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Old 03-23-2011, 08:58 AM   #1201
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:55 AM   #1203
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As for accusations of hypocrisy towards the Pens, completely unwarranted, they have publicly spoken in support of the league's suspension of Matt Cooke, hell even Matt Cooke himself has publicly spoken in support of his suspension.

What does say Danny Heatley say about his 2 gamer

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Heatley: "I felt I got him in the chest or shoulder. Obviously I think the two camera angles, weren't the best for that.”
“In that instance I was thinking, finish the check quick and get back in our own end. It's a one-goal game."
Heatley on the hearing: "The way you get to go through it, I think it's fair. You get to say your peace and that's that."
Heatley on discipline after the game: "The way the game went, I thought maybe something might happen to somebody."
Heatley on Ott: "I'm not going to get into a war of words with him. He’s had his fair share of suspensions in the league so for him, all of a sudden to have a halo on his head is kinda funny."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/03/17/11/S...90&feedID=2798



And what does GM Doug Wilson say


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"Nobody wants to see people getting hurt," Sharks general manager Doug Wilson said by phone Wednesday, before Heatley's suspension was announced. "But we have to find a way to keep players safe without changing the game. The reality is that we're not going to be able to take all injuries and concussions out of the game. It's a collision sport."
Translation: It was a hockey play, blah blah blah



http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articl...tt-476190.html


Let's not forget all the absolutely embarrassing comments that came out of Long Island after goon show.
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When I saw the suspensions on both sides and the fines, I was a little bit surprised it was just our club that got fined. You can ask the league about it. There’s nothing we can do about it but put it behind us and get ready for Buffalo.”
“I’m very proud that our team showed restraint. We came to play hockey and obviously, there’s a lot of things that happen in the course of a game. I’m proud of the way our team competed, and I’m going to support my guys.”
http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/igloodreams/31195/



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"They're trying to eliminate checks that end up having an impact to the head," Snow said. "The hit that Trevor administered -- I think he had the right intentions. In fact, he ended up maybe being reverse-hit a little bit and falling to the ice. At that point I think he was probably getting off the ice in engagement mode. Things happen pretty fast and that's the way I saw that play unfold."
Then there was Zenon Konopka and his BS


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”You look at Trevor Gillies,” said Konopka. “He’s a first time offender. He hits a guy, throws a few punches, he gets a nine-game suspension. The guy’s got a wife, two kids and plays in the East Coast Hockey League and AHL most of his career and now he’s going to lose $35,000. And it’s not right. Obviously, the league has their job and not mine, but in here, we feel for him. It hurts not to have Trevor in lineup for nine games. It hurts me, personally, my buddy, out $35,000.”
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/...360/story.html



So you have everyone (including me) absolutely speaking out against Cooke but yet look back at this situation, there was a lot of talk about how awesome it was that the Isles did this, that Mario Lemieux and the Pens are hypocrites and should shut up. Well now I ask you who is the hypocrite The Penguins who have spoken out against their own player as well as the rest of the league or the people who seem to think Matt Cooke is only bad guy in the league and anything done to the Pens is karma because of it.



Hell let's keep going look at Snow after Gilles got suspended for the second game in a row


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“From the play, the way I saw it develop, it was a hit from behind on DiBenedetto by the Minnesota player,” Snow said prior to Saturday’s game against St. Louis, the first of 10 Gillies will miss due to the suspension. “Trevor comes over and tries to finish his check. First point of contact was shoulder-to-shoulder. It was not a hit from behind by any means.
“I think his left glove accidentally followed through and made contact to the head. But, by no means do I think he had the intention to hurt the Minnesota player. I think he was going in with good intentions to finish his check, and it’s unfortunate he did receive a 10-game suspension.
“I know Trevor as a person and I know there was no malicious intent when he was finishing the check.”
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...doesnt-get-it/

Let's also not forget Chara's own BS about how the hit was somewhat Pacioretty's fault

It's GMs like these alongside Bettman, Campbell and co that are turning the NHL into a bush league.
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Yes, after Cooke 10000th suspension RAY SHERO spoke out. Lemieux bitches about everything, yet keeps Cooke in the organization. The only people who don't think Lemieux is a hypocrite are Pens fans.
 
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Friggen Grabovski is 2 goals away from 30. And to think, he was my least favourite player on the Leafs to start the year. I'm astounded at how much improvement he's made, even on face offs and I didn't think I'd ever see that from him.
 
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This season is frustrating. What would have been had Reimer been called up earlier. Probably a shot at the Calder and the Leafs making the playoffs. The kid has been outstanding.
 
Old 03-23-2011, 10:38 AM   #1208
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So Klepto you are saying that being skilled as a player means its OK to be a Whining Hypocrite as an owner. No one questioned Marios skill. We question his ability to complain about the Islanders debacle and then keep putting Matt Cooke (the Human Head Shot Machine) on the ice.
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Lara,

I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.
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I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.
Gilles needed more for his second one, like 15-20, he literally tried to injure someone in back to back games, that says something. Agreed on the rest
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Seriously though. Even as a Habs fan, I have to say it is nice to see the Leafs looking like an NHL team again.

They need a Sundin for Kessel and a power-forward on the LW (Burrows or someone of the sort) and they would have a great line.

Thing is, they still need a Sundin and Burrows.
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Reimer is the real deal. I havent sen a Leaf goaltender play that well positionally in years. Not spectacular, but he's always in position.
 
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Classy Organization the Bruins are

Mark Recchi accuses the Canadiens of embellishing Pacioretty's injury just to get Chara suspended.

His proof? Pacioetrry had the audacity to see a movie 6 days after the hit, so clearly they are dirty lying liars.

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The Habs are bitches. It wouldn't surprise me.
 
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Bitches are still bitches. Like who's fanbase actually call the cops? Cmon.
 
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For the record, I think that people who called the cops on that are retards.

But I still think he should have been suspended.
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Cooke got exactly what he deserved, when have I said the penalty is wrong. Oh wait I haven't. Once again the number is right the reason is wrong.


But let's talk Trevor Gilles then, only 9 and 10 game suspensions and those were in back to back games (and Gilles is a guy who has zero redeeming qualities, Cooke is at least a competent hockey player when he's not losing his mind). Again I'm saying this is the right decision but I'm also saying the NHL needs to be consistent and punish everyone severely. This was an easy one for the NHL, Cooke is public enemy #1, look at Heatley worse hit way more premeditation 2 games, Marchand similar hit 2 games, Chara breaks a guy's neck almost no games (and before anyone says not the same thing, it was interference and thus an illegal hit) Let's start setting the precedent high for these hits regardless who is doing them. It should be 5-10 games for this kind of thing plus more if you are a repeat guy like Cooke. Instead what we have is 2 games for the hit and upwards of 15 games for being Matt Cooke
ONLY 9 and 10 game suspensions? Those are huge suspensions. That's like 20% of the season suspended. If the NHL started handing out suspensions like you're wanting, the NHLPA will have a shit. No one needs those 2 groups bitching at each other again.

I do agree that hits like Heatly's should punished more severely than the typical 2 game slap on the wrist. Larger fines is a place to start, hit these guys in the wallet.

Lumping in Chara with Cooke and Gillies is beyond ridiculous... an illegal hit yes, but that's a 2 minute minor anywhere else on the ice.

Cooke didn't get 14-17 games for "being Matt Cooke" he got what he got because of his past. Anyone else with that history gets the same suspension.
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I've always said if you want to talk solely about talent and skill I don't think it's that arguable that
Lemieux > Gretzky. Conversely if you ask who had the best career? Also a no brainer
Gretzky > Lemieux
If it were my team I'd take 66 over 99 every time in every situation.
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So Klepto you are saying that being skilled as a player means its OK to be a Whining Hypocrite as an owner. No one questioned Marios skill. We question his ability to complain about the Islanders debacle and then keep putting Matt Cooke (the Human Head Shot Machine) on the ice.
Im saying people should listen to probably the best player of all time.

You don't have to agree with him, but at least hear him out.

When he was playing, it was clutch and grab that he "whinned" about, and now as an owner, it's head shots. Both those things make the game less entertaining. Mario was one of the most entertaining guys to watch...I think he knows a thing or two about what should and shouldn't be in the game...

I am assuming Cooke will be released/bought out at the end of the year...If he's not, then what you're saying will hold some merit. Until then, I'll continue to look at Mario as someone who knows best...knows a hell of a lot more than me or you...about whats best for the game.
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I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.
Heatley: yes - he should have got more than a wrist slap.

Chara: no

Chara should have got 1-2 games max. That's hardly "fucking blew it." Any other spot on the ice, its a 2 minute minor. Whoever designed the glass structure is more at fault than Chara.

Anyone comparing Chara to Cooke or Gillies should start watching Baseball...or lawn bowling.
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Classy Organization the Bruins are

Mark Recchi accuses the Canadiens of embellishing Pacioretty's injury just to get Chara suspended.

His proof? Pacioetrry had the audacity to see a movie 6 days after the hit, so clearly they are dirty lying liars.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=359271
Recchi is anything but classless. Hasn't he won a Lady Byng or 2? I know he's been at least nominated. This is playoff style hockey in the regular season. You talk shit about your opponents, there wives, and there mothers. Add the fact its the Habs and Bruins, and this is just Recchi stirring the pot like the wise old man he is. Don't get your panties in a knot and act like the sky is falling every time someone says something you don't like.

On a side note...what is that kid Pacioretty doing watching movies 6 days after a concussion? You're suppose to be sensitive to light and what not. Habs are gearing up for a playoff drive. The last thing this kid should be doing is goofing around.
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This season is frustrating. What would have been had Reimer been called up earlier. Probably a shot at the Calder and the Leafs making the playoffs. The kid has been outstanding.
Schneider > Reimer

I love seeing Leafs fans get excited and filled with hope, because the rest of us know its inevitably going to turn out bad.

You have your moments, i'll give you that. Bending Cowgary over last year in the Phanuef/Aulie trade for example. Absolutely raped the Flames...but then you have trades like Kessel or signings like Finger or Komisarik...

Leafs and Panthers are the only 2 teams not to make the playoffs since the lockout...that's pretty pitiful company to keep.
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Let's see how Schneider would have fared with Lebda, Komisarek and that offence in front of him. Reimer has been amazing.
 
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Schneider has been equally amazing, and he's been developed properly.

You never know with goalies though...Byron Dafoe, Jim Carrey, Kevin Weekes all had early success and became duds.
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Wow, you guys got a nice active thread for NHL.

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Scratch that comment about playoff style hockey....its a friggin route in Boston tonight. So much for "Win it for Max" he must be hated in the dressing room
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Wow, you guys got a nice active thread for NHL.

Canucks fan here. I see KleptoKlown is as well
Pretty easy team to cheer for right now...and probably the years to come.

Welcome to the forums.
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Bruins 7-0 vs Canadiens.

More happy that the Bruins kept on attacking even after taking the early lead and didn't start blowing the lead or slacked off on the defense like the last meeting and previous couple of games.

The 3 on 5 short handed goal had to be the worst goal given away by Montreal tonight.
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That's what happens when a heartless team tries to step it up.
 
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Hiller is looking...good...

6 saves on 9 shots.
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Ducks could be a scary darkhorse team in the playoffs...if Hiller plays like he can.

Dan Ellis/Ray Emery = 1st round loss...no matter who plays in front of you. Ellis has been playing good since being traded from TB, but still, he's not going to win a 7 game series.
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ouch....talk about a cold streak at close to the worst possible time.

Habs are a better team than this. This loss is either going to motivate them...or kill whatever is left of their spirit.
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