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Old 09-30-2011, 12:13 AM   #1
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Curious about where all this knowledge about drawing power is coming from.

I give him 8. And it's all from his wrestling. I can't give him a 10. He is the only wrestler I would rate this high on wrestling skills alone. I would give him a 9 if he weren't the victim of some unfortunate circumstances. When wrestling evolves beyond you, it does you no favors to go to a company who drops the ball with you, have your family start dropping dead and have career-ending strokes. Had Hart more time, he might have surprised people and been able to evolve himself. But nobody knows now.

I save the tens for those who are the performers, the ones who can ignite the crowd and use the ability to create drama. Although a lot of these tens are great wrestlers, some of them aren't; moreover, none of them were as good as Bret in the ring. In his league, yes, plenty were. But none as good.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:44 AM   #2
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He's an easy 9.5 for when he was in his prime.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:12 AM   #3
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Canada 10: Duh

USA 6: I always think he had a solid fan base and liking, but really I never heard people overly rave about him like any other names. He kind of was a side note. It wasn't until he faced off with Austin and Shawn he kind of became more of "star." After he went to WCW his name faded and besides the Screw Job, most "everyday/casual" fans would just kind of go "oh yeah, him too...He was cool" if he was brought up.

Internationally I'm going with a 3: Just like Eklipse I have a very hard time finding non American/Canada fans that know who he is. The ones who do know him are hardcore wrestling fans and still most of them think he's shit and care little about him. The other thing is most of them are from Europe. I have never heard Bret's name every brought up when talking to Asian fans. I've been asked who I'm talking about many times. I think his popularity is a bit over rated.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:01 AM   #4
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Bret was a 10 in his prime, definitely.

In 1997 he was about a 12...he was at his all-time best that year.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:35 AM   #5
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Bret was a 10 in his prime, definitely.

In 1997 he was about a 12...he was at his all-time best that year.
In 1997 when he was over-shadowed by Shawn Michaels. Right.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:41 AM   #6
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In 1997 when he was over-shadowed by Shawn Michaels. Right.
That was towards the end of his tenure there. I'm talking about his feud with Austin, the match they had at WM13, his Anti-American/Canadian Hero gimmick, him being leader of the Hart Foundation, etc. He was money.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:07 AM   #7
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LOL I'll never understand people's need to downplay Bret Hart's achievements and success.

I'm very glad my two favorite wrestlers are HBK and Bret, so I don't have to talk shit about one just to make a point about the other one.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:50 AM   #8
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LOL I'll never understand people's need to downplay Bret Hart's achievements and success.

I'm very glad my two favorite wrestlers are HBK and Bret, so I don't have to talk shit about one just to make a point about the other one.
I don't get it either. They both are legends, they both are on the same level.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:05 AM   #9
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I'd give him a solid 9 all around. Obviously not the huge pop culture icon like Hogan or Austin, but just a right below that, IMO. He did that on his wrestling skills alone too, which speaks volumes about how great he really was.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:15 AM   #10
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LOL at Bret being a "3" Internationally.

And a "6" in the US, yet he had the best Main Event matches from like, 1992 to 1997, was a huge fan favorite, and won Vince's confidence to the point he was a 5-Time WWF Champion, along with the IC and Tag Team Titles.

Incredible.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:43 PM   #11
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LOL at Bret being a "3" Internationally.

And a "6" in the US, yet he had the best Main Event matches from like, 1992 to 1997, was a huge fan favorite, and won Vince's confidence to the point he was a 5-Time WWF Champion, along with the IC and Tag Team Titles.

Incredible.
Can't believe I actually agree with you on something.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:01 PM   #12
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If WWE didn't believe that Austin was going to emerge as a legit main eventer, they wouldn't have let him feud with Bret Hart leading up to his return at Survivor Series 96. His KOTR 96 promo started all of that. I think his WM13 match with Bret indicated that not only is Austin a main eventer, but the whole company can be built around him.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:22 PM   #13
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I'm not denying that the KOTR promo helped Austin. It definitely did. But it didn't immediately put him over the way the WM13 with Bret Hart did. Right after winning the KOTR in June, WWE didn't really do much with Austin until September or so when the seeds for the Bret Hart feud were planted. Unless my memory is incorrect.

I'm just saying that the increase in Austin's overness from the start of WM13 to end of WM13 was a lot higher than the start of KOTR to the end of KOTR.
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:05 PM   #14
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Judging by this Bret was an ok draw, not the best, but come on..

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Old 10-01-2011, 04:07 PM   #15
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