NHL 2010-2011 Season Thread

[KleptoKlown]

Originally Posted by MVP I hope it kills it cause even though the B's blew them out last night, I still don't want them to face the Habs in the first round of the playoffs.

Even though a lot of my all time favorite players were Bruins. I'd cheer for the Habs in that series. Been a long time since Canada has won a cup...bet some posters on here were not even born yet...Canucks are the best chance in a long time I think, but still, it looks like Montreal is going to be the only other Canadian team.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by KleptoKlown Even though a lot of my all time favorite players were Bruins. I'd cheer for the Habs in that series. Been a long time since Canada has won a cup...bet some posters on here were not even born yet...Canucks are the best chance in a long time I think, but still, it looks like Montreal is going to be the only other Canadian team.

What? Is 17 years really that long? I guess it has been a 'long' time by the standards they had set prior but when US teams outnumber Canadian ones like 4 to 1 they're bound to win more. And you have to take into account how great the Red Wings have been over the past 20 years so that basically negates the ability for the western Canadian teams' ability to win.

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This whole Gretzky/Lemieux discussion is absurd. 99 is retired league wide for a reason; the Hockey Hall of Fame stopped waiving the waiting period (outside of humanitarian reasons) after Gretzky's retirement. Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player ever. The only other player who's even in the discussion is Bobby Orr and even then it's generally B's fans who throw his name out there.

[KleptoKlown]

Originally Posted by Sean What? Is 17 years really that long? I guess it has been a 'long' time by the standards they had set prior but when US teams outnumber Canadian ones like 4 to 1 they're bound to win more. And you have to take into account how great the Red Wings have been over the past 20 years so that basically negates the ability for the western Canadian teams' ability to win. ... This whole Gretzky/Lemieux discussion is absurd. 99 is retired league wide for a reason; the Hockey Hall of Fame stopped waiving the waiting period (outside of humanitarian reasons) after Gretzky's retirement. Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player ever. The only other player who's even in the discussion is Bobby Orr and even then it's generally B's fans who throw his name out there.

17 years is a long time for Canada, not just the Habs.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by KleptoKlown 17 years is a long time for Canada, not just the Habs.

The established standard of winning was rooted in the exclusivity right to players that existed before the draft and the carryover even after. With more teams in the USA the success was bound to diminish.

[LoDownM]

Originally Posted by Sean ... This whole Gretzky/Lemieux discussion is absurd. 99 is retired league wide for a reason; the Hockey Hall of Fame stopped waiving the waiting period (outside of humanitarian reasons) after Gretzky's retirement. Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player ever. The only other player who's even in the discussion is Bobby Orr and even then it's generally B's fans who throw his name out there.

Going to be a waste to argue a "what if" and I'll probably be called a "Pens Fanboy" but, Gretzky also played 570ish more games then Lemieux did. Not trying to say Gretzky's records are just because he played more games or anything like that, but had Lemieux played 570 more games and kept playing at the level he had been in the 90s, 66 might be retired league wide too.



Off topic but talking about the hall of fame reminds me that I hate myself for not going to the Hall of Fame when I was in Toronto 5 years ago.