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Old 03-09-2011, 09:30 PM   #1481
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Watched a replay of the Indians/Padres game last night. Padres lefty Corey Luebke, who was the org's top pitching prospect heading into 2010, got the nod and went a very good 4.1 innings. He looked sharp, keeping the ball down and the hitters off balance. My only gripe with him is that, though it's down at the knees, he missed his spot quite a few times when the catcher set up outside against a lefty, and it cost him in one at bat as a ball that was down the pike and at the knees was called ball four because the location was so far from where the catcher had set up.

Also, Anthony Rizzo, the first baseman included in the Gonzo to the BoSox deal, got the start at first and hit a booming homerun about 390ft. into the left center (opposite field) of off Carlos Carrasco. Even though its just spring training, I love what I'm seeing from this kid Rizzo. MLB Network had his ETA at 2012. I'm hoping so cause this kid looks like he's going to be star with the bat.
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Wow, Zack Greinke will most likely begin the season on the DL after breaking one rib and bruising another while playing BASKETBALL. He'll miss 3 starts.

Ouch, Brewers.

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Wow, Zack Greinke will most likely begin the season on the DL after breaking one rib and bruising another while playing BASKETBALL. He'll miss 3 starts.

Ouch, Brewers.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/M...-starts-030811
Yea, I read that yesterday. What a bummer. Good thing is they still have Gallardo and Marcum, who are very capable. 3 starts is not bad, so it's not like they have to scrape together a 5th guy for three months waiting on Grienke.
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The Brewers' schedule sets up where they'd planned on using a 4 man rotation for the first 3 or 4 turns anyhow. Essentially, all this changes is the 4 men that they'll be using.
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Watched a replay of the Indians/Padres game last night. Padres lefty Corey Luebke, who was the org's top pitching prospect heading into 2010, got the nod and went a very good 4.1 innings. He looked sharp, keeping the ball down and the hitters off balance. My only gripe with him is that, though it's down at the knees, he missed his spot quite a few times when the catcher set up outside against a lefty, and it cost him in one at bat as a ball that was down the pike and at the knees was called ball four because the location was so far from where the catcher had set up.

Also, Anthony Rizzo, the first baseman included in the Gonzo to the BoSox deal, got the start at first and hit a booming homerun about 390ft. into the left center (opposite field) of off Carlos Carrasco. Even though its just spring training, I love what I'm seeing from this kid Rizzo. MLB Network had his ETA at 2012. I'm hoping so cause this kid looks like he's going to be star with the bat.
Yeah, I was watching him on MLB TV. This kid does look to be a star with the bat it seems. I can see why the Pads wanted him.
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But can you see why the Yankees didn't sign him?
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Was Rizzo passed up by the Yankees or something?

And it's starting to look a little clearer that San Diego didn't get fleeced in the Gonzo deal. Sure, niether Kelly nor Rizzo will see time till maybe mid 2012, but both are projecting to be high production, all star caliber players. Getting a middle of the order threat and an top of the rotation ace for one guy is a pretty good haul.
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But can you see why the Yankees didn't sign him?
Huh? What do you mean? I never realized that Rizzo ever had a chance to be in the Yankees minor Leagues. Do you remember any chance who the Yankees went after instead? Cause I have no idea. I have never even heard of this Richard Weems we went after instead. I'm just glad we went after Montero. He has some really great batting ability himself.
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Keith Olbermann taking pics of Vlad before an Os/Pirates ST game. I feel dirty now..eww..why the hell was he there?
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Red Sox put a bunch of players on potential trade block for future deals.

Red Sox are are only willing to give up either Cameron or McDonald and not both due to needing some experience for OF depth.

Wakefield could be dealt for a younger pitcher (developing or starting quality) but he wants to retire as a Red Sox. Dice-K would need to drop his no-trade clause for any deal while the Red Sox would have to eat most of his contract in any deal done.

Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
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I can't deal with that. Just goes against everything I've ever learned.
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Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
When reports that the fourth player in the Gonzalez deal stated that the Padres would be getting a MLB level player as the PTBNL, I was praying that Lowrie was the guy.

Solid defense, and a really good stick. His only issue has been staying healthy, but if you look him up on baseball-reference.com, and see what his career numbers average out to over 162 games, you'd see that, offensively, he's be an above average shortstop.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...owrije01.shtml

If he stayed healthy and punched 40 doubles at Petco Park year in and year, he'd be insanely valuable. Alas, we got stuck with Eric Patterson, instead
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Red Sox put a bunch of players on potential trade block for future deals.

Red Sox are are only willing to give up either Cameron or McDonald and not both due to needing some experience for OF depth.

Wakefield could be dealt for a younger pitcher (developing or starting quality) but he wants to retire as a Red Sox. Dice-K would need to drop his no-trade clause for any deal while the Red Sox would have to eat most of his contract in any deal done.

Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
Gordon Edes is the source here, and he's not exactly a beacon of reliable information in the first place, never mind the fact that some of the names he's tossed out there have zero trade value.
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Keith Olbermann taking pics of Vlad before an Os/Pirates ST game. I feel dirty now..eww..why the hell was he there?

It IS kinda weird to see Keith Olbermann at an Orioles batting practice, just taking pics of Vladimir Guerrero...

...it's an odd pairing, to say the least...
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who is trading for Tim Wakefield at this point?
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...it's an odd pairing, to say the least...
It's really only odd if you completely overlook his 5 years on Sportscenter and his 4 years at Fox Sports Net.
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Its not soo much about the Red Sox deciding to trade away a bunch of players but if some team gave an offer for any of those players, the Red Sox would show some consideration. They do this every Spring Training but most of the time its just the extra minor league players they put on a list or consider moving.

I agree with Vox Populi that almost all those names have no real value besides maybe a low level prospect and would cost the Red Sox more money to get rid of then to trade (ex. eating up most of Dice-K's contract in any deal).

The main goal for the Red Sox is to still get another veteran catcher due to the void Martinez left and their previous catcher they groomed to be their future falling out of favor with the team (left for Yankees for a year and returned but lost his status).
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Or Mike Cameron, for that matter.



It's really only odd if you completely overlook his 5 years on Sportscenter and his 4 years at Fox Sports Net.
But, why VLADIMIR GUERRERO?

I don't mean him in a sports atmosphere, I remember him sporting the 'stache and doing Sportscenter with Dan Patrick...

...It's just weird to see him near Vladi...that's it.
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Well, he's got plenty of spare time on his hands these days...he could very well just be banging around from camp to camp or whatever, I suppose.

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I think you're giving the organization a bit of extra credit here. They've done a pretty piss-poor job of grooming anything resembling a legitimate successor to Varitek, as internally, they'd genuinely thought that Joe Mauer was going to get on the first plane possible out of Minneapolis and knock on the gate at Fenway. Stupid assumption to begin with that looks even dumber when you get a close look at the "top catching prospects" over the past few years. As good of a job as they've done drafting and developing at other positions, they pretty much punted on catchers for several years there.
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I still don't understand why the Red Sox traded for Victor Martinez, and then let him go, basically...
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I think you're giving the organization a bit of extra credit here. They've done a pretty piss-poor job of grooming anything resembling a legitimate successor to Varitek, as internally, they'd genuinely thought that Joe Mauer was going to get on the first plane possible out of Minneapolis and knock on the gate at Fenway. Stupid assumption to begin with that looks even dumber when you get a close look at the "top catching prospects" over the past few years. As good of a job as they've done drafting and developing at other positions, they pretty much punted on catchers for several years there.
I do agree with this, somewhat. But don't too ahead of yourself. The Yankees only recently acquired Montero, and he's not really a catching prospect. Not to mention, as long as a catcher can call a good game, they're doing their job. Catcher is the last position people are going to look for offense from, honestly. Not a lot of good hitting catchers are avaiable.


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I still don't understand why the Red Sox traded for Victor Martinez, and then let him go, basically...
They needed him for a playoff push and stablize the position for the duration of his contract. I'm sure they would have loved to have kept him. But in losing him and Beltre, they upgraded with Crawford and Gonzalez. I think they felt they had to make a choice as to who they felt was more important to the team, and, personally, I'd Gonzo and Crawford over Beltre and Martinez any day of the week.
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I do agree with this, somewhat. But don't too ahead of yourself. The Yankees only recently acquired Montero, and he's not really a catching prospect. Not to mention, as long as a catcher can call a good game, they're doing their job. Catcher is the last position people are going to look for offense from, honestly. Not a lot of good hitting catchers are avaiable.




They needed him for a playoff push and stablize the position for the duration of his contract. I'm sure they would have loved to have kept him. But in losing him and Beltre, they upgraded with Crawford and Gonzalez. I think they felt they had to make a choice as to who they felt was more important to the team, and, personally, I'd Gonzo and Crawford over Beltre and Martinez any day of the week.
I agree! Crawford and A-gon are way better then them. One of the few advantages of having V-Mart on your team is that he could be back up catcher and Adrian really can't . As far as I know Gonzales has never been a catcher. So do the Red Sox trade for another catcher or just go with what they have? I really don't know how good this Exposito guy is , but I believe Varitek is just about done. He may have 2 years left in him but I say in 2012 or 2013 He is retired. So what I would do is trade for a back up or starting catcher mid season. Cause down the road I think you'll need him.
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Pretty sure shortstop is still winning that battle.

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Gonzo, Crawford and 4 draft picks.
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Pretty sure shortstop is still winning that battle.
I'm too lazy to go look it up, but I'd venture to say there are more above average, well rounded shortstops who play at least good defense and are good hitters than there are catchers who profile similarly.

Catcher's been a black hole as a position for ages.
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Yeah, hurt the player...
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Oliver Perez can't be too far behind. They have him slated to pitch in back-to-back games this weekend so if he bombs he'll surely be gone within a week.
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Haha Big Vito. I read that this morning and you were the first person I thought off. Wonder if he will find a home. Also, when the Mets Rule 5'd that Emaus kid, the writing was on the wall.
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Some team will def take a flyer on him since they'd only have to pay league minimum.

Looking back, despite the fact that he got the most starts at the position during spring, I'm not entirely sure that Castillo ever had a real chance. Alderson has said over and over that he views 2B as an offensive position - hence why he really likes Emaus. Emaus is having the shittiest spring by far out of the four guys left but since Toronto will def take him back, he'll get the first chance in what will prolly be a platoon situation with Murphy.

If Reese Havens can actually stay healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see him get hotshotted to the bigs by August if Emaus/Murphy or a Justin Turner/Luis Hernandez call-up underperform.
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My Jays will definitely take Emaus back. I was surprised that they left him unprotected when they keep useless fucks like Mike McCoy on the 40 man roster.
 
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Fuck I can't wait to see this Jays team in a couple years. Soooo much young talent. I never understood why AA got heat for dealing Marcum who's shoulder is acting up for Brett Lawrie considering they have a ton of young pitching. Lawrie has been amazing in spring training. I don't think he's going to make the team this year since Farrell is dead set on moving Bautista back to third which make no sense because it's going to make the Jays outfield horrible with Snider and Rivera on the corners and Rajah Davis who has no arm at all.
 
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...the skies look so clear...the grass so green...the home uniforms are SO white...

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