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Old 02-28-2011, 11:00 PM   #241
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I really wish j-mo wud have gotten some time tonite. Guy is pushed like crazy recently and you dont even give him a squash match to get him some exposure, simply unreal
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:00 PM   #242
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why does Buffalo get a Raw and Denver hasn't for like 4 years?
You forgot about the Nuggets debacle?

Shame on you.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:01 PM   #243
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The Attitude Era is gone, but now we have the Social Networking Era. Cena hit with an iPhone!
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #244
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You forgot about the Nuggets debacle?

Shame on you.
oh yeah, blocked that out of my mind
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #245
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They just took a commercial at 11:02? HUH?!
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #246
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Wow, they're doing overrun tonight.
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So, apparently Riley's "john" (toilet) joke was off the cuff?
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #248
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Umm Alex shouldn't look that competitive here. It's Cena, and he is Alex Riley.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:04 PM   #249
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What Nuggets debacle?
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I went to The Miz's Twitter just after he took the photo of Cena and my internet crashed, so I've missed most of the match.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:04 PM   #251
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After like, 10 years, Cena still can't take a proper bump. Fantastic
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:06 PM   #252
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What Nuggets debacle?
About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:08 PM   #253
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:09 PM   #254
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About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.
And of course, he moved it to LA, who Denver was playing
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:11 PM   #255
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And then the Main Event was a 5 on 5 match with lakers and Nuggets jerseys. Lakers won.

Kennedy dropped Orton on his head and got fired the next day.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:11 PM   #256
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About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.

So they did some sort of 'inside joke' by having a 10man tag match wearing Lakers & Nuggets jerseys.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:11 PM   #257
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and then spent like half of that show mocking the Nuggets
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:11 PM   #258
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:12 PM   #259
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:14 PM   #260
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Worst Raw in ages
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:15 PM   #261
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So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw
Not watched RAW but I'm guessing this is a ridiculous overreaction.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:17 PM   #263
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Nope. Pretty spot on, actually. Atrocious RAW.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:18 PM   #264
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That bad? Really?
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:19 PM   #265
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This was just an abysmally bad Raw. I don't even have any interest in Miz/Cena since Miz feels like an afterthought and Cena/Rock is the main story. Miz has next to no chance of winning.

With 4 weeks to go, I'm currently leaning towards not buying it. Hope they get their shit together next week.

God I really wish I hadn't dropped $80 on Raw seats. If I get 100 minutes of promos/breaks with 20 minutes of wrestling I'm gonna flip. Yeah there are Superstars matches too but big whoop.
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Yeah, I'm going to Mania and I'm not that excited about Mania after tonight. I know it will still be a great show because it's Mania, but WWE really showed me nothing tonight to get excited about other than The Rock. Minor mark-out moment for the return of Evan Bourne and I'm excited to see Sin Cara.

That's it.

Awful Raw.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:22 PM   #267
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I enjoyed the first hour, but the 2nd hour was bad.

HHH/Taker, Lawler/Cole, and Orton/Punk got some nice build..meanwhille Miz/Cena's build tonight was pretty horrendous.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:22 PM   #268
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That bad? Really?
Yup there was 20 minutes total of wrestling (none of it very entertaining at that)

A snooze inducing HHH promo, it had zero passion.

An awful awful awful Cena promo that basically made Miz out to look like a dipshit

The highlights were King/Cole and an amazing Rock promo (A promo that wasn't even in ring). That's it about 30 minutes of entertainment.

It was just surreal a Raw on the RTWM being used to bury so much talent
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Just gotta keep telling myself that April 11th is AFTER Mania so there should actually be a decent amount of wrestling. I have yet to see a bad show live so I'm hoping that trend continues. If it's anything like tonight in terms of amount of wrestling I'll probably second guess ever going to a TV show again.
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God I really wish I hadn't dropped $80 on Raw seats. If I get 100 minutes of promos/breaks with 20 minutes of wrestling I'm gonna flip. Yeah there are Superstars matches too but big whoop.
Nah, don't feel bad, Vito. Just try to have a good time. I spent $250 on two, tenth row tix for RAW in Providence a few weeks ago. I got them from a ticket agent.
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Nah, don't feel bad, Vito. Just try to have a good time. I spent $250 on two, tenth row tix for RAW in Providence a few weeks ago. I got them from a ticket agent.
I'm going to Raw solo for the first time because nobody I usually go with can make it. Hence it's even more important to have a good show.
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And when I saw awful Cena promo I mean so awful he actually killed the crowd

I'd be so pissed if I paid to see that live, their best moment was spent staring at the titan tron
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I don't get what everyone is so mad about with miz.

So Cena made him look like a dipshit. His character IS a dipshit. He's a slimey weasel who cheats to win, and doesn't fight like a man.

This isn't ROH. There is no code of honor.
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So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw
Yeah, when you put it like that, it was a pretty bad Raw. Even though it's not long finished, all I can mostly remember from Raw is talking.

That's it.
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This Raw went down the tubes as soon Michael Cole came back on.
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I don't get what everyone is so mad about with miz.

So Cena made him look like a dipshit. His character IS a dipshit. He's a slimey weasel who cheats to win, and doesn't fight like a man.

This isn't ROH. There is no code of honor.
It's not about honor it';s about not booking your champ as a total joke going into the biggest show of the year.

Miz might be slimy and a cheater but he's trying to be a serious heel, Cena comes in puts his arm around him, calls him gay, etc... it just treats Miz like a total joke.
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Aaaaaaaand then miz delivers a skull crushing finale to cena to end the show for the second week in a row.

That kind of negates any gay jokes cena makes, at least in my eyes.
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Aaaaaaaand then miz delivers a skull crushing finale to cena to end the show for the second week in a row.

That kind of negates any gay jokes cena makes, at least in my eyes.
It helps with the sting, I don't think it negates.
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So, can anyone give me a logical explanation as to why the WWE abandoned the past 18 months of growth they tried to give their roster? Is it due to their Q4 earnings? Because what they've done thus far in 2011 is god awful, something you'd see inferior organizations like WCW would do.

They bring in an entire new crop of wrestlers that they put their time and money into making us believe could compete with the John Cena's and Undertaker's of the world. And they did a pretty darn good job at it.

Now? They've managed to destroy almost all of it and I just cannot understand why. And it's a shame because I'm a fan they lost due to having the same four or five main events for what seemed like five or six years. They brought me in with new refreshing characters, but now I don't even see a point to watch when all they are doing is sending them down to WWE Superstars.

Raw:

The Good:

The Miz: Maybe the ONLY success story on the show now which is really sad considering the landscape of the show a few months ago.

John Morrison: I guess it's considered in the "good" category, but now he's got no one to feud with after being given a whopping ONE WEEK run as #1 contender.

The Bad:

Sheamus: He's gone from a WWE Champion, to a perennial contender winning King of the Ring to an absolute jobber. He was over as a credible heel, but it will take months of image repair to what they've done to him even in the past two weeks.

Daniel Bryan: Has never even been given a chance to shine. Has held the US Title since the fall but has never been given anyone to feud with. Had one good match against the Miz that just went down the drain being jumped for no reason tonight. Holds a title with no feud for WM.

Ted DiBiase: Went from a major member of a group to being maybe the biggest jobber on Raw, losing a feud to Goldust.

Nexus: Took the hottest group and feud of 2010, and pissed it all away within two weeks and now is an absolute mess and is dragging their top heel in CM Punk along with it.

The Hart Foundation: They were maybe the only over tag team in the WWE and decided to break it up. And they managed to make BOTH guys Marty Jannety as DH Smith is off TV and Tyson Kidd had a grand two week heel run.

Smackdown:

The good:

Alberto Del Rio: They seem to be in love with ADR and I can't see him losing to Edge here.

Cody Rhodes: He looked like the odd man out after WrestleMania last year, but now he's done really well with his opportunity.

Dolph Ziggler: The guy got a good push and is being paired with a heel machine in Vickie.

The Bad:

Wade Barrett: Part of the Nexus debacle. The guy was maybe the top heel in the WWE and they've absolutely destroyed his push. He's now at best going to have a meaningless match with the Big Show.

Drew McIntyre: Pushed to the moon at first, was pretty over and showed potential. He's now stuck in some crummy feud with Kelly Kelly in the middle of it.

Jack Swagger: From #1 contender for the WWE Title, to a champion, to being Michael Cole's side kick in one year.

Kofi Kingston: The crowd loves him and his MSG moment with Orton got one of the loudest pops in the WWE in maybe the past five years (pales in comparison to say Rock a few weeks ago but still.) Today, he's an IC champion but is now nothing more than a jobber, and also has no one to feud with. On a side note, you gotta love the fact that neither mid-card champion has had ANY feuds in 2010.

Ezekiel Jackson: He kicked some ass a few months back, disappears, is repackaged to be some kind of monster, then becomes the muscle of a group that never wrestles.



With a youth movement going on, this was an opportunity to really show case them ESPECIALLY when you consider the fact you got HHH, Undertaker, Austin and the Rock all being involved in some fashion. Instead the vast majority is now completely buried.

We might as well just let Booker T and Diesel run all over then. Everyone else is now.
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It helps with the sting, I don't think it negates.
Actions speak louder than words, and Miz has gotten the better of Cena two weeks in a row now. As far as I'm concerned, Miz looks stronger now, than he's ever been.
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