*Official WrestleMania XXVII Thread - The Biggest WrestleMania Ever*

[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by Mjdiesel OK. That comes across as code for "WM is fine, everyone has too much time on there hands to appreciate what good product is and should just take it in stride and be complacent with unorganized execution, lackluster writing, and shoddy celebrity placement." I see your concern for people doing that, but no one's being a "Hater". If you think having a WHC match first, a ranting Rock monologue that could have been on Raw, Pee Wee Herman pissing all over one of the greatest promos in the business ever, Great Khali and Kelly Kelly in Grease, Roddy Piper getting an extremely undeserved " 'who the fuck are you', silent acknowledgment from the crowd in his quick cameo, JR calling matches like he has a gun to his head, Michael Cole being put over an unappreciated employee like Lawler, the US title belt match being compromised and two guys humiliated, Rock appearing once every 37 minutes and Sunny not even being used at all and a contradictory treatment of a Royal Rumble winner from nowhere getting push to look like an asshole at the end, and an underwhelming Taker/HHH match a solid Wrestlemania, more power to you. We can agree to disagree, no one's saying you're right or wrong. Just, you know, some of us notice these things. Especially when we're paying 57 dollars.

Some of your complaints are legit, I agree. The PeeWee thing I could've seriously done without, as well as the whole Snoop segment. However, I don't really think you can bitch about the crowd or writers for not giving Piper the type of crowd reaction you think he "deserved". I personally loved the Taker/HHH match. Was it a perfect WM, no. However, over all, I think this was worth my $57.

If you don't think it was worth it, do something productive about it. Stop watching their programming and don't buy Mania or any other PPV's this next year. Trust me, if that many people were legitimately dissatisfied and actually stopped buying/watching, they would make changes to try and improve their product eventually. It's simple business, economics and capitalism folks.

[Mjdiesel]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ Some of your complaints are legit, I agree. The PeeWee thing I could've seriously done without, as well as the whole Snoop segment. However, I don't really think you can bitch about the crowd or writers for not giving Piper the type of crowd reaction you think he "deserved". I personally loved the Taker/HHH match. Was it a perfect WM, no. However, over all, I think this was worth my $57. If you don't think it was worth it, do something productive about it. Stop watching their programming and don't buy Mania or any other PPV's this next year. Trust me, if that many people were legitimately dissatisfied and actually stopped buying/watching, they would make changes to try and improve their product eventually. It's simple business, economics and capitalism folks.

Will you at least admit that they stopped trying a little? Maybe I;m being too sentimental for my own good. Am I that much of an old fart thinking that they could be as spot on like they were with a WMIII or X7? Is it that uncompromising of me to say I've seen college plays assembled better than this evening?

And love him or hate him, Piper's WWE royalty. And this is coming from a non Piper fan!

[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by Mjdiesel Will you at least admit that they stopped trying a little? Maybe I;m being too sentimental for my own good. Am I that much of an old fart thinking that they could be as spot on like they were with a WMIII or X7? Is it that uncompromising of me to say I've seen college plays assembled better than this evening? And love him or hate him, Piper's WWE royalty. And this is coming from a non Piper fan!

Oh I agree, I've been one of the biggest critics ever around here and some of the writing/decisions they've made in recent years just boggle the mind. Coming off of the high of the "biggest" periods in wrestling (or most businesses) it's a hard thing to keep all the fans satisfied.

I think some of it has to do with the fact that they're more and more becoming, or trying to become, a "legit", global entertainment company, and not just a wrestling company.

They're in a strange transition period IMO and it seems they're no longer about developing and promoting a wrestling show/product, and more about developing and promoting their "superstars" and their relationships with third parties, like sponsors, movies/DVD's, products like toys, etc. When you expand as a business, your prior products will often begin to suffer in quality.