Alex Riley is the worst wrestler today...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan So... him "surviviing" being "drafted" from Raw to Smackdown to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz means something to you. You realize the draft isn't real, right? lol. He was written to be drafted over to Smackdown. It wasn't like there was some crazy draft that messed up WWE's plans and they were like "Fuck it! This man's a star! We're gonna keep him on Raw aligned with The Miz dammit!!!" Just the fact that you alluded to him "surviving a draft to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz" just... I don't even know what to say about that. Jesus Christ. lol

No, the fact is the WWE has plans for him on SmackDown! -- yet they still want to use him on RAW. Jesus Christ. lol

Pull your head out of your ass an realise that people in management see dollar signs in A-Ri.

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan Also, I could say the same about him being "technically fired" from his position. Again... you realize it was a storyline. He wasn't ever actually fired. WWE didn't have to work around it to "keep him employed as Miz' apprentice". He didn't "survive" anything. Seriously. This is all proving my point of people wanting to add significance to someone and make a new "obvious future star."

You could, but it'd make you a retard. The WWE planned to scrap Riley from his role, but then said "Oh shit! The guy is really good in it! Let's keep him there." The storyline is the fucking point. In the written storyline, the WWE WANTS Alex Riley to be involved with The Miz, even when The Miz is heading into a WrestleMania main event.

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan Lol. I'm guessing you don't see the irony in calling someone who has doubts about someone being a future star a mark... But anyway, I've addressed the "But he's paired with THE MIZ!!! HE HAS TO BE A SUPERSTAR IN THE MAKING!!!" argument so many times in this thread. Being the lackey (Anyone who tries to call him anything more than a lackey at this point is a mark!!!) of The Miz does not mean ANYTHING when it comes to him being a superstar.

It means the WWE want Alex Riley to be associated with a top star, and have no problem with him being featured in that role. It's a good thing. Anyone who thinks that Riley is "just a lackey" is buying into what the WWE is presenting them -- they're a mark (not that that's a bad thing -- makes enjoying the product a lot easier).

Now, I've got no real problem with you, man, we've coexisted around here peacefully for a long time, and I feel your posts add more than they take away -- but please don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot when YOU are the one not getting it. Of course it's all a storyline -- but they've CHOSEN A-Ri specifically for these storylines. You imply that I don't get it's a storyline, but then you ask "Did you ever just think that they paired The Miz up with whoever his NXT rookie was?" Well, why did they choose A-Ri to be The Miz's NXT rookie? Because the two have glaringly similar personas that mesh well, and have continued to mesh well through a WrestleMania main event up until today (despite Riley not technically being a part of the RAW roster anymore).

If you can't see the WWE are grooming A-Ri, you are a moron. If you think the WWE would trust anyone to go into the ring and work with Stone Cold Steve Austin in this day and age -- well, I personally think you are trying to hard to NOT accept that someone, somewhere, with more of a say than you or I, has a massive hard-on for Alex Riley. And although I don't watch RAW much, from what I have seen, the guy seems extra smooth out there. He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in a spot that many guys can't handle. Ever. They just can't. Sure, this could be the high-point of Riley's WWE career, but if he becomes more solid in the ring, and even better on the mic, and stops drink-driving -- then I personally believe the guy will have a bright future in the WWE. And the evidence, as much as you try to ignore it, is on my side.

[#1-norm-fan]

Originally Posted by Noid No, the fact is the WWE has plans for him on SmackDown! -- yet they still want to use him on RAW. Jesus Christ. lol Pull your head out of your ass an realise that people in management see dollar signs in A-Ri.

They see dollar signs in Yoshi Tatsu. That's why he's fucking employed. lol. They see dollar signs in David Otunga... Curt Hawkins... Hornswoggle... Doesn't mean it's retarded to pick the most mundane little storyline twists and be like "OMG THIS MEANS HE'S THE NEXT BIG THING YESSSSSSS!!!"

Originally Posted by Noid You could, but it'd make you a retard. The WWE planned to scrap Riley from his role, but then said "Oh shit! The guy is really good in it! Let's keep him there." The storyline is the fucking point. In the written storyline, the WWE WANTS Alex Riley to be involved with The Miz, even when The Miz is heading into a WrestleMania main event.

So to get this straight... assuming that they didn't go from "We're gonna drop him, we're done with him and Miz" to "OMG HE'S SO GOOD! LET'S KEEP IT GOING!" in one week and actually had the whole thing as part of a storyline (even if it was a lame one)... retarded.

If you say "They wanted him heading into WM with The Miz", you atleast have some kind of a point. But NO. You have to claim that WWE... planned to scrap Alex Riley (I don't think that was the case, but if you do, that doesn't actually help your point.), actually went through with it, and then in that one week between Raws said "Oh shit! The guy is really good! Let's keep him there."? ... not retarded, right? So, that's 100% the way it all went down I guess. lol

That would be grasping at a straw to make yourself believe Riley is destined for something amazing. You jump on the "NO YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM AS WWE'S CASH COW OF THE FUTURE! NO STOP SAYIN HE WON'T BE!!! LALALALALALALALALAL! RETARD GRR!!! LALALALALALA!!!" Just like I've been explaining this whole time.

Originally Posted by Noid It means the WWE want Alex Riley to be associated with a top star, and have no problem with him being featured in that role. It's a good thing. Anyone who thinks that Riley is "just a lackey" is buying into what the WWE is presenting them -- they're a mark (not that that's a bad thing -- makes enjoying the product a lot easier). Now, I've got no real problem with you, man, we've coexisted around here peacefully for a long time, and I feel your posts add more than they take away -- but please don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot when YOU are the one not getting it. Of course it's all a storyline -- but they've CHOSEN A-Ri specifically for these storylines. You imply that I don't get it's a storyline, but then you ask "Did you ever just think that they paired The Miz up with whoever his NXT rookie was?" Well, why did they choose A-Ri to be The Miz's NXT rookie? Because the two have glaringly similar personas that mesh well, and have continued to mesh well through a WrestleMania main event up until today (despite Riley not technically being a part of the RAW roster anymore). If you can't see the WWE are grooming A-Ri, you are a moron. If you think the WWE would trust anyone to go into the ring and work with Stone Cold Steve Austin in this day and age -- well, I personally think you are trying to hard to NOT accept that someone, somewhere, with more of a say than you or I, has a massive hard-on for Alex Riley. And although I don't watch RAW much, from what I have seen, the guy seems extra smooth out there. He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in a spot that many guys can't handle. Ever. They just can't. Sure, this could be the high-point of Riley's WWE career, but if he becomes more solid in the ring, and even better on the mic, and stops drink-driving -- then I personally believe the guy will have a bright future in the WWE. And the evidence, as much as you try to ignore it, is on my side.

If he becomes more solid in the ring and better on the mic, he has a solid future in WWE. If this is your stance... we really don't need to discuss it. That pretty much goes without saying. I do watch Raw though. He has work to do. You can't predict potential though skill-wise. He could have topped out. No one knows.

And I do watch Raw weekly. And he is The Miz' lackey. Whether you think that's "markishly buying into what WWE is trying to make me believe" or not. He comes to the ring with The Miz and stands there... very rarely given the chance to showcase these ring and mic skills that everyone seems to be so sure WWE sees in him. He is there a lot of the time to get beaten down by someone so Miz can escape the fight. That is a lackey. In every sense of the word.

Guys have been paired with people way more over than them before and it's gone on to mean absolutely nothing. Him being paired with The Miz alone means little more than WWE likes Miz having a lackey and Riley is good at that job. It could mean more. To just make up this fantasy world of things WWE has planned for him by taking any little thing he has done and turning it into "Oh, they did that because he's gonna be a huge superstar" is an example of blind markishness for the guy. When he's main eventing, putting on actual wrestling matches that show whatever skill he may have and giving promos that don't include him awkwardly calling John Cena a toilet, THEN I'm right there with you and others on the A-Ri bandwagon. Til then, he's just Miz' lackey.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan They see dollar signs in Yoshi Tatsu. That's why he's fucking employed. lol. They see dollar signs in David Otunga... Curt Hawkins... Hornswoggle... Doesn't mean it's retarded to pick the most mundane little storyline twists and be like "OMG THIS MEANS HE'S THE NEXT BIG THING YESSSSSSS!!!" So to get this straight... assuming that they didn't go from "We're gonna drop him, we're done with him and Miz" to "OMG HE'S SO GOOD! LET'S KEEP IT GOING!" in one week and actually had the whole thing as part of a storyline (even if it was a lame one)... retarded. If you say "They wanted him heading into WM with The Miz", you atleast have some kind of a point. But NO. You have to claim that WWE... planned to scrap Alex Riley (I don't think that was the case, but if you do, that doesn't actually help your point.), actually went through with it, and then in that one week between Raws said "Oh shit! The guy is really good! Let's keep him there."? ... not retarded, right? So, that's 100% the way it all went down I guess. lol That would be grasping at a straw to make yourself believe Riley is destined for something amazing. You jump on the "NO YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM AS WWE'S CASH COW OF THE FUTURE! NO STOP SAYIN HE WON'T BE!!! LALALALALALALALALAL! RETARD GRR!!! LALALALALALA!!!" Just like I've been explaining this whole time. If he becomes more solid in the ring and better on the mic, he has a solid future in WWE. If this is your stance... we really don't need to discuss it. That pretty much goes without saying. I do watch Raw though. He has work to do. You can't predict potential though skill-wise. He could have topped out. No one knows. And I do watch Raw weekly. And he is The Miz' lackey. Whether you think that's "markishly buying into what WWE is trying to make me believe" or not. He comes to the ring with The Miz and stands there... very rarely given the chance to showcase these ring and mic skills that everyone seems to be so sure WWE sees in him. He is there a lot of the time to get beaten down by someone so Miz can escape the fight. That is a lackey. In every sense of the word. Guys have been paired with people way more over than them before and it's gone on to mean absolutely nothing. Him being paired with The Miz alone means little more than WWE likes Miz having a lackey and Riley is good at that job. It could mean more. To just make up this fantasy world of things WWE has planned for him by taking any little thing he has done and turning it into "Oh, they did that because he's gonna be a huge superstar" is an example of blind markishness for the guy. When he's main eventing, putting on actual wrestling matches that show whatever skill he may have and giving promos that don't include him awkwardly calling John Cena a toilet, THEN I'm right there with you and others on the A-Ri bandwagon. Til then, he's just Miz' lackey.

CSL said it best. Lol wow, indeed.

I've never said that Alex Riley is the next big star -- I've merely said that the WWE sees potential in him, and is obviously grooming him for a top spot. That's why he's in that position when guys like Yoshi Tatsu, Curt Hawkins and Hornswoggle aren't.

I don't know what you other points even mean. The WWE wants A-Ri to be associated with a main eventer. If you can't understand why that is a good thing, or why appearing at every PPV in an active role is a good thing, and that the storyline of being a lackey is getting the guy exposure -- I can't help you. I really can't help you.