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Old 08-21-2011, 06:33 AM   #1
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Fucking hell.

This really does make me sad. I was such a huge Jeff Hardy mark when he came back for his run a few years back and finally won the WWE Title. He was having amazing matches against everyone: Morrison, Umaga, Orton, Triple H, his brother. He was on the road to becoming a true main event superstar, and it's like it didn't mean anything to him.

Matt was probably the more talented of the two brothers, and maybe it was his major mistake to leave the WWE, because it seems like he's gone nowhere but downhill since then. Matt could've potentially been a World Heavyweight Champion some day - with the right gimmick, if he got back into top physical condition. He has all of the skills, on the mic, in the ring - if Christian can do it, Matt Hardy could've done it. The only thing that's stopped him is Matt Hardy.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:05 AM   #2
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Fucking hell.

This really does make me sad. I was such a huge Jeff Hardy mark when he came back for his run a few years back and finally won the WWE Title. He was having amazing matches against everyone: Morrison, Umaga, Orton, Triple H, his brother. He was on the road to becoming a true main event superstar, and it's like it didn't mean anything to him.

Matt was probably the more talented of the two brothers, and maybe it was his major mistake to leave the WWE, because it seems like he's gone nowhere but downhill since then. Matt could've potentially been a World Heavyweight Champion some day - with the right gimmick, if he got back into top physical condition. He has all of the skills, on the mic, in the ring - if Christian can do it, Matt Hardy could've done it. The only thing that's stopped him is Matt Hardy.
He does NOT have skills on the mic. Nor does Jeff, for that matter. And without tables, ladders, and chairs involved, I wouldn't put Matt Hardy's in-ring ability at main event level.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:55 PM   #3
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He does NOT have skills on the mic. Nor does Jeff, for that matter. And without tables, ladders, and chairs involved, I wouldn't put Matt Hardy's in-ring ability at main event level.
False. Matt Hardy's "Version 1" gimmick proved that he DOES have skills on the mic, given the proper gimmick to channel his personality through. I mean, the same could be said for anyone, I suppose. Some could argue that Austin didn't have mic skills until he found "Stone Cold", or that The Rock didn't have them until he found "The Corporate Champ."

But seriously, boiling the Hardys' careers down to only being good in TLC-related matches is a really linear and close-minded way of looking at things. It completely ignores all of the amazing non-gimmick matches that they had, singles or tag team.
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False. Matt Hardy's "Version 1" gimmick proved that he DOES have skills on the mic, given the proper gimmick to channel his personality through. I mean, the same could be said for anyone, I suppose. Some could argue that Austin didn't have mic skills until he found "Stone Cold", or that The Rock didn't have them until he found "The Corporate Champ."

But seriously, boiling the Hardys' careers down to only being good in TLC-related matches is a really linear and close-minded way of looking at things. It completely ignores all of the amazing non-gimmick matches that they had, singles or tag team.
As V1 he wasn't terrible, but he still wasn't that great. A lot of his lines still felt kind of forced to me.

I didn't say anything about Jeff's in ring ability outside of TLC matches. And I didn't say matt hardy wasn't any good outside of TLC. Just not main event level. He's upper midcard at most, imo.
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The reason Jeff is still employed besides being the more marketable of the 2

IMO when he gets in trouble hes extremely quiet when Matt gets in trouble he hits the social outlets harder than a whiny teenage girl getting dumped at prom

I think TNA has a certain respect for the fact that jeff can at least fuck up and keep his mouth shut.
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