DISCUSSION - Should the WWE play up on CM Punk's latest comments towards The Rock?

[Rock Bottom]

Originally Posted by Aguakate The risk in having Rock feud with Punk is that since the fans love Punk, Rock MAY get booed...and I dont think WWE wants Rock to be heel, so...

It don't think it'd work that way.

Both of them are so over right now that it'd be more like Austin vs. Rock WMX7 heat. Punk is getting more and more over, but people aren't going to forget Rock and boo him because of CM Punk.

I'd like to see these two have interaction for sure though when the timing is right.

[ZosoMetalManiac]

While Punk vs. The Rock could be fun, I would *much* rather see Punk vs. Austin. Just saying.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Personally, I would be more into Punk vs. Rock than Cena vs. Rock -- but that's just me. If CM Punk is still the WWE Champion the next time The Rock shows up, I'd like to see him play "The Miz" in their little shenanigans, and interject himself in their promos and remind them that he's the WWE Champion, and WrestleMania should be about him and the WWE Title and not who is the bigger phony.

Punk would need to be edgy with his promos to hang with The Rock, and he's no doubt got a lot to say -- work or not. Punk can face whoever he faces at WrestleMania (let's say Royal Rumble Winner Randy Orton) and then in the main event, he can show up and give The Rock a GTS helping Cena win. This:

a) Protects The Rock, and leaves a question in fans' minds about who is truly better. That might be considered a negative to some, but keep in mind that The Rock has apparently agreed to more than one PPV match with the WWE in 2012.

b) Kick-start Punk vs. Rock, but would also involve John Cena. A program between those three men would be entertaining, to say the least. And, if Punk gets over enough, and Rock/Punk generates enough revenue -- the long-awaited Cena heel turn could theoretically happen, and Cena could come out of the feud completely regenerated.

[Rock Bottom]

Punk vs. Rock mic war would be insane. They'd completely destroy each other.

[The Naitch]

I think Dwayne fears Punk, so I wouldn't be surprised if he avoided a program with him

Some of the shit Cena said about Rock was true (pre-Mania 27) and kinda made Dwayne look weak, just imagine what Punk could do.

I think Rock would have to step his game up if he was gonna be in a promo war vs. Punk

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk's promo work is very different from The Rock's, so it'd be interesting to see him cut through his character and hang with Punk in his own paradigm.

[Majunior]

Originally Posted by The Fraze You don't think The Rock is a good wrestler? ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO!? Not to mention, 20,000 people saying your catchphrases with you night in and night out, selling out arenas, and captivating audiences everywhere = snooze fest. You're a moron, who are you anyway? Oh, and "above average" is definitely an indicator of someone who sucks. Nice job.

Yeah I'm serious. A better question is, how the hell do you think he's even remotely good in the ring? He is nothing exceptional between the ropes. Deal with it, dipshit.

As for his catchphrases, if 20,000 idiots are entertained by the same 14 sound bites every night with some fancy fill in the blank action, let 'em. I bet they like those cards that say "Wanna know how to keep an idiot entertained for hours? Turn this over" too. Saying he's "a little above average in the ring at best" was being nice. That "at best" part means he's very likely below that. Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension. Personally, I think he is and always has been a pretty shitty worker. He's a look and some catchphrases, that's it. Oooohh, and he's got a knack for timing. Yay for him. Look, if people wanna jerk off to that like you obviously do, that's their prerogative. Personally, I get tired of listening to people say the same boring shit for 20 minutes every night. I'll use a Rock promo as a piss break before I'll use a Diva's match.

Rock is successful. It doesn't make him good.

*Please note, I never said the Rock wasn't successful. You can be highly successful and suck ass at the same time.

(( Fun fact: Successful and good aren't the same thing. We can all agree Hogan is amazingly successful, but no one really thinks he's a Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit or Bret Hart in the ring. ))

[DrA]

Perhaps it's a good thing The Rock didn't model himself after someone like Chris Benoit.

[Captain of Fun]

Heyman conveniently forgot to post the first line of Punk's rant about the rock.

The Rock returning to WWE: “I think it’s great. Bottom line is it’s a business. If Rock is going to put asses in seats then yay for us. There are a lot of misconceptions about how I feel about it.

His main problem is with The Rock's diva attitude backstage, which is understandable. He still appreciates what The Rock brings to the WWE as a whole.

So shut the fuck up about it, you mongoloid idiots, and try to stay on god damn topic.

[el bobbo]

We are going to get some Punk vs Rock stuff leading up to WM because Cena is not capable of delivering buzz worthy promos.

Just watch the mainstream media attention for this event. It;s in Miami so it will be huge. They need a guy who can cut a critical promo, and it's not the MIZ.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Majunior Yeah I'm serious. A better question is, how the hell do you think he's even remotely good in the ring? He is nothing exceptional between the ropes. Deal with it, dipshit. As for his catchphrases, if 20,000 idiots are entertained by the same 14 sound bites every night with some fancy fill in the blank action, let 'em. I bet they like those cards that say "Wanna know how to keep an idiot entertained for hours? Turn this over" too. Saying he's "a little above average in the ring at best" was being nice. That "at best" part means he's very likely below that. Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension. Personally, I think he is and always has been a pretty shitty worker. He's a look and some catchphrases, that's it. Oooohh, and he's got a knack for timing. Yay for him. Look, if people wanna jerk off to that like you obviously do, that's their prerogative. Personally, I get tired of listening to people say the same boring shit for 20 minutes every night. I'll use a Rock promo as a piss break before I'll use a Diva's match. Rock is successful. It doesn't make him good. *Please note, I never said the Rock wasn't successful. You can be highly successful and suck ass at the same time. (( Fun fact: Successful and good aren't the same thing. We can all agree Hogan is amazingly successful, but no one really thinks he's a Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit or Bret Hart in the ring. ))

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[Majunior]

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Oh, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

Am I a troll because I got lippy with someone who got lippy with me?
Am I a troll because I'm not afraid to call The Rock's fans on the fact he's a crappy wrestler?

I'll stop guessing. Why don't you endeavor to elucidate me.

Because, going by the common definition, it doesn't fit. I don't care about provoking an emotional response. Dude was off base, I called him on it, he got an attitude, I got one back. I don't care if he blows it off as a difference of opinion or gets his panties in a twist over it.

Simple fact: I think The Rock sucks, he bores the piss out of me, I know for a fact I'm not the only person who feels that way, and I also don't care what popular opinion is. Just because masses of people agree on something doesn't actually make it true.

Punk has some very valid points about the Rock (both good and bad) and I disputed a claim that The Rock was somehow some great wrestler. He simply isn't. Let's face it, Al Snow was a better wrestler. (After all, very few people could wrestle no one in a match and still pull it off.) Also, The Rock got entirely too formulaic with his promos. They got repetitive. Repetition bores me. Especially when it goes on for like ten minutes.

[Rammsteinmad]

You're a troll because you live in a cave.

[Rock Bottom]

da rock is da most electrafine man in all of entertanement . u only think rock sux becuz ur jeloss becuz of his hollywoode pussy he gets every nite while u r a jerk off.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I thought most of the die hard smarks had died out from here.

[Majunior]

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad You're a troll because you live in a cave.

Oh ok. Well that makes sense.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Majunior Oh, I'd love to hear your reasoning. Am I a troll because I got lippy with someone who got lippy with me? Am I a troll because I'm not afraid to call The Rock's fans on the fact he's a crappy wrestler? I'll stop guessing. Why don't you endeavor to elucidate me. Because, going by the common definition, it doesn't fit. I don't care about provoking an emotional response. Dude was off base, I called him on it, he got an attitude, I got one back. I don't care if he blows it off as a difference of opinion or gets his panties in a twist over it. Simple fact: I think The Rock sucks, he bores the piss out of me, I know for a fact I'm not the only person who feels that way, and I also don't care what popular opinion is. Just because masses of people agree on something doesn't actually make it true. Punk has some very valid points about the Rock (both good and bad) and I disputed a claim that The Rock was somehow some great wrestler. He simply isn't. Let's face it, Al Snow was a better wrestler. (After all, very few people could wrestle no one in a match and still pull it off.) Also, The Rock got entirely too formulaic with his promos. They got repetitive. Repetition bores me. Especially when it goes on for like ten minutes.

lol I get why you don't like the Rock, but honestly just because the guy doesn't do things textbook does not make him a bad wrestler. He has impeccable timing, and his style of doing things is very distinctive. He understands pschology and how to work a crowd in a match. He moves quickly, he bumps A LOT, very athletic and generally just tells a good story in the ring. His matches with Austin, HHH, Benoit, Angle, Jericho, Brock Lesnar, Foley are all a testament to how good he is in the ring. Yeah his belly-to-belly and samoan drop are a little loose. Yeah he does a bad sharpshooter. Yeah Al Snow does a way better wristlock, but noone really gave a fuck about Al Snow. They'd rather see the Rock People's Elbow motherfuckers than indy wrestler B putting on a work rate clinic.


It doesn't really matter with the Rock that he's repetitive, he's into his character and dedicates himself to the craft of being "The Rock". He is absolutely brilliant and magnetic as a performer. As repetitive as he is, the crowd is ALWAYS with him.
I get that you want to be cool "Mr. smark" , and lord knows I love CM Punk's work as much as anyone but Punk hasn't done what Rock has done in and for the business. He's on his way there, but there is only one Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

On a side note, Punk also needs to tone up his physique just a tad. He doesn't need to look like a monster, but he looks flabby. Talk about how hard you work but you don't bother keeping in decent shape. It says something.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

And you don't have to enjoy him. But it's as simple as not being a n00b and being like "Wow this guy is a great performer, but he's not up my ally." It's how I feel about Hulk Hogan.

[Damndirty]

The thing I hate about some of the top superstars are the pathetic finisher moves that would, in reality, be about effective as a haymaker thrown by Hornswoggle (moves like the People's Elbow and the Hogan Leg Drop) but are made out to be as effective as the GTS or the Jack-knife Powerbomb. "Sigh" Nothing I can do but let them insult people's common sense I guess.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Damndirty The thing I hate about some of the top superstars are the pathetic finisher moves that would, in reality, be about effective as a haymaker thrown by Hornswoggle (moves like the People's Elbow and the Hogan Leg Drop) but are made out to be as effective as the GTS or the Jack-knife Powerbomb. "Sigh" Nothing I can do but let them insult people's common sense I guess.

The People's Elbow was never supposed to be a finisher in itself. It's always been used as the "exclamation point" on a downed opponent.

[Damndirty]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight The People's Elbow was never supposed to be a finisher in itself. It's always been used as the "exclamation point" on a downed opponent.

I know it wasn't so pivotal when he was in the Nation, but even the Rock Bottom seems ineffective, which is what he usually does before the elbow. But I hate it when people treat a powerbomb or a piledriver (which are both banned on regular use nowadays) like they worked less than something like Hogan's body slam/leg drop combo or the Rock's combo.

[Gerard]

Originally Posted by Damndirty The thing I hate about some of the top superstars are the pathetic finisher moves that would, in reality, be about effective as a haymaker thrown by Hornswoggle (moves like the People's Elbow and the Hogan Leg Drop) but are made out to be as effective as the GTS or the Jack-knife Powerbomb. "Sigh" Nothing I can do but let them insult people's common sense I guess.

You don't think 275lbs coming down across your neck would even be slightly disconcerting?

[Damndirty]

Nah, I weigh about that much myself, but maybe on someone smaller. Now if Mabel/Viscera/Big Daddy V or Yokuzuna did it on me, my poop might squeeze out of my pecker.

[ace3025]

Originally Posted by Damndirty I know it wasn't so pivotal when he was in the Nation, but even the Rock Bottom seems ineffective, which is what he usually does before the elbow. But I hate it when people treat a powerbomb or a piledriver (which are both banned on regular use nowadays) like they worked less than something like Hogan's body slam/leg drop combo or the Rock's combo.

The reason these don't look as effective is because they're only 2 move combos. If someone where have say, a five move combo....that would be impressive. He could probably even make one of those moves an open fisted punch to the forehead. Now that.....that's money!!

[Anybody Thrilla]

I feel it would be a lot easier to transition into a Punk/Rock confrontation than we're making it out to be. If you recall Punk's original "pipe bomb", he referred to Dwayne as a kiss-ass. They wouldn't even have to dig into comments from some convention to kick start things.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Agreed. It would not be hard at all to segue into Rock vs. Punk.