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Old 07-14-2011, 03:56 AM   #81
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loopy, what four year span are you considering? I can't find four years, or even two years, where he was cutting the same typical promo, match, and run-in. But of course, he did do that from time to time.

and cody rhodes has been tremendous since his return from injury.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:57 AM   #82
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I can't be bothered reading the various posts before this... but I'd like to comment regardless.

Cody has come a long way in the last year. I would like his Phantom-ish gimmick to blossom, and for him to live underneath the ring and give advice to Ted while he wrestles.

That is all...
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:57 AM   #83
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Ah, I just realised, he could use Undertaker's trap door!
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:22 AM   #84
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I thought that space was reserved for Little People's Court.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:16 AM   #85
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loopy, what four year span are you considering? I can't find four years, or even two years, where he was cutting the same typical promo, match, and run-in. But of course, he did do that from time to time.

and cody rhodes has been tremendous since his return from injury.
As entertaining as he was, from the time he broke his neck in '97 until his heel turn in '01, you could set your watch by Austin segments.
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I tend to remember being quite bored with Austin at one point. The Rock, too.
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Definately for The Rock. At least Cody doesn't have 6 catchphrases that provide the foundation for all of his promos.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:20 PM   #88
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Where were you called a moron? I know that you used the word, I don't remember anybody calling you a moron though. You seem to be needlessly defensive in every thread you partake in. That's just an observation/MY OPINION, not a flame by the way.

Also, surely the term "marking out" by definition means that you don't have to give a rational explanation? Dunno. Maye I'm wrong there.
Sure, maybe you never directly called me a moron, but you and others implied it by bashing my POV and saying it didn't make sense. Especially as it related to using the Austin/Rock analogy. Which btw had more to do with him being a comfortable mic speaker than being the next Austin or Rock. I never said he needed to be another Austin or Rock. In fact, I did say every wrestler has their own style. Meaning, either you didn't read my post or you only read certain parts of my replies.

I don't necessarily think I'm being defensive by standing by my statements. If being defensive means being willing to debate or discuss a character's weakness objectively, then yeah I guess you could label me as defensive.

And to me, marking out for someone means liking a wrestler for obvious reasons. I suppose you could mark out for no reason, but it makes more sense to me to like wrestlers for their positives...



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For the record, I like Cody because despite his lack of size he has 'presence'. A lot of that is because of his mic work, which, for a guy with a speak impediment, is pretty "amazing".

His delivery is solid pretty much 100% of the time, he handles what is a fairly "difficult" character very well AND he is good in the ring.

We've established that noboby thinks he is the next Austin/Rock, but I am enjoying his work in the MIDCARD - where interesting characters are very rare.
I do agree given his size and speech impediment, Cody has a good presence. His mic work is good, but in order for him to break through the "glass ceiling" so to speak, he has to progress more. He would make for a great IC Champion.

His promo delivery is good, but IMO he overacts and yells too much to get his point across. As far as his deformed hideous character is concerned, to me, it's too close to Kane's unmasking gimmick.

I don't even think he's the next Austin or Rock, but he does have to step it up on the mic in order to be a top superstar. When he can reach that comfort level on the mic as Austin or Rock, he'll truly be an elite superstar. I do agree I'm enjoying his mid card work, and by all rights should be IC Champ now. I'm not disagreeing there, but he could be so much more if he progressed more consistently...
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:31 PM   #89
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My opinion hasn't changed since the last Cody Rhodes thread: I like him, but I wish he would wear kneepads. He looks weird/semi-naked when you can see his bear knees.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:34 PM   #90
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You don't think Austin was complacent?

I mean, don't get me wrong, he's one of the best of all-time (although I hate his guts), but he cut the same promo, had the same match, and did the same run-in for about four years.
To a degree Austin was complacent after the Monday Night Wars and his neck surgery. But, his comfort level on the mic and his ability to ad lib made for alot of unforgettable promos. That's the only reason I used Austin as a comparison to Cody Rhodes. Once Cody can be as comfortable and creative on the mic as an Austin or Rock, he'll be a major superstar.

I will agree alot of his material is similar, but his reactions and delivery are the things that made him unique. Pretty much being able to cut a promo without a script is impressive in itself. Austin's work on the mic may have been predictable, but at least his stuff got the proper reactions. Look at Cena trying to go off the script. His cheesy jokes and lame attempts at ad libbing make you see how good Austin or Rock were in their days,,,
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:58 PM   #91
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Sure, maybe you never directly called me a moron, but you and others implied it by bashing my POV and saying it didn't make sense. Especially as it related to using the Austin/Rock analogy. Which btw had more to do with him being a comfortable mic speaker than being the next Austin or Rock. I never said he needed to be another Austin or Rock. In fact, I did say every wrestler has their own style. Meaning, either you didn't read my post or you only read certain parts of my replies.

I don't necessarily think I'm being defensive by standing by my statements. If being defensive means being willing to debate or discuss a character's weakness objectively, then yeah I guess you could label me as defensive.

And to me, marking out for someone means liking a wrestler for obvious reasons. I suppose you could mark out for no reason, but it makes more sense to me to like wrestlers for their positives...
The words in bold is exactly what you've been doing throughout this whole thread. Also, ABT wasn't being defensive by standing by his statements. He was just trying to make sure you understood that you only read part of his post and only parts of his replies. Also, a person can mark out with no reason whatsoever. That's what makes it marking out. Troll on.
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I'm still not sure how captaincharismark feels about Cody/his mic skills. Can somebody run it by me again?
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Old 07-15-2011, 06:22 PM   #94
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I'm still not sure how captaincharismark feels about Cody/his mic skills. Can somebody run it by me again?

Funny how I'M the one NOT READING replies throughly here
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You claimed Cody was "amazing" and I don't think he's earned it yet
The logic in this statement is baffling and almost "hilarious", but I don't think you've earned "hilarious" just yet.
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Funny how I'M the one NOT READING replies throughly here
Looks like my sarcasm has gone straight over your head. Bit of role reversal there.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:23 PM   #98
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Looks like my sarcasm has gone straight over your head. Bit of role reversal there.
Obviously there's a thin line between sarcasm and being a dumbass. I'm pretty sure any logic or actual discussion has long been discarded. It's clear petty shot taking and lame attempts at being funny take precedent over any intelligent talk about wrestling. When someone doesn't agree with all the 16 year old smarks here, they'd rather react in a childish manner than stay on topic...
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Obviously there's a thin line between sarcasm and being a dumbass. I'm pretty sure any logic or actual discussion has long been discarded. It's clear petty shot taking and lame attempts at being funny take precedent over any intelligent talk about wrestling. When someone doesn't agree with all the 16 year old smarks here, they'd rather react in a childish manner than stay on topic...
You're making yourself look really, really stupid.
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Obviously there's a thin line between sarcasm and being a dumbass. I'm pretty sure any logic or actual discussion has long been discarded. It's clear petty shot taking and lame attempts at being funny take precedent over any intelligent talk about wrestling. When someone doesn't agree with all the 16 year old smarks here, they'd rather react in a childish manner than stay on topic...
Dude following the topic of the thread went out the window when you went off on a tangent on the word amazing. You think you're being clever but everyone here sees your clear and blatant attempts at trolling this thread. Hell, a poster here used to have a reputation of completely owning posters like you when they pulled shit like this. In short:
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You're making yourself look really, really stupid.
On Topic: I liked the way Cody did his finisher on Smackdown.
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I'm gonna have to agree with captaincharismark here. I love me some Cody Rhodes, but i think "amazing" is kind of a stretch.
I kind of agree also, but I think people like him really just stand out when so much seems unimpressive.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:56 PM   #103
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Dude following the topic of the thread went out the window when you went off on a tangent on the word amazing. You think you're being clever but everyone here sees your clear and blatant attempts at trolling this thread. Hell, a poster here used to have a reputation of completely owning posters like you when they pulled shit like this.
No, I think the thread topic went off the second I disagreed with Cody being called amazing. I explained why I didn't believe he was amazing, then all the spammers here started bashing me for my opinion. Hell, ABT even suggested changing the thread topic b/c he was too lazy to properly discuss my difference of opinion.

I can respect if someone thinks Cody Rhodes is amazing, b/c he is a great mid carder right now. But, bashing me for my opinion is "trolling" this thread, not me adding my two cents. My purpose here was to objectively discuss why I believe Cody isn't amazing now. If that's perceived as trolling, then screw this so called discussion. It's apparent assholes here would rather "own" someone than add any insight into this discussion. Oh well, fuck it...:foc:
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No, I think the thread topic went off the second I disagreed with Cody being called amazing. I explained why I didn't believe he was amazing, then all the spammers here started bashing me for my opinion. Hell, ABT even suggested changing the thread topic b/c he was too lazy to properly discuss my difference of opinion.

I can respect if someone thinks Cody Rhodes is amazing, b/c he is a great mid carder right now. But, bashing me for my opinion is "trolling" this thread, not me adding my two cents. My purpose here was to objectively discuss why I believe Cody isn't amazing now. If that's perceived as trolling, then screw this so called discussion. It's apparent assholes here would rather "own" someone than add any insight into this discussion. Oh well, fuck it...:foc:
Dude everybody was posing their point of view except you, and you just kept at it with the same shit post after post. Pretty sure everyone got your opinion after the 6th time you stated it, but your opinion isn't gonna change anyone else's. After stating the same freakin thing so many times it becomes trolling. Get over yourself.
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Back to Cody Rhodes...his progress has been better than almost anyone in the company not named CM Punk.
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Dude everybody was posing their point of view except you, and you just kept at it with the same shit post after post. Pretty sure everyone got your opinion after the 6th time you stated it, but your opinion isn't gonna change anyone else's. After stating the same freakin thing so many times it becomes trolling. Get over yourself.

That's just the fucking point. I am over myself. I was simply posting my opinion, only to have idiots like you flame me. Funny how I'm supposedly "trolling" by stating why I do or don't like a wrestler. If explaining my POV isn't on topic, I don't know what the hell is. I never intend to change someone's opinion, only discuss something intelligently. But apparently, my expectations are too high. The discussion has long since died, making all this shit meaningless.

It's clear most in here would rather be "owning" someone than talking about Cody Rhodes. Which is a damn shame, since I feel myself and a few others had a decent discussion started.
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:27 AM   #107
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Back to Cody Rhodes...his progress has been better than almost anyone in the company not named CM Punk.
Cody has easily been the best mid card thing going now. The main drawback I see with his character is Ted Dibiase. Why add deadweight to a rising star? Although I gotta admit I'm not really a fan of his deformed psychological gimmick. His Dashing persona seemed closer to his real self, so I can't understand why they dropped it. At least that had some humor in it. I guess if the intention is to push him more seriously, it's good, but otherwise I think it was a mistake. He's not a monster like Kane, so the whole I'm a deformed psychopath thing isn't gonna work for him.

Even though I hate his character, his in ring work has been consistent...
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I never intend to change someone's opinion, only discuss something intelligently.
Feel free to start at any time you like.

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But apparently, my expectations are too high. The discussion has long since died, making all this shit meaningless.
And yet you're still here, re-posting YOUR OPINION?

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He's not a monster like Kane, so the whole I'm a deformed psychopath thing isn't gonna work for him.
It isn't? In fact, it's not already working for him?

Oh, that's right, he's not on the Austin/Rock level of awesomeness and the next step down is being run-of-the-mill, right?
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Serious business mr. Charisma. But you is wrong. Cody Rhodes is probably the best rassler with a speech impediment today. Just get some damn knee pads. BEAR knees are lame.
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:08 PM   #110
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No, I think the thread topic went off the second I disagreed with Cody being called amazing. I explained why I didn't believe he was amazing, then all the spammers here started bashing me for my opinion. Hell, ABT even suggested changing the thread topic b/c he was too lazy to properly discuss my difference of opinion.

I can respect if someone thinks Cody Rhodes is amazing, b/c he is a great mid carder right now. But, bashing me for my opinion is "trolling" this thread, not me adding my two cents. My purpose here was to objectively discuss why I believe Cody isn't amazing now. If that's perceived as trolling, then screw this so called discussion. It's apparent assholes here would rather "own" someone than add any insight into this discussion. Oh well, fuck it...:foc:
This is the last time I will say this, just in case you actually are discussing and not trolling. I made a poor word choice with the thread title. I've admitted that like forty one times already. I don't believe that Cody Rhodes is "amazing" in the sense that you don't believe he is amazing. It was just hyperbole. I do think he's pretty damn good. I wasn't "discussing (your) difference of opinion" because our opinions aren't even that fucking different.
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This is the last time I will say this, just in case you actually are discussing and not trolling. I made a poor word choice with the thread title. I've admitted that like forty one times already. I don't believe that Cody Rhodes is "amazing" in the sense that you don't believe he is amazing. It was just hyperbole. I do think he's pretty damn good. I wasn't "discussing (your) difference of opinion" because our opinions aren't even that fucking different.

But that's my whole point ABT. If you think he's amazing, then stick to your opinion. I've said all along Cody Rhodes is doing a good job in the mid card now. Just b/c amazing isn't the word I'd use to describe Cody doesn't mean you're wrong. It means you see more in Cody than I do currently. I personally thought his Dashing persona was better, but that's open to interpretation. We clearly don't see eye to eye on this issue, but that's a good thing. Discussing Cody flaws and good points ultimately gives us more perspective on where he character needs to be. Now IMO he should be IC Champ, and with more experience on the mic, even WHC if he progresses consistently...
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Serious business mr. Charisma. But you is wrong. Cody Rhodes is probably the best rassler with a speech impediment today. Just get some damn knee pads. BEAR knees are lame.
That's the one area where I think Cody is overrated. I personally think guys who are equally as limited with accents are better than Cody on the mic. For instance, Sheamus is easily my fav on the mic now, even though he has a thick Irish accent. Drew McIntyre is another good talker on the mic despite having a thick accent. While I do think Cody does good for a guy with a speech impediment, others do just as well if not better that have limitations.
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"After competing in a brutal Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Cody Rhodes takes on Intercontinental Champion Ezekiel Jackson for his title this week on SmackDown. Can Rhodes seize the opportunity, or will the "Personification of Domination" prevail?"

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"After competing in a brutal Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Cody Rhodes takes on Intercontinental Champion Ezekiel Jackson for his title this week on SmackDown. Can Rhodes seize the opportunity, or will the "Personification of Domination" prevail?"

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It's about time Cody gets an IC title shot.
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Woudn't it be amazing if he won the IC Title?

I mean, not as amazing as when Rock/Austin won it, obviosuly. But stilll pretty good I guess.
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Woudn't it be amazing if he won the IC Title?

I mean, not as amazing as when Rock/Austin won it, obviosuly. But stilll pretty good I guess.
For all the talk of me trolling in here, you sure seem to be stuck on the same thing. I'm sure you think you're being clever by using the word amazing, but really you look stupid by keeping this going. You never added any insight into this topic, so why are you still here? At least me using the Austin/Rock analogy was attempting to make a point. What's your point? To be a smartass who thinks he's funnier than he is
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I feel like a Ted DiBiase face turn is in the works, and there's an outside chance that Cody and Booker T have a go at it over the weekly paper bags.
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I dunno. I didn't do it.
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For all the talk of me trolling in here, you sure seem to be stuck on the same thing. I'm sure you think you're being clever by using the word amazing, but really you look stupid by keeping this going. You never added any insight into this topic, so why are you still here? At least me using the Austin/Rock analogy was attempting to make a point. What's your point? To be a smartass who thinks he's funnier than he is


I made my feelings known already. Unlike you I don't feel the need to keep re-posting them.

That was just a light hearted rib, lighten up a little, kid. Geez.
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