2-21-11

[loopydate]

Originally Posted by Rated R Classic I doubt it’s The Undertaker. If it was him, why do they need such mystery?

It's got us talking.

[Eklipse]

How can anyone really still have any doubts that it's Undertaker?
What do they have to do?
Play his intro music?
Seriously...

[Jura]

Okay what if it doesn't turn out to be him? Will you eat a Sprite can?

[Juan]

I don't see how anyone can be certain one way or another about who the promos are for. Some people seem really convinced.

[Lock Jaw]

It is quite easy to be convinced that it is Undertaker, because it quite obviously is The Undertaker.

Can't understand the people who think that is obviously is NOT Taker because Taker doesn't need hype. That logic seems to fail on me.

[ooTin]

Originally Posted by The Naitch fuck all you faggots Sting & The Undertaker vs. Kane & Wade Barrett It's a win/win situation. Taker keeps his streak, and Sting gets a victory at WrestleMania The whole thing about Sting not wanting to work for Vince is garbage. Didn't Bret Hart come back for WrestleMania 26. I DUNNO If it's not Sting, I will quit TPWW forever

No you wont you lying sack of crap lol

[thebladejob.com]

With all the buzz surrounding the 2.21.11 Promo that aired on Raw there has been rampant speculation on the internet about who the “man in the rain coat seeking shelter from a monsoon in a secluded desert shack” could be. The possible candidates, for the most part, have been narrowed down to two. The safe bet is a returning Undertaker while the long-shot is a debuting Sting. More likely than not the “anonymous wet desert dweller” will turn out to be the Deadman returning from the grave yet again. But what if it turned out to be the more far fetched choice of the Stinger? What would that mean to the wrestling world?

TNA could have lost its Icon for good
No wrestler in the history of TNA has been more important than Sting. There could possibly be arguments made for Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, or Jeff Jarrett but the statistics would quickly silence them. He is called TNA’s Icon for a reason. Nobody has enjoyed a more consistent run in the company’s main event scene than the Stinger. Out of the six Bound For Glory mega Pay-Per-Views TNA has produced Sting has main evented four. When a promotion puts on its most important show it turns to its most important star. In addition to being a 3x (NWA)TNA World Heavyweight Champion, Sting has helped make new stars in TNA for example: AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and Matt Morgan. Perhaps more important than that, Sting has a recognizable face to a wide range of fans including the casual fans that does not watch as frequently as they did in the 80s and 90s. But when they flip on Spike TV looking for a marathon of UFC Unleashed or 1,000 Ways to Die and they catch a glimpse of Sting’s painted mug they’ll stay and watch for a while because it conjures up memories of their childhood where it was okay to watch pro wrestling. In order for TNA to attract fans their audience has to give a shit about your characters so their willing to invest they’re time into your TV show and money to your live events and Pay-Per-Views. Sting is someone that the fans care about. If Sting has signed a deal with WWE or does in the future it will probably close the door on a return to TNA. A WWE deal complete with a nice salary and Wrestlemania bonus would probably land the Icon enough cash to hang up his black boots for good. It also would allow him the chance to go out like a legend should, on top.

Wrestlemania 27 Gets a boost of interest
Let’s face it this year’s ‘Mania lineup is lacking a definite “it” factor. While the tentative card seems to consist of some interesting match-ups, it does not yet have the feel of the biggest show of the year. Wrestlemania has a spectacular lure associated with it, but it’s not supported by the proposed plans. However, if Sting is thrown into the mix (a WCW legend in the defunct organization’s former capital city of Atlanta Georgia) then WWE would be onto something special. Wrestling fans have waited for Sting to make the jump up north since he made his name in the NWA almost a quarter century ago. There was a long stretch where it looked like there was zero chance the Stinger would ever cross the line into WWE territory. But now it seems like the planets have aligned and there is a small seemingly perfect sized window for both Vince McMahon and Steve Borden to capitalize. His arrival would bring up so many burning questions. Questions that can only be answered by watching hours of WWE programming. Questions like: why did he come? who would he face at his first ever Wrestlemania? Does he still have what it takes to perform on a grand stage?

Sting cements his legacy
Barring an utterly embarrassing performance at Wrestlemania 27, a high profile appearance at the “Grandaddy of’em All” would assure Sting a spot on the elite list of wrestling’s all time greats. Right now Sting’s credentials qualify him for any wrestling hall of fame. He has several reigns as World Champion in every promotion he’s wrestled for, his list of memorable matches and rivalries is lengthy, and he has selflessly given back to the industy he loves. However one or two ‘Mania appearances would be the proverbial cherry on top that would overshadow any second thoughts Vince could have about inducting the Stinger.

WWE has to push a ’rival’ talent
Although Wrestlemania 27 seems to be a perfect opportunity for Sting to make his WWE debut, Sting still remains a long shot to appear. This is due to the fact that his entire career has been spent working for Vince McMahon’s opposition. Whether its WCW or TNA, Sting has always appeared for the WWE’s competition. And don’t think The Chairman has forgotten this fact. He is not a fan of pushing stars that were not created by his own billionaire brain cells. Only a handful of outside talents found success up north: Big Show and Ric Flair are two names that come to mind immediately. Guys like Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Jericho got their first exposure to mainstream American audiences in WCW but were not given the opportunity to be a bonafide star until they jumped ship to the WWE(F). Vince gave it a shot with others like Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Lex Luger with whom they achieved short term moderate success. Besides the above mentioned names, very few workers that carry the label of a ”WCW guy” or ” TNA guy” have had the opportunities to be real main stay stars under McMahon’s banner. What’s working in Sting’s favor is where he currently is in his career. Vince knows he can bring in Sting, use him as a novelty act for a year or so, put him in WWE’s Hall of Fame, and send him home with enough money to retire for good with. He may even throw a legends contract in there so he can label Sting a WWE Legend. We can only hope that egos will be set aside and a deal can be reached before the big show on April 3rd for everybody’s sake.

[ooTin]

Originally Posted by thebladejob.com With all the buzz surrounding the 2.21.11 Promo that aired on Raw there has been rampant speculation on the internet about who the “man in the rain coat seeking shelter from a monsoon in a secluded desert shack” could be. The possible candidates, for the most part, have been narrowed down to two. The safe bet is a returning Undertaker while the long-shot is a debuting Sting. More likely than not the “anonymous wet desert dweller” will turn out to be the Deadman returning from the grave yet again. But what if it turned out to be the more far fetched choice of the Stinger? What would that mean to the wrestling world? TNA could have lost its Icon for good No wrestler in the history of TNA has been more important than Sting. There could possibly be arguments made for Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, or Jeff Jarrett but the statistics would quickly silence them. He is called TNA’s Icon for a reason. Nobody has enjoyed a more consistent run in the company’s main event scene than the Stinger. Out of the six Bound For Glory mega Pay-Per-Views TNA has produced Sting has main evented four. When a promotion puts on its most important show it turns to its most important star. In addition to being a 3x (NWA)TNA World Heavyweight Champion, Sting has helped make new stars in TNA for example: AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and Matt Morgan. Perhaps more important than that, Sting has a recognizable face to a wide range of fans including the casual fans that does not watch as frequently as they did in the 80s and 90s. But when they flip on Spike TV looking for a marathon of UFC Unleashed or 1,000 Ways to Die and they catch a glimpse of Sting’s painted mug they’ll stay and watch for a while because it conjures up memories of their childhood where it was okay to watch pro wrestling. In order for TNA to attract fans their audience has to give a shit about your characters so their willing to invest they’re time into your TV show and money to your live events and Pay-Per-Views. Sting is someone that the fans care about. If Sting has signed a deal with WWE or does in the future it will probably close the door on a return to TNA. A WWE deal complete with a nice salary and Wrestlemania bonus would probably land the Icon enough cash to hang up his black boots for good. It also would allow him the chance to go out like a legend should, on top. Wrestlemania 27 Gets a boost of interest Let’s face it this year’s ‘Mania lineup is lacking a definite “it” factor. While the tentative card seems to consist of some interesting match-ups, it does not yet have the feel of the biggest show of the year. Wrestlemania has a spectacular lure associated with it, but it’s not supported by the proposed plans. However, if Sting is thrown into the mix (a WCW legend in the defunct organization’s former capital city of Atlanta Georgia) then WWE would be onto something special. Wrestling fans have waited for Sting to make the jump up north since he made his name in the NWA almost a quarter century ago. There was a long stretch where it looked like there was zero chance the Stinger would ever cross the line into WWE territory. But now it seems like the planets have aligned and there is a small seemingly perfect sized window for both Vince McMahon and Steve Borden to capitalize. His arrival would bring up so many burning questions. Questions that can only be answered by watching hours of WWE programming. Questions like: why did he come? who would he face at his first ever Wrestlemania? Does he still have what it takes to perform on a grand stage? Sting cements his legacy Barring an utterly embarrassing performance at Wrestlemania 27, a high profile appearance at the “Grandaddy of’em All” would assure Sting a spot on the elite list of wrestling’s all time greats. Right now Sting’s credentials qualify him for any wrestling hall of fame. He has several reigns as World Champion in every promotion he’s wrestled for, his list of memorable matches and rivalries is lengthy, and he has selflessly given back to the industy he loves. However one or two ‘Mania appearances would be the proverbial cherry on top that would overshadow any second thoughts Vince could have about inducting the Stinger. WWE has to push a ’rival’ talent Although Wrestlemania 27 seems to be a perfect opportunity for Sting to make his WWE debut, Sting still remains a long shot to appear. This is due to the fact that his entire career has been spent working for Vince McMahon’s opposition. Whether its WCW or TNA, Sting has always appeared for the WWE’s competition. And don’t think The Chairman has forgotten this fact. He is not a fan of pushing stars that were not created by his own billionaire brain cells. Only a handful of outside talents found success up north: Big Show and Ric Flair are two names that come to mind immediately. Guys like Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Jericho got their first exposure to mainstream American audiences in WCW but were not given the opportunity to be a bonafide star until they jumped ship to the WWE(F). Vince gave it a shot with others like Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Lex Luger with whom they achieved short term moderate success. Besides the above mentioned names, very few workers that carry the label of a ”WCW guy” or ” TNA guy” have had the opportunities to be real main stay stars under McMahon’s banner. What’s working in Sting’s favor is where he currently is in his career. Vince knows he can bring in Sting, use him as a novelty act for a year or so, put him in WWE’s Hall of Fame, and send him home with enough money to retire for good with. He may even throw a legends contract in there so he can label Sting a WWE Legend. We can only hope that egos will be set aside and a deal can be reached before the big show on April 3rd for everybody’s sake.

There are so many things wrong with this i dont know where to start.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by XL Also, why would Sting be digging Taker out of the grave? And how would it lead to a fued between the two?

"I dug you up because there's one thing I've never had a shot at, your streak at Wrestlemania.
You owe me a match. Do you accept?"

Taker thinks about it. He accepts. Lots of dramatic promos and mindgames.

See how easy that is? It's not really hard when you are dealing with something as simple to book as the streak, and 2 supernatural gimmicks. The match is something fans have wanted to see for 15 years. It pretty much books itself no matter how you start it.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Juan I don't see how anyone can be certain one way or another about who the promos are for. Some people seem really convinced.

Seriously. I love how it goes from overwhelmingly Sting, to 100% Taker just because WWE put in a Johnny Cash song.
Like deception or additional details are out of the question.

And I'm also not convinced on anything the sheets say one way or another. Yea, it's probably not Sting but I'm not going to bet the house on it either way because of what Meltzer says. He's been wrong before.
This "no contact" thing is a crapshoot. I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon and Steve Borden can have a conference call without Ryan Clark knowing.

[XL]

It's a simple concept but it sounds awful.

[CSL]

Originally Posted by ooTin There are so many things wrong with this i dont know where to start.

This is like Mugabe having a go at Bin Laden for 'being a bit of a dick'.

[Jeritron]

Not really. That's typical Undertaker stuff. Really it's about getting the match in place. Sting wants a shot and digs him up to get it? What's so awful about that?

Shawn Michaels just wanted a shot and beat Vladmir Kozlov for it, and look how that turned out

[MoFo]

Lights go out on 21/2/11 Raw.

Lights back on.

"OMG KING ITS TEH UNDERTAKER"

Taker promo.

Lights go out again.

Lights back on (dim)

Taker laid out.

"OMG IS THAT.......THATS STING"

Camera shot to Sting w/ bat in rafters.



Profit.

[ooTin]

Originally Posted by CSL This is like Mugabe having a go at Bin Laden for 'being a bit of a dick'.

Piss off CSL you are the only person who still gives me shit. It not "trending" anymore. Let it go. Stop living in the past. Etc Etc.

[ooTin]

Originally Posted by MoFo Lights go out on 21/2/11 Raw. Lights back on. "OMG KING ITS TEH UNDERTAKER" Taker promo. Lights go out again. Lights back on (dim) Taker laid out. "OMG IS THAT.......THATS STING" Camera shot to Sting w/ bat in rafters. Profit.

That would be the only good way to do it if its really Sting. Which its not.

[Fignuts]

Don't do it naitch. If you leave, who will post the abundance of threads asking questions that can easily be answered on wikipedia.

[VSG]

I will admit, I get a kick out of reading this thread and the posts whenever I come in here. Whoever it is in the end, I will be satisfied because you know why? Nothing I say, or want it to be will matter. Deal with it, and enjoy it.

Also, WTF with taker707 having a 10-page successful thread?

[CSL]

Originally Posted by ooTin Piss off CSL you are the only person who still gives me shit. It not "trending" anymore. Let it go. Stop living in the past. Etc Etc.

Of course I am, that's why your rep has been obliterated. Because I'm the only one that thinks you're terrible. Same response goes for your PM.

[XL]

Originally Posted by Jeritron Not really. That's typical Undertaker stuff. Really it's about getting the match in place. Sting wants a shot and digs him up to get it? What's so awful about that? Shawn Michaels just wanted a shot and beat Vladmir Kozlov for it, and look how that turned out

I dunno, I guess having someone dig him up is better than Taker somehow managing to get himself out of the grave.

Although I would like to actually see Taker "rise from the grave" at some point. It'd work for me if they went back to the arena where he lost the Buried Alive Match and throughout the show stuff happens (camera cuts out, lights go out, some random person begins to convulse, etc) until a lightening bolt hits the "concrete". Taker then climbs out of the "grave" covered in mud and looking every part the "deadman" he is billed as. The bell tolls, the lights drop and Taker disappears ready to return on the next show.

IF it is Taker in the videos, why is he being filmed in a shed instead of kicking the asses of the guys who buried him?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If it's Sting naitch stays. If it's Taker he quits tpww forever?

REST IN PEACE NAITCH!

[Swish]

Partial Source: Pwinsider – By browsing the RAW clips section of Hulu, the video of the mystery figure for 2/21 is titled, “He’s Coming Back.” This all but confirms the return of The Undertaker since Sting has never “been there.” Note from Ryan Clark: I can’t stress this enough guys – there are no plans for Sting to debut with WWE and there have been absolutely NO TALKS whatsoever between the two sides as of Monday of this week. Sting has been in talks with Dixie Carter and numerous TNA sources expect him to re-sign with TNA in the very near future.

So just because Hulu states "He's Coming Back" as the title, Ryan Clark
says (Oh It's not STING!!. It's Undertaker 100% confirmed). Ha Ryan please you are such a prick. Wait and see everyone who believed it was Undertaker and turns out to be STING! will be made fools off. ...

[TheAdamEvansFan]

I'M ANGRY.

I'm fed up.

I've never had a issue with Ryan Clark before, but seriously, keep your fucking opinion out of reporting about Sting and the rumors.

You can't keep saying without a doubt that it's not sting and he's not coming back.

My sources are telling me that Sting doesn't want to return to TNA with Hogan.

My sources are telling me that Sting wants to be in Atlanta to relive this WCW affair.

My sources are telling me that Sting wants merchandise sales and that he enjoys WWE PG programming.

My sources are telling me that Sting wants to get his wrestling school involved in WWE developmental in California.

My sources are telling me that these aren't sources at all, but my wrestling intuition. Stop reporting bullshit and report fact, or step aside.

I've been reading TPWW Main Page for 10 years now, and it's just turned garbage in recent months with this HIP HOP shit and this. I'm a huge hip hop mark, but I come to the wrestling website to get updated on wrestling.

My PREDICTION is that Undertaker might be the vignette but Sting will also be returning either Monday Night or soon before Wrestlemania. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK RYAN CLARK. When I'm right, I'll expect to run this site from now on.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Sting & Undertaker vs Kane and Barrett.

BOOK IT!

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Also, what if Kanes father was only at the TNA event to look for Sting?

Could that play into some sort of an angle?

[Calamondin]

Well, at this point it's either a great work... or it's the Undertaker. I'm more inclined to think it's the later.

[Lock Jaw]

This thread is a barrel o' laughs.

[VSG]

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan Also, what if Kanes father was only at the TNA event to look for Sting? Could that play into some sort of an angle?

My sources are telling me Kane has "killed" his father.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

TheAdamEvansFan vs. Ryan Clark in an essay contest/great debate at WrestleMania 27. BOOK IT!

The Essay topic is on "Attribution and its importance as a proper journalist."

[Juan]

I'll never understand why people even read the front page. There are dozens of other pages out there that are legit or that at least give credit to their sources.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Originally Posted by Juan I'll never understand why people even read the front page. There are dozens of other pages out there that are legit or that at least give credit to their sources.

My excuse would have to be that TPWW has always been simple access (except for the server issues this past year).

TPWW doesn't have popups and doesn't lag my computer.

TPWW always has up to date information and use be unbias reporting. (Fuck you Ryan Clark)


Now, I'm just eh.

I mean, anyone can really call a storyline or pretty much know what's going to happen on a weekly basis. Creative is always dropping hints, it's just on us to pick up on it.

However, with Undertaker, it's more like they are dropping too many hints.

They've also speculated that Taker wasn't in good enough shape to wrestle a singles match, but everyone speculates that Barrett was moved to Smackdown to face Taker at Wrestlemania.

Along with the WCW Hall of Fame going on, and Sting still a free agent, I just don't fucking get how Ryan Clark can keep telling us how he knows it's not STING because of his sources.

If Vince McMahon has Sting's ear, he isn't going to give out his secret to anyone, he will let this surprise bump ratings up to Wrestlemania.

I'm pretty much coming out of my trolling character in this post, but Ryan Clark, you sir need to retire (and stay retired unlike favre/flair).

[Providence Peep]

People have been saying it's either Taker or Sting.... but maybe it's neither one of them. Has anyone thought of that? Isn't it possible that what we've just seen so far is just a swerve? Of course.

[MoFo]

Its not a WCW HOF.......Shawn Michaels is the only name announced so far.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

All the WCW guys like Luger, Sid, Savage, Nash, Booker, Xpac, etc, are rumored to be there in Atlanta.

You can speculate all you want against it! :P

[Mr. C]

If it were to be Sting vs. The Undertaker at WrestleMania, I’d have Undertaker return on 2 21 11. He starts to cut a promo about WrestleMania, talking about the streak and how it will continue. Then the lights go out…Sting standing in the ring.

The feud can be epic and go from there. Undertaker goes for 19-0, and it could possibly be his last match too.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Originally Posted by Providence Peep People have been saying it's either Taker or Sting.... but maybe it's neither one of them. Has anyone thought of that?

If we are still talking about the vignette, I don't see who else it could be.

I mean, they've been dropping hints that it's the Undertaker, too many really.

So they would want us to think it's Undertaker, but who else could fit the guy in the dark, with those boots, in black?

I'd say since Sting is a free agent and blah blah blah, he's the most obvious person to be speculated.

You think it's THE BOOGEYMAN?!

[Providence Peep]

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan I'm pretty much coming out of my trolling character in this post

Your trolling is part of your character??

Anyway guys, just found the following info on-line... it's something else for us to to think about...

From new Wrestling Observer: Undertaker vs. Barrett has been dropped as the main event and they have a new direction for Undertaker which will be the main event on the show. It’s possible the new direction could change, but it’s doubtful, because it involves Michaels (obviously not wrestling) in some form and is being counted on to be the big thing on the show.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Originally Posted by Rated R Classic If it were to be Sting vs. The Undertaker at WrestleMania, I’d have Undertaker return on 2 21 11. He starts to cut a promo about WrestleMania, talking about the streak and how it will continue. Then the lights go out…Sting standing in the ring. The feud can be epic and go from there. Undertaker goes for 19-0, and it could possibly be his last match too.

I don't see that match happening.

What I do see happening is the following...

Hype building and buzz around the lockeroom about the Deadmans return.

Clip to the back where Corre gets beat down by Nexus or a mystery person.

Barrett and Kane are backstage talking about the Deadman and how he needs to be taken out tonight if it's him.

Undertaker shows up, Barrett, Kane, and the Corre trap him around the ring.

LIGHTS GO OUT....

Back on..

Stings in the ring with a bat, with everyone but taker laid out or maybe not even have him in the ring at all, just taker left standing.

This would then lead to a huge build up to Wrestlemania about Stings intentions, about Stings thoughts on Kane and Taker, and the Corre.

It'd bring back the oldschool Sting vs NWO mindset too, which would be good for Atlanta as a final send off.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Originally Posted by Providence Peep Your trolling is part of your character?? Anyway guys, just found the following info on-line... it's something else for us to to think about... From new Wrestling Observer: Undertaker vs. Barrett has been dropped as the main event and they have a new direction for Undertaker which will be the main event on the show. It’s possible the new direction could change, but it’s doubtful, because it involves Michaels (obviously not wrestling) in some form and is being counted on to be the big thing on the show.

Triple H vs Taker with Michaels as a guest referee would be awful.


Trips needs to go after Sheamus and have a good ole fashioned street brawl, not kayfabing with Taker to rehash an old storyline.

That'll be an awful match, SORRY JAMES STEELE.

[Mr. C]