Steam (Moved from Skyrim thread)

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Originally Posted by Requiem Your problem with Steam is that you think Valve is a shit company that would sooner take away your access to games you purchased for more profit than they are currently already earning on the service known as steam. So yes, you are harping on Valve. Never said Valve created TF. Read it again. They certainly contributed to its popularity, so to say they deserve no credit for it is a farce. Team Fortress was a mod. Team Fortress Classic was a game owned by Valve. Thinking that my point is that HL2 is great, is totally missing all of the other points I am making. You're the one that decided to start arguing that Valve's products were mediocre/shit. So again, YES, you are HARPING on Valve. Quite obviously, at that. I don't know why you would even try to act like that's not what you're doing. Your entire point revolves around insisting that their products are crap and thus the company is crap, that they would refuse you access to something you have paid for, and a number of other things which I have refuted about Steam and you instantly dropped in favor of finding new reasons for you to dislike the service. Your argument has been embarrassing, honestly. You haven't stuck with any points that might have held merit if you actually felt 100% about them, and the ones you've stuck with are idiotic at best. So in short (after an ironically long argument), you dislike Steam for a bunch of reasons that aren't true, based on assumptions about Valve that have no basis of fact to back them up, and are ignoring the things that make it good because.... uh... they don't apply to you because you don't want to use them? Sorry if I have a hard time finding your reasons. You've stated them terrible. Again, you're making things up in your head that sound great, because you don't have -good- reasons to hate the service.

They're valid enough for me. I dont feel comfortable having to access all of my games through a digital service. I want my games in hard copy format. And I am not as trusting as all of you that Valve will NEVER EVER do anything "bad" or abuse the fact that they have contol of all your games.

I doubt that.

This is why I dont want to use Steam. You're the ones harping on me.

I didnt say Valve's products were mediocre, I merely said that I didnt think any of them were good after Half Life 1. That doesnt mean others wont think they are good. Its all subjective. Most people think Daikatana was a horrible game. I really enjoyed it and played through it twice. To me, that was a good game, even though most found it terrible. Crysis got great reviews. I found it horribly boring, much like Half Life 2.

What I dont understand is why you defend Valve so vehemently? Do you have stock in their company?

It makes no sense.