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Old 03-08-2011, 02:05 PM   #81
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And The Hardys.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:42 PM   #82
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:05 PM   #83
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Eddie Guerrero.
He was huge in bringing in a big Hispanic audience for Smackdown!, gotta disagree.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:10 PM   #84
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And The Hardys.
Jeff draws all the time
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:14 PM   #85
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I'm pretty sure Sting himself will tell you that Ric Flair was key to getting him over in the first place
I remember him going from Mid-Card meh face to big fucking deal in about 45 minutes during a Clash.
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:39 PM   #86
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I remember him going from Mid-Card meh face to big fucking deal in about 45 minutes during a Clash.
You also got to see some of the promos before the Clash as well, such as this...
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Is this a joke? If it is, meh. If not, are you kidding? When was the last time a Wrestlemania didn't feature the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight Title? Merchandise and PPV buys, tickets, ratings, are you nuts? Just think about what Wrestlemania will be like without The Undertaker someday. I understand you may be tired of The Undertaker, but come on! He has been is some of the biggest storylines from each era he has been in. I am at a loss at this remark and cannot fathom what you are thinking.
I don't think people are going to or buying Wrestlemania on PPV because of the Undertaker. I don't remember any time where I went out of my way to watch a PPV because taker was on it. How were the buy rates of all PPVs he headlined other than Wrestlemania? I like the guy and I'm not trying to dis him, I just don't think many people are shelling out money to see the Undertaker.

I could be wrong.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:35 AM   #88
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Your an idiot. Sting, Angle, Flair, Hogan, they all have drawn huge. And Impact! still does above average cable ratings. Chill.
Have drawn.

Have drawn.

Have drawn.

Yes, they may have been draws at one time, but they ain't done shit for TNA. Their sub-10,000 PPV buys prove that pretty well.

A good PPV buy rate is 10% of your average TV audience.

TNA averages 1.1 million people per week. That should translate into 110,000 PPV buys. TNA is lucky to get 1%, many times it's below that.

This proves no one in TNA is a draw.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:13 AM   #89
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Have drawn.

Have drawn.

Have drawn.

Yes, they may have been draws at one time, but they ain't done shit for TNA. Their sub-10,000 PPV buys prove that pretty well.

A good PPV buy rate is 10% of your average TV audience.

TNA averages 1.1 million people per week. That should translate into 110,000 PPV buys. TNA is lucky to get 1%, many times it's below that.

This proves no one in TNA is a draw.
You raise valid points, but the talent is not to blame it is the who damn production. From the studio audience to the creative, the ADD booking style and alignment changes. Sting is a draw, Jeff Hardy is a draw, Kurt Angle the same... Hell even RVD, the thing is their name was interesting for a few moments, until creative made them so run of the mill and uninteresting that they couldn't draw if they tried.

So your right and wrong in a lot of ways. But in the case of TNA, let us never blame the talent, because they do have a great roster that could be really good but their creative makes it unbearable. TNA itself is an "anti-draw" by this point. To me there is nothing they can do except withstand the test of time and give me a few good years so that basically their entire history is forgotten and replaces with goodness.
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