Official RAW Thread for 8/29/11 - Happy Birthday, Kizarny! (Also Inno)

**Cool King** · 08-30-2011, 06:52 AM

I can't believe that there is an entire page of the Raw thread that's just a debate about Nash's music. In typical IWC fashion, people bitch about Nash having no music (even though it made sense for him not to have music at that time) and when he gets music, they bitch about what music it is he has.

But I'd like to talk about the Orton/Ziggler match instead.

It was a great match and Ziggler was fantastic in it. To me, it was a PPV-esq match. So many turns in the match, mostly from Ziggler that made him look like a legitimate threat to Orton. There were times where I thought that maybe Ziggler would win and pull off an upset.

The ending I think may have been botched as it did look like Orton was getting ready to hit an RKO when Ziggler was in the air but he went against it, but that doesn't matter. The ending still looked good.

To me anyway, that was match of the night.

I'm also interested to see how this "Super Show" business plays out and if this is indeed the end of the "Brand Extension".

**Captain of Fun** · 08-30-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King

I can't believe that there is an entire page of the Raw thread that's just a debate about Nash's music. In typical IWC fashion, people bitch about Nash having no music (even though it made sense for him not to have music at that time) and when he gets music, they bitch about what music it is he has.

In typical IWC fashion, a poster acts high and mighty, as if he is above a particular discussion.

There can be a disagreement and discussion about something, without it being "bitching". It doesn't actually bother me that Nash came out to the NWO theme, and I'd guess it didn't bother anyone else who said the same. We were just commenting about how it felt odd.

I didn't know we were only allowed to talk about things that are of the utmost importance around here.

**Cool King** · 08-30-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain of Fun

In typical IWC fashion, a poster acts high and mighty, as if he is above a particular discussion.

There can be a disagreement and discussion about something, without it being "bitching". It doesn't actually bother me that Nash came out to the NWO theme, and I'd guess it didn't bother anyone else who said the same. We were just commenting about how it felt odd.

I didn't know we were only allowed to talk about things that are of the utmost importance around here.

I wasn't acting "high and mighty", I was purely saying how I can't believe a page of the Raw thread is just complaining about music.

But you had loads of things to talk about from Raw.

Orton/Ziggler
Lawler's comments about Otunga & McGillicutty
Triple H vs Punk
Is that Sin Cara 1 or 2 that's in the ring?
Where is the Swagger/Ziggler angle going?
The team of Miz & Truth
Even the name of Kofi & Bourne's team, to name a few.

Instead, you chose to talk about one of the most meaningless things that happened on Raw, the choice of someone's music.

After about two weeks of complaining that Nash has no music, he get's music and people aren't happy at it. I'm not saying you can't talk about it, it's just why talk about something so pointless? Nobody is going to care in the future about the music Nash used last night. But if you want to talk about Nash's music, then fine.

Personally, I think the choice of Nash's music is understandable. Diesel's theme wouldn't suit him as he isn't Diesel, he's Kevin Nash. His 2003 theme sounds too much like Diesel's theme but when he was in the nWo, Kevin Nash was himself and that's who Kevin Nash is at the moment. Kevin Nash is playing Kevin Nash on WWE television, so it makes sense to give him the theme from when he was himself.

Also....

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Originally Posted by Captain of Fun

Makes more sense than using music for a faction that's been dead for over 5 years.

So you're saying it would make more sense if he used music from a gimmick that's been dead for 15 years then?

**Captain of Fun** · 08-30-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King

I wasn't acting "high and mighty", I was purely saying how I can't believe a page of the Raw thread is just complaining about music.

But you had loads of things to talk about from Raw.

Orton/Ziggler
Lawler's comments about Otunga & McGillicutty
Triple H vs Punk
Is that Sin Cara 1 or 2 that's in the ring?
Where is the Swagger/Ziggler angle going?
The team of Miz & Truth
Even the name of Kofi & Bourne's team, to name a few.

Instead, you chose to talk about one of the most meaningless things that happened on Raw, the choice of someone's music.

After about two weeks of complaining that Nash has no music, he get's music and people aren't happy at it. I'm not saying you can't talk about it, it's just why talk about something so pointless? Nobody is going to care in the future about the music Nash used last night. But if you want to talk about Nash's music, then fine.

Personally, I think the choice of Nash's music is understandable. Diesel's theme wouldn't suit him as he isn't Diesel, he's Kevin Nash. His 2003 theme sounds too much like Diesel's theme but when he was in the nWo, Kevin Nash was himself and that's who Kevin Nash is at the moment. Kevin Nash is playing Kevin Nash on WWE television, so it makes sense to give him the theme from when he was himself.

Also....

So you're saying it would make more sense if he used music from a gimmick that's been dead for 15 years then?

AHA!

Now YOU are discussing it. I guess Ziggler/Orton wasn't so important after all.

VICTORY

**Cool King** · 08-30-2011, 04:08 PM

Clearly it wasn't.

May I sleep easy tonight knowing that we've reached some kind of understanding on the major importance that is Nash's music.

Afterall, that's why we all watch wrestling, for the cool music.

08-30-2011, 06:52 AM	#1
Cool King King K Cool Posts: 28,472	I can't believe that there is an entire page of the Raw thread that's just a debate about Nash's music. In typical IWC fashion, people bitch about Nash having no music (even though it made sense for him not to have music at that time) and when he gets music, they bitch about what music it is he has. But I'd like to talk about the Orton/Ziggler match instead. It was a great match and Ziggler was fantastic in it. To me, it was a PPV-esq match. So many turns in the match, mostly from Ziggler that made him look like a legitimate threat to Orton. There were times where I thought that maybe Ziggler would win and pull off an upset. The ending I think may have been botched as it did look like Orton was getting ready to hit an RKO when Ziggler was in the air but he went against it, but that doesn't matter. The ending still looked good. To me anyway, that was match of the night. I'm also interested to see how this "Super Show" business plays out and if this is indeed the end of the "Brand Extension".

08-30-2011, 04:08 PM	#5
Cool King King K Cool Posts: 28,472	Clearly it wasn't. May I sleep easy tonight knowing that we've reached some kind of understanding on the major importance that is Nash's music. Afterall, that's why we all watch wrestling, for the cool music.