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Old 05-05-2011, 03:36 PM   #41
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And yeah, Tazz has back/neck problems and just can't wrestle anymore.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:37 PM   #42
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Whoops. Totally forgot this guy. Don't think anyone has ever had as much potential as him, only for WWE to screw him up big time.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:39 PM   #43
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I don't get how anyone could say RVD was misused. Granted it took awhile, he was world champ and ECW champ, and he blew it for getting busted driving while high. His own fault.
Because for all that time it took to him get to the championship, he was consistantly over, consistantly putting on good matches, and consistantly thrown into shitty angles and tag teams made up of two singles guys who had nothing to do.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:40 PM   #44
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I love D'Lo, he was great on BTR, but he was never going anywhere after the Droz incident.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:44 PM   #46
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Because for all that time it took to him get to the championship, he was consistantly over, consistantly putting on good matches, and consistantly thrown into shitty angles and tag teams made up of two singles guys who had nothing to do.
Fair enough. Although I don't think RVD was ever going to be as big as RVD fans thing he should have been. The guy has awful mic skills. He got to the main event on in ring talent alone, which is impressive.He's very similar to Jeff Hardy in that regard, and to a lesser extent Mysterio.

I think it's worse though when WWE drops the ball on even getting someone over. People like Zack Ryder, Daniel Bryan, Sean O'Haire, Randy Orton with his first title run, etc. I hate it when the potential is there, in theory, and WWE just doesn't do anything with it at all. At least RVD was on tv having great matches and entertaining the crowd.
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Not signing this man is dropping the ball. Just saying.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:49 PM   #48
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:10 PM   #49
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I don't want to stir up anything here, because it was more of a forced situation than WWE dropping the ball, but I honestly felt that at the time he was bumped off TV, Muhammad Hassan could've been World Champ by now, possibly multi-time.

Dunno for sure though. Definitely an interesting character...too bad he won't even consider returning.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:09 PM   #50
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I couldn't agree with this one more.
For his size and "look", Tajiri did tremendously well. He was always on tv and although he wasn't the primary focus of many feuds or angles, he got over with the crowd. Check out how many titles he won:

World Tag Team Championship (1 time)
WCW Cruiserweight Championship (1 time)
WCW United States Championship (1 time)
WWE Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Eddie Guerrero
WWE Cruiserweight Championship (3 times)
WWF Light Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

It's reassuring to know he left on good terms and could come back at any point.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:12 PM   #51
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Tajiri was an Awesome heel when he was cruiserweight champ, feuding with Rey and had Akio and that other one with him.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:04 PM   #52
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:17 PM   #53
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For some guys size is everything. Not everybody can be a super-over world champ like Orton, Cena, Rock, Triple H, Austin and Taker, and besides WWE has proven over and over again that whether they're face or heel, everybody loves a gigantic monster who kicks ass.

That's why I'm hoping this new run on SD! will turn Henry back into the uber-monster heel that he was designed to play.
But most people don't like a monster who gets his arse kicked...over and over again...in a small space of time...with relative ease. WWF/E have tried to reinvent the Big Show time and time again, whether it be by turning him, giving him a new ring attire or pairing him up in a tag team.

Don't get me wrong, Show in my opinion was used correctly when he was first brought in to WCW as The Giant. When he got to WWF he was handled all wrong (also see Chris Jericho). Show has to shoulder a lot of the blame for not being the best that he can be. He got fatter and fatter and indeed fatter. He could of been so much better in WWF/E.

As I mentioned before, just because Show won the title more than once doesn't mean he was a sure-fire success. Vince loves big men. Great Khali is a former world champion. Was/is he a success?

Many people have mentioned DDP and Raven in their lists: DDP, after getting his arse handed to him by The Undertaker (and 'Taker's Gonzo-esque now ex-wife Sara) and given that goofy yet somewhat humerous ''That's a good thing.'' gimmick, won the WWF European Championship and got a clean pinfall win at WrestleMania X8. Raven held the WWF Hardcore Title more than anyone else. Are these guys success stories?

In regards to Henry...he was just damn lucky he was signed to such a well-paid long-term contract when he started with the WWF. He and Hardcore Holly are two individuals who where pushed right down fans throats and never got over. Never. Not once. The closest Henry got to a noticable fan reaction was when he was trying to get in to Chyna's knickers during his 'Sexual Chocolate' phase. An uncharismatic 400lb waste of time, money and space.
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Tajiri was an Awesome heel when he was cruiserweight champ, feuding with Rey and had Akio and that other one with him.
The other one's name was Sakoda.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:59 PM   #55
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Rhyno.

He could cut a mean fucking promo in ECW, so WWE proceeded to give him zero mic time. Was an above average wrestler too.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:03 PM   #56
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Whatever ever happened to Nathan Jones? Was he too green or did WWE drop the ball on him?
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:10 PM   #57
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surprised nobody mentioned this guy yet
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:13 PM   #58
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Those promos with Nathan Jones talking inside a prison cell were badass. Too bad he was one of the most shittest wokers since Giant Gonzalez. He totally fluffed up a spin-kick on his debut run-in, the sequence of which had to be re-shot I believe. It was downhill from there. He did a interview backstage where he tried to come across as a dangerous psycho, saying ''tick tock'' or something and came across as a card carrying jackass.
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Someone did, they just didn't list those promos. Not that they were terrible or anything, but they weren't anything to write home about either.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:50 PM   #61
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Yeah myself and probably someone else mentioned O'Haire. His vignettes were something special. Had a great look and could move very well for a man of his size. Then they put him with Roddy Piper which was a total mismatch. That time Piper yanked off Zach Gowen's false leg and O'Haire left the ring in shock. Such a huge cock up.
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Nathan Jones couldn't hack the WWE schedule so he buggered off but he was naff anyways.

D'Lo Brown
Paul Burchill
Mike Awesome
Sean O'Haire
Mark Jindrak
DDP
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Taka Michinoku
Mr. Kennedy
Ultimo Dragon
Lance Storm
Kaval
Frankie Kazarian
Simon Dean

Too many to name.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:51 PM   #63
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I did. I even posted a picture! It's at the top of this page. How did you miss it?
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:01 PM   #65
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Nathan Jones couldn't hack the WWE schedule so he buggered off but he was naff anyways.

D'Lo Brown
Paul Burchill
Mike Awesome
Sean O'Haire
Mark Jindrak
DDP
Billy Kidman
Taka Michinoku
Mr. Kennedy
Ultimo Dragon
Lance Storm
Kaval
Frankie Kazarian
Simon Dean

Too many to name.


Waht

Most of those guys had like 6587 gimmicks and didnt get over in any.

Kennedy liked teh roids too much.

Nova was fucking awesome though. Fuck WWE for giving him that ghey gym rat gimmick. Although that was a cult classic in itself.
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Everytime I see this kind of thread I automatically think of Ultimo Dragon, Kevin Thorn and in particular Sean O'Haire.

Recently I would actually say the Miz to an extent.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:27 PM   #67
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Somebody mention Kevin Fertig aka Thorn but if anything they screwed up with Mordecai they could have done so much more with him.
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Only when they gave him that "not boring/too serious anymore" gimmick with that shitty ass disco music and a new tron vid. Jesus that was painful to watch.
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Somebody mention Kevin Fertig aka Thorn but if anything they screwed up with Mordecai they could have done so much more with him.
I agree. He and Undertaker would've made a great feud.
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:49 PM   #72
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He could cut a mean fucking promo in ECW, so WWE proceeded to give him zero mic time. Was an above average wrestler too.
They seemed like they were going to do something with him before he got injured after the Invasion, last ever ECW champion before the buyout.
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D'Lo Brown
Paul Burchill
Mike Awesome
Sean O'Haire
Mark Jindrak
DDP
Billy Kidman
Taka Michinoku
Mr. Kennedy
Ultimo Dragon
Lance Storm
Kaval
Frankie Kazarian
Simon Dean

Too many to name.
A lot of the wrestlers above are good workers and could get jobs anywhere in the world. As far as "dropping the ball" i.e. missing a huge opportunity, I don't think you're right. There are plenty of other guys who are interchangeable with those I've crossed out.

Mike Awesome was 2 years too late for the WWE. If he had came across from ECW with his reputation still intact, and not blemished by the horrible gimmicks he had in WCW, and during the Attitude era, he really could have been something.

Ultimo Dragon is a god, and should have been as popular as Rey. The problem was that he didn't connect with WWE audience (few Japanese guys do) and at the first sign of doubt, the WWE shipped the guy out. Unfortunately, if Sin Cara doesn't start gathering some momentum, he'll go the same way.

Lance Storm was the finest worker in the world for a long period. His ability alone should have meant he was working with the same guys Eddie Guerrero was. People will always point to his limited charisma. In reality, he was one gimmick change away from being a silent but deadly bad-ass like Benoit.

I have a soft spot for Kazarian. He's one of the few guys that TNA have made into stars, and is rightfully now amongst the top of the pile. In WWE he was picking up a few clean victories, albeit it on Velocity. A total waste and oversight of a guy who by all means could have been as useful as Ziggler or Morrison are now.

...and we pretty much all agree here on TPWW that O'Haire was the biggest thing that never happened to wrestling.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:11 PM   #75
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Gah! That Sean O'Haire gimmick was incredible.

Also, watching that Boogeyman video makes the guys on Tough Enough now seem so much worse. lol. There's no one that even has a thimble full of charisma and intensity compared to that man. Can you imagine him in one of those bottom 3 segments with Austin!?
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:14 PM   #76
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:16 PM   #77
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:02 PM   #78
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:36 AM   #79
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Wade Barrett. He had the potential to be a solid main eventer last year. Fortunately he is still young and is only really beginning his career so he may still get there yet.
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:20 AM   #80
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The sad thing with Wade Barrett is that like most of the other people who've been mentioned in this thread, his major chance may have been and gone.

Someone said a while back about a psychological tactic WWE use (or maybe use) in which by pushing someone, and then depushing them to make them start from scratch, it's a good time to see if that person is a team player and can handle the big feuds and the crappy going-nowhere matches.

Whilst this seems like a good idea, it's also shit, because as Autobahn said, last year Barrett could have exploded as a legit main event talent. Now with all his crappy angles he has going on right now, he may never get that momentum back. And in the world of WWE, if you're not 'performing' in their eyes, you're fucked.
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