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Old 02-20-2011, 11:07 PM   #401
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I'm not complaining but I've noticed that ever since Cena won his first WWE Championship at WrestleMania 21, he's been in every World Championship Match since.

Also, every single match Cena has had at WrestleMania, has been a championship match.

XX - United States Championship
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XXIV - WWE Championship
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:08 PM   #402
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Well fuck, I get back into Wrestling for all of 6 days before I am completely turned off it again.

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Old 02-20-2011, 11:08 PM   #403
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Now that we know Cena's winning at Mania, we can at least hope for the payoff of seeing the show end with him getting the title, celebrating, and then having his ass handed to him as the Rock lays the smackdown on that walking bowl of fruity pebbles with a Rock Bottom and People's Elbow.

If the WWE wants to sweeten the pot for me, include cutaways to Punk watching it all happen. I will willingly give Vince my money for that.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:08 PM   #404
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Crap, missed all of the PPV. Trying to find a stream, but haven't yet. Hope it was good.
Cena won. Lawler lost. Are you surprised?
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Initially, I was very disappointed that I could not afford to order this ppv. I really thought Lawler was winning the Championship and that I wouldn't be able to see it happen. Now that I know he hasn't (plus, now that I know Cena won the EC] I can honestly say that I don't feel like I missed much. I mean hell, how many times have we already seen Miz vs. Cena and now we'll be seeing it again for the billionth time at what is supposed to be the biggest show of the year???
I bought the ppv and I'm not disappointed. I didn't want Cena to win but other than that it was a good ppv. Morrison has really done some great work the last 2 ppv. If Vince doesn't give him a push after WM I'll be shocked.
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Was the Kingston-Del Rio match any good? I couldn't find a decent stream until the end of the Smackdown EC match. Besides that, I thought this was a ok ppv. Sad that Lawler didn't win, but a better match than I expected.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:10 PM   #407
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I bought the ppv and I'm not disappointed. I didn't want Cena to win but other than that it was a good ppv. Morrison has really done some great work the last 2 ppv. If Vince doesn't give him a push after WM I'll be shocked.
Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.
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Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.
Because people would definitely pay to see that.
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The IWC won't be happy until Cena is jobbing on superstars every week, I swear to god.
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I don't really mind Cena winning, I expected it. A slight part of me hoped that he'd lose and Rocky would actually wrestle a match, but turns out he wasn't bullshitting about never working another match.

Personally speaking though, unless Taker/HHH Streak vs. Career goes through or Sting comes in, I can't see myself buying Mania. Cena/Miz and Del Rio/Edge should be good matches and everything but it doesn't exactly scream MUST SEE. Even Rock's involvement doesn't seem as big now since you know he'll be there to Rock Bottom and People's Elbow Miz and then hug Cena for the WM moment. Cool but not worth $50 to me.

We'll see. They've got like 5-6 weeks to build this thing up.
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With all the star power WWE has lost in the past year, you'd have to be a bit off your John Rocker to think Cena wasn't going to headline this Wrestlemania.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:13 PM   #412
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Kids wouldn't...which is Cena's base.
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We could have avoided all of these 'problems' with a Kevin Nash 'Anecdote half-hour' as the WrestleMania main event, would have shattered all records as well as being better than all other Mania mains combined.
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With all the star power WWE has lost in the past year, you'd have to be a bit off your John Rocker to think Cena wasn't going to headline this Wrestlemania.
Triple H will remedy this.
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It wasn't a weak ending, it just lacked the drama of the last 10 minutes of the match so looked weak in comparison to the last couple of eliminations. Interesting to see where this all goes...
This is what I was going to say. The people I was watching with just kinda went ehhh at the ending because I guess they were expecting something more climactic and instead it was a relatively quick finish.

I don't get the impression that they were overly disappointed just had other expectations.
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Is there going to be a MITB this year? If not I say Morrison vs. Bryan for the U.S. Title.
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Because people would definitely pay to see that.
If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.
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Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.

I agree that Miz/Morrison is gonna be a hell of a match but I also know that there is no way that Cena isn't gonna headline WM. I had hoped that maybe Rock/Cena would be WM main event.....I know I'm crazy for even thinking that but after Monday I was sure hoping it would come true.
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If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.
Yea like say...The Rock? Would have made more sense to me.They could drop morrison in a triple threat with Miz/Cena
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I don't get the impression that they were overly disappointed just had other expectations.
But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.
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If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.
It doesn't matter how much you tart it up in 5-6 weeks, the majority of WWE's core audience is always going to shell out more for a Cena headlined Mania than a John Morrison version.
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If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.
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But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.
No it wasn't who won they had other expectations for. I mean they already knew Cena was winning. I guess they just expected some big Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote type thing to end the match as opposed to the quick finish.
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But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.
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I'm giving up on looking for a replay. Just as well because Cena won aAIWEHFIWFIWDNSKVDFPTRPVNF
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Morrison isn't ready for a WM main event, no matter how many ninja flips he does.
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Yeah but dude, it's Wrestling Fucking Mania. IMO, every single match should be a "headline" match. There should be no distinction between who will "headline" the card and who won't. Know what I mean? No, of course Morrison isn't the biggest superstar in the company and maybe he never will be. So Morrison vs. Miz didn't have to be the last match on the card. That spot could have been saved for Cena vs. whoever.

How many of you would have rather had seen Cena vs. Orton at WM rather than Cena vs. Miz? Yeah, I know we've seen both of those matches a million times, but if it were Cena/Orton, then it could be Miz/Morrison.
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Yeah but dude, it's Wrestling Fucking Mania. IMO, every single match should be a "headline" match. There should be no distinction between who will "headline" the card and who won't. Know what I mean?
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:25 PM   #431
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Both chamber matches were the goods tonight... but... it all means nothing when you know who the winners are going to be beforehand. Which is why the EC should not be in between the Rumble and WM. If it was an event some other time, when you actually thought that some of these other guys in the match could win, it could be great.

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I get what Peep is saying to an extent. Miz vs. Morrison in the WWE Title match could have definitely been done and the show would still get a fuckload of buys.

However, the reason for those buys would be because Cena would have to go in a match against either Rock or the Undertaker. Those are the only two guys "big" enough for Cena to face at Mania with no title on the line.

So yeah, Cena was headlining Mania title or no title.
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Here's what I would have liked to see happen at WM:

The Miz vs. John Morrison
Randy Orton vs. John Cena
Edge vs. Christian
Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
Sting vs. The Undertaker

I know we've seen a couple of those matches already, but IMO that's still better than what we're getting.
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I get what Peep is saying to an extent. Miz vs. Morrison in the WWE Title match could have definitely been done and the show would still get a fuckload of buys.

However, the reason for those buys would be because Cena would have to go in a match against either Rock or the Undertaker. Those are the only two guys "big" enough for Cena to face at Mania with no title on the line.

So yeah, Cena was headlining Mania title or no title.
And then people bitch that the world title is meaningless. WWE can't win either way.
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Here's what I would have liked to see happen at WM:

The Miz vs. John Morrison
Randy Orton vs. John Cena
Edge vs. Christian
Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
Sting vs. The Undertaker

I know we've seen a couple of those matches already, but IMO that's still better than what we're getting.
4 rehashed feuds are what you were hoping for? Good god, kid.
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4 rehashed feuds are what you were hoping for? Good god, kid.
Why, Cena vs. Miz isn't rehashed?
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This almost entire PPV was utterly predictable but it managed to put out some quality matches and I can't help but notice that a few guys seem to be a lot more intense since The Rock showed up.
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