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Old 08-19-2011, 10:08 PM   #1841
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Pirates and Jose Tabata agree to what could be a 9-year extension.

6 years guarenteed that could get him $14.75 mil. and 3 option years that can get him $22.5 mil. which all rounds out to $37.25 mil.

I know we got a Pirates fan on here, I would like to know his take. Sounds like the Pirates won in this deal. But who knows, maybe Tabata isn't a greedy bastard.
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Not a Pirates fan, but...

Feel like Hunnington and co. are jumping the gun a bit. Tabata's not arbitration eligible until the 2013 season. And while I think he's a solid young player, and nice top of the order type bat, I don't think he's worth a 6-9 year deal.

I do like the initial dollar value, though. The average of the initial deal, sans the options, is less than $3mil. That's a steal no matter how you look at it.
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I'm SO not sold on Tabata:

Dude idolizes Clemente (name me ONE Dominican-born player that doesn't) and since he plays for Pittsburgh he thinks that should be enough of a reason to allow him to wear the retired #21 for even one game. I'm sure that if he actually contacted Roberto's family that between his wifely issues and the "is he 23 or is he 40?" questions they'd laugh him out of the building.

Before I can listen to people say that "He's got so much up side because he's still young" I need a solid answer to that.
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I actually think the Tabata and Neil Walker signings are a way to show McCutcheon how serious they actually are about being a competitive team for the long term and will spend money, like they haven't in the past. Same reason I loved all the deadline signings last week. At least there is an effort now to be competitive and that's all we can ask as Pirates fans.
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Sorry, CD, but buying an over the hill, not productive in 4 years and gets injured in a stiff breeze Derrek Lee, and a career .475 SLG for a "power hitter" in Ryan Ludwick seems to me to be basically paying lip service to fans who are over-the-moon delirious about a team that's adequate in a bad division experiencing a down year.
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Mets come all the way back from 7-1 down, score 3 off of K-Rod in the 8th to take a 9-7 lead...and then Isringhausen of course blows it.

I love that these Mets never quit...too bad that's not enough to keep them from sucking. Ah well. At least I have some faith that the Brewers can knock the Phillies off in the playoffs.
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If this performance doesn't send Blownett to the bullpen, I don't know what does.
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5th game in a row Wakefield can't get his 200th career win and around 3-4 times it was due to the bullpen killing his chance.

He leaves with a 4-1 lead and Albers gives away 8 runs for the Royals (4 for Wakefield, 5 for Albers)
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Pretty sure he's talking about the draft deadline signings, not the trade deadline.

And your reasons for not liking Tabata as a player are pretty dumb. Sure, his reasons for wanting #21 are dumb, but he's a nice player and signing him for that money was a good deal for the Pirates.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:49 PM   #1850
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Pretty sure he's talking about the draft deadline signings, not the trade deadline.

And your reasons for not liking Tabata as a player are pretty dumb. Sure, his reasons for wanting #21 are dumb, but he's a nice player and signing him for that money was a good deal for the Pirates.
Yea sorry for not clarifying that, yea I meant the Draft Deadline signings. Putting talent back into the minors is the first step getting back to being a stable organization.
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Padres put an ass whooping on the Marlins this evening. Kyle Blanks touched down another rocket HR. Thank you, Pirate pitchers for waking him up. He's been on fire since the Padres went to PNC.
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Cubs last 20 games, 14-6. And they've lost a game back in the standings. Unreal.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:28 PM   #1856
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Jays trade Aaron Hill and John McDonald to Arizona for Kelly Johnson.

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That's a trade that can be a win-win for both teams. Kelly Johnson has had a pretty good season in terms of power.
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Rockies claim Wandy Rodriguez off waivers and there are talks between both teams. They do aquire Kevin Kouzmanoff and cash from the A's for cash or a PTBNL.
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...The MLB Season has kind of died-down for some reason...not much interest in what's going on...it's not even about the NFL starting up or anything...even among baseball fans, there's not as much excitement about this season.
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Well there aren't many battles going on in divisions right. The teams that have been hot have been the teams leading the divisions. Both wild card spots are basically locked up too, and its not even September.
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Waiver news:

No talks going down between the Rockies and Astros about Wandy Rodriguez. Looks like he's staying put.

Giants claim Heath Bell from the Padres. With Brian Wilson on the DL again, something may happen.

Jim Thome and Jason Kubel were claimed off waivers. No word on who put in the claim.

Carlos Pena also was claimed, also no idea who got him.
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A bit surprised on the Cardinals not getting Bell because ESPN had them as front-runners to get him but makes a lot of sense if The Beard is hurt for the Giants.

ESPN is reporting the Yankees claimed Pena and White Sox have claimed Thome.

Rangers are rumored to be the ones to claim Jason Kubel.
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Highly doubt the Padres deal Bell, they want the draft picks. Think it was just the Giants blocking him from the Diamondbacks.
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Former Os GM and pitcher Mike Flanagan was found dead on his property earlier today but they aren't releasing any more details outside of that...
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Police did not immediately identify the cause of death, but sources confirmed that Flanagan took his own life "despondent over what he considered a false perception from a community he loved of his role in the team's prolonged failure," Sandusky said.The soft-spoken and well-liked left-hander grew over the years into a fixture in the Orioles organization. From 2002-08 Flanagan shared or held the top baseball executive position in the organization. During that time Flanagan, according to those closest to him, struggled with not being able to the job the way he wanted to do it, Sandusky said.A relative confirmed that Flanagan has wrestled for some time now with the perception of fans and colleagues alike of his role in the team's failures.
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Bye Carlos. Been fun. Seem like a nice guy and hits the shit out of the ball. Gotta make room for Prince.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh? Signed Hideki Matsui?

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CLEVELAND -- Jim Thome has swung back to the Cleveland Indians.

The slugger accepted a trade from Minnesota on Thursday night to return to the Indians, the team he started with and one hoping its career home run leader can help it run down the first-place Detroit Tigers in the AL Central.

An Indians season full of surprises and comeback wins has the most improbable return of all.

As he's done on more than 600 career homers, Thome has rounded the bags and is coming home.

Thome spent 12 seasons with Cleveland from 1991-2002, hitting a team-record 334 homers and helping the Indians get to two World Series. He hit 52 in his final season before signing as a free agent with Philadelphia, a decision that angered many Indians fans who will have to welcome him back.

"He's excited," Indians general manager Chris Antonetti said. "He's fired up to come back and join the team. I am hopeful and confident that fans will embrace him wearing an Indians uniform again. He's not only an exceptional player but a person as well. Even if he wasn't a person that hit 600 home runs, he's just a great person."

Earlier this month, the five-time All-Star became the eighth player in history to hit 600 homers.

The 40-year-old Thome waived a no-trade clause in his contract to clear his return to the Indians, who have been in contention all season but have lost six of their last seven games amid a rash of injuries. Thome's arrival will soften the loss of designated hitter Travis Hafner, who is on the disabled list and may need season-ending foot surgery.

The Indians put a claim in for Thome on Wednesday, two days after the Twins waived him. Once the Indians were awarded Thome, the clubs had 48 hours to work out a trade. The Twins will receive a player to be named later by Oct. 15.

Antonetti hopes Thome will arrive in time to be in the Indians' lineup Friday night. Antonetti doesn't expect Thome to play every game.

"We will have to manage his playing time," Antonetti said. "He's certainly not an everyday player at this point. We'll work with Jim on this. We'd like to have him out there to impact the team as often as we can. Every game for the team is meaningful. We are trying to win as many games as possible and we'll see where that takes us."

Thome's bat once helped Cleveland twice get close to its first Series title since 1948, and now the Indians hope it still has a little magic.

"What If?" team president Mark Shapiro tweeted, using the team's 2011 motto. "Jim Thome came home."

After finishing 25 games out in 2010, the Indians weren't expected to contend this season, but have been at or near the top of their division since April. However, as August drains to its final days, the Indians have slipped back in the standings and trail the Tigers by 6½ as they enter a three-game series against Kansas City.

The Twins are 16 games behind, which is why they decided to part with Thome, who has also played for the Chicago White Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers.

On his most recent visit to Cleveland, the Peoria, Ill., native said he would relish a chance to finish his career where it began. Thome's return will probably give the Indians an immediate attendance boost, and may help some of the fans who couldn't forgive him for leaving despite saying his Indians jersey would have to be torn off for him to go anywhere else.

A skinny third baseman when he came up, Thome, along with fellow All-Stars Sandy Alomar Jr., Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, Manny Ramirez and Carlos Baerga formed the core of the Indians' teams that dominated their division in the '90s and went to the World Series in 1995 and 1997 -- losing both times.

Thome's big swing, a blend of quickness, power and follow-through, and his aw-shucks attitude, made him one of Cleveland's most popular players. That changed, though, following the '02 season.

As a free agent, Thome turned down a generous, long-term contract from the Indians -- who even offered to build a statue in his honor -- for a chance to win in Philadelphia. At the time, he felt the Phillies were closer to a title than the Indians, who were in the early stages of a massive rebuilding project.

Thome had a memorable first season in Minnesota, leading the team with 25 homers in just 276 at-bats with the Twins in 2010. His aching back felt better than it had in years, and he was energized by the youthful energy surrounding him as he helped the Twins run away with the division crown.

Thome had several suitors as a free agent in the offseason. He ultimately decided to return to the Twins, thinking a nucleus of Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau and Michael Cuddyer would help him capture the World Series championship that has eluded him all these years. But his second season in Minnesota hasn't gone nearly as well. He has struggled with injuries to his back, toe and quadriceps that have slowed that mighty left-handed swing of his, and Mauer and Morneau have also been out for long stretches.

Thome surpassed the 600-homer mark with two blasts at Detroit earlier this month, one of his only highlights this season.

Now he has another.
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Adrian Gonzalez became a monster against the Rangers in the 4 game series.

7 HRs, 11 RBIs, 9 for 16 in hits (.565 average)

Hate to be the Rangers right now since about a week ago they lead the Angels by 7 games and now lost 5 games from their lead with the Angels coming up this weekend.
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