00 PM   #322
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I love all the speculation, but it's pretty obvious that on 2-21-11 it will be "SHOWTIME!"
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:05 PM   #323
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Ok guys its not Sting...

1. One thing about guys who come to WWE who were once famous in WCW is that they always have to job to Triple H. Goldberg, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Hogan, Nash, Flair... I know if I think there is probably another one in there. I think Sting should try and stay away from that list.

2.If Sting signs with WWE, his legacy lies in the hands of a guy he said he would never work for. If he truly wants to go work for Vince McMahon, he is taking a risk.

3.If Sting were to wrestle at the biggest show of the year, it would no doubt be against The Undertaker. The Undertaker will never lose at Wrestlemania. Is this the way Sting should make his debut?

4.Sting is 51 years old. Does he really want to take such a huge risk in his career at this point? In wrestling, anything is possible. However, I don't see Sting agreeing to any kind of full-time schedule. However, if Jerry Lawler and Ric Flair can do it, I know Sting can.

5.I don't know Sting, but he seems like a pretty respectable guy. Does he really want to go against his word and join WWE? He said in an interview years ago that he would never join.

6.If you look at the history between WWE and other legends, one thing seems to always come in the way: money. Hulk Hogan turned down huge money to appear at Wrestlemania 20, 23 and 25 because it just wasn't enough for The Hulkster. If Vince McMahon would somehow low-ball the biggest draw in wrestling history, how much money would he be willing to hand out to Sting?

7.If there was any time to bring Sting into WWE, it would have been when WCW was purchased. Why the hell didn't Vince McMahon just splurge a little and bring the right talent in to make the storyline and brand work? Oh yeah, The XFL. The ship has sailed. These 2-21-2011 things are obviously The Undertaker, so don't get your hopes up.

8.If this were to be done before Wrestlemania, the ice would've been shattered on this story already. There is not enough time to truly build a program for Wrestlemania at this point. I could see something immediately after Mania to help the yearly post-Wrestlemania lull, but it is highly unlikely.

9.This is the most simple reason: WWE has zero interest in Sting. I really think that if Vince wanted to bring Sting in that bad, it would've happened a long time ago. Money talks and Sting would listen. With the current youth movement, Sting wouldn't quite fit into the WWE mold. He would provide us old school fans with some amazing moments and nostalgia, but this isn't what WWE really wants to do at this point. In conclusion, I hope I am wrong on all fronts here. As a loyal, old school wrestling fan, I'd love to see Sting finish his career the right way inside the WWE squared circle
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2.If Sting signs with WWE, his legacy lies in the hands of a guy he said he would never work for. If he truly wants to go work for Vince McMahon, he is taking a risk.

His legacy already lies in the hands of Vince. What do you think, people are going to know him for his TNA matches in 20 years?
Vince owns the WCW tape library and is the first and last word in mainstream wrestling media.
Whatever someone knows about Sting in 20 years is going to be through WWE. If WWE doesn't want to promote him, they won't. Just ask Randy Savage.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:09 PM   #325
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Think there is quite the height difference between them though.
I did think of that and that's just another reason why it probably won't happen. Although I'm sure if the arena was dark enough it'd be a bit hard to tell the height of the shadowy figure walking to the ring.
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I don't wanna go through this whole thread even though I'm sure the discussion is compelling, but I didn't know if any of you fucksuckers had seen this vid

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Again, I in no way am insisting that it's still Sting, but why are people refusing to wrap their mind around the concept that Undertaker returning and Sting debuting couldn't happen on the same show and be related to one another?
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Such a grand and impossible idea that the vignettes lead to Sting physically digging Undertaker up.
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I see the video has already been posted. YAY!
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His legacy already lies in the hands of Vince. What do you think, people are going to know him for his TNA matches in 20 years?
Vince owns the WCW tape library and is the first and last word in mainstream wrestling media.
Whatever someone knows about Sting in 20 years is going to be through WWE. If WWE doesn't want to promote him, they won't. Just ask Randy Savage.
....Sting owns Sting... why do you think WWE has not put out anything with sting in it?
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.................and Vince owns all the evidence that Sting ever existed..................
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Thats true but Vince can not touch any part of WCW with sting on, in, or involved with it. I would not rule out a Legends Contract with WWE. The production of action figures, DVDs and induction into the Hall of Fame are just a few benefits that both parties could receive with some kind of but as far as a full or part time wrestling agreement.... I just dont see it happening.
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I don't wanna go through this whole thread even though I'm sure the discussion is compelling, but I didn't know if any of you fucksuckers had seen this vid

This is what bugs me, we have the 2/21/11 video and then we have this one which is telling everyone that Undertaker is returning. If they are hyping the 2/21/11 then why release this raw one saying Undertaker will return?.

Because the 2/21/11 is not Undertaker yes he will return on this date, but someone else is also making an appearance. Think about it what reason does Undertaker have being on Raw?. Their is Nexus yes we sure don't want to see another Taker vs Kane mania match..

Now let's think about this TNA take Sting down from the Roster right after the 2nd teaser for 2/21/11 was brought out. Why take it down then?.

I know Sting has said he'd never work for Vince but Bret Hart also said he'd never return to the company again after what happened. But look what did happen Bret returned and made peace with both Vince and HBK!!!..

Another thing which has questioned this has been the music played in the recent promo by Johnny Cash, It's been played before in one of Undertakers videos. It doesn't really mean it could be Undertaker returning. (Undertaker has already been slated to return on this date.)

WWE Have used the same music more than once in other promo's look back as far as 1997. or towards the attitude era. I also remembered hearing that Sting also liked Johnny Cash, and maybe this was the choice..
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It is so obviously The Undertaker, god your fucking stupid.
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It is so obviously The Undertaker, god your fucking stupid.
And so the fuck are you, you cunt. Seriously wait and see.
Then I can fucking rub this shit in your damned face.
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Thats true but Vince can not touch any part of WCW with sting on, in, or involved with it. I would not rule out a Legends Contract with WWE. The production of action figures, DVDs and induction into the Hall of Fame are just a few benefits that both parties could receive with some kind of but as far as a full or part time wrestling agreement.... I just dont see it happening.



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I'm pretty sure Sting matches have been on dvds the WWE sells
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Pretty prominent placement for a guy they're not allowed to market.
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can't really tell who's behind the makeup

easily could've been a Sting clone

probably the guy who played Cobra back in the day
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IT IS GOING TO BE THIS MAN... (not Triple H)



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....Sting owns Sting... why do you think WWE has not put out anything with sting in it?
Because he worked for the "competition" maybe?
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As far as the music goes, I haven't even considered the fact that it was used before for a Taker promo - as somebody said, they reuse music all the tme. It's the words that stand out to me.

"No grave can hold me" or words to that effect. Funny that last time we saw Taker he was buried alive...in a grave.

That's not to say that I think it wil definately be Taker. In fact I think it's an awful way to do it tbh.
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Also, why would Sting be digging Taker out of the grave? And how would it lead to a fued between the two?
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Well, as proven above, they've put out a lot of stuff with sting in it over the years, despite him being the top wrestler of their competition.

That to me, shows a great deal of respect, and should put a stop to any arguements of him not being used right.

I believe you literally can't misuse Sting at this point. He's way too big of an icon. Yeah, people like Booker T and DDP were misused, but who the fuck were they? By the time they were main event, WCW was a joke.

Sting is a living legend. Even if they tried to bury him(which they aren't stupid enough to do), the fans wouldn't buy it at all.

Any talk of WWE misusing him is nonsense to me. I know WWE has become this entertainment thing, as far from traditional wrestling as you can get, outside of comedy promotions. But I believe vince still has enough respect for what came before, to give sting the proper treatment.
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:56 AM   #348
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So I heard It's gonna be Sting.

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Old 02-09-2011, 08:32 AM   #349
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I would think that if Sting wasn't coming to the WWE, that he'd mention that to someone with all the rumors going around.

Sting just doesn't fit in TNA atm. He doesn't like that edgyness that TNA has turned into as it's exactly why he didn't go to the WWF/E.

Now WWE is PG and he can sell merchandise and be on a legends contract while pushing his wrestling school to have closer ties to WWE.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:54 AM   #350
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:57 AM   #351
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Look closely at how the feet in the video's are slightly turned out and the sheer size of the entertaining back under that jacket.
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Well, as proven above, they've put out a lot of stuff with sting in it over the years, despite him being the top wrestler of their competition.

That to me, shows a great deal of respect, and should put a stop to any arguements of him not being used right.

I believe you literally can't misuse Sting at this point. He's way too big of an icon. Yeah, people like Booker T and DDP were misused, but who the fuck were they? By the time they were main event, WCW was a joke.

Sting is a living legend. Even if they tried to bury him(which they aren't stupid enough to do), the fans wouldn't buy it at all.

Any talk of WWE misusing him is nonsense to me. I know WWE has become this entertainment thing, as far from traditional wrestling as you can get, outside of comedy promotions. But I believe vince still has enough respect for what came before, to give sting the proper treatment.
yeah i see him going to wwe, jr and the wwe have been talking for the last 3 years of putting him in the hall. i don't think he will wrestle in wrestlemania though, he could be a guest ref or the guest host. someway he screws taker so the next ppv he and taker can fued.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:40 PM   #353
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5.I don't know Sting, but he seems like a pretty respectable guy. Does he really want to go against his word and join WWE? He said in an interview years ago that he would never join.
A Guy Named Bret Hart said something similar when he was screwed by vince. 13 years later, well i'm sure you already know the story. But Still Think It Will Be The Undertaker.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:53 PM   #354
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Another thing which has questioned this has been the music played in the recent promo by Johnny Cash, It's been played before in one of Undertakers videos. It doesn't really mean it could be Undertaker returning. (Undertaker has already been slated to return on this date.)
They put it there because they did a Taker hype video on 1/31 and everybody went nuts saying "OMG IT'S STING! OMGOMGOMG!"

Since they don't have Sting, they needed to put something that was more obviously 'Taker in this week's promo so that people won't boo him when he shows up on the 21st because "YOU PROMISED US STING AND IT'S NOT STING!"

Smart move on WWE's part to give us something that is so clearly 'Taker, yet ambiguous enough that people think it might not be him so they continue to create intrigue going into the 21st.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:54 PM   #355
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Its obviously one of two guys ...... its either Seven's WWE debut (2+2+1+1+1) or the Kiss Demon. these two guys can be the only true payoffs worth all of this hype.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:02 PM   #356
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2.If Sting signs with WWE, his legacy lies in the hands of a guy he said he would never work for. If he truly wants to go work for Vince McMahon, he is taking a risk.

3.If Sting were to wrestle at the biggest show of the year, it would no doubt be against The Undertaker. The Undertaker will never lose at Wrestlemania. Is this the way Sting should make his debut?

4.Sting is 51 years old. Does he really want to take such a huge risk in his career at this point? In wrestling, anything is possible. However, I don't see Sting agreeing to any kind of full-time schedule. However, if Jerry Lawler and Ric Flair can do it, I know Sting can.


6.If you look at the history between WWE and other legends, one thing seems to always come in the way: money. Hulk Hogan turned down huge money to appear at Wrestlemania 20, 23 and 25 because it just wasn't enough for The Hulkster. If Vince McMahon would somehow low-ball the biggest draw in wrestling history, how much money would he be willing to hand out to Sting?

Like Jeritron pointed out,theres plenty of Sting stuff on dvds, there was even a 3 dvd set planned with a release date last year that got aborted in the hopes of signing him and having him feature on it.

He would have to lose to the Undertaker on his debut....you realise its worked right? A guy can lose and still look strong, HBK did it twice.

Sting wouldnt work a fulltime schedule. If hes working tv/ppvs and the occasional house show for TNA, and im sure he lives near the studios, and getting paid a reported $500k a year then Vince is gonna give a deal to match that as best he can.

And yeah Hogan gets offered millions every year to make a return a Wrestlemania, hes on Bubba the love sponge every year telling him
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fuck all you faggots

Sting & The Undertaker vs. Kane & Wade Barrett

It's a win/win situation. Taker keeps his streak, and Sting gets a victory at WrestleMania

The whole thing about Sting not wanting to work for Vince is garbage. Didn't Bret Hart come back for WrestleMania 26. I DUNNO

If it's not Sting, I will quit TPWW forever
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:13 PM   #358
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I doubt it’s The Undertaker. If it was him, why do they need such mystery?

Something in this screams swerve, you see the boots, the coat. Yet, they won’t show anything but the knees down.
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