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Curt Hennig 48 55.17%
Ric Flair 39 44.83%
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:44 PM   #41
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Please don't trick yourself into thinking that Flair wasn't in some great matches.

This feels so weird to be defending him, as I'm not the biggest Flair fan. Still, I know he should win this.
I'm not saying that Flair wasn't in some good matches....they're just almost all exactly the same.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:25 PM   #42
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Who did Hennig ever "make"?

When was Hennig ever a top tier guy besides in the late80's with Hogan, but their program didn't draw.

Hennig post Mr. Perfect run in WCW was meh.

Flair is probably the greatest heel in wrestling history. He outdrew Hennig massively, was a better wrestler, singlehandedly kept WCW in business, won just about every title created except for the OCW title which is why he still wrestles, and was 10x better on the mic. You people are fucking retarded.
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Also, even though he is old and way past his prime, I would still rather watch Ric Flair than half of the current guys in the WWE/TNA.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:45 PM   #44
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I know Ric Flair is a legend but Hennig has much better ability than Flair so my vote goes to Hennig.
Wrong... No one touches the Naitch simply because his heyday way 15 years longer than anyone else in the business... Sadly his TNA stint is a necessary joke...
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:46 PM   #45
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Hennig for sure Flair was as overrated as they come.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:49 PM   #46
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The fact that Hennig is leading does not BRING A TEAR TO MY EYE.

Flair is top 3 all-time. Hennig isn't. This is ricockulous.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:49 PM   #47
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Seeing the same arguments that we saw during Eddie Guerrero vs Scott Hall.

Let's keep in mind folks, that while a guy may ruin his legacy by actin a fool later in life, he's still better off than the guy who's DEAD.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:04 PM   #48
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Flair is probably the greatest heel in wrestling history. He outdrew Hennig massively, was a better wrestler, singlehandedly kept WCW in business, won just about every title created except for the OCW title which is why he still wrestles
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Seeing the same arguments that we saw during Eddie Guerrero vs Scott Hall.

Let's keep in mind folks, that while a guy may ruin his legacy by actin a fool later in life, he's still better off than the guy who's DEAD.
It's better to burn out than to fade away.

Though I take your point. If there's ever a "more alive" wrestler, I'm totally gonna vote for Flair over Kert Hemming.
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:03 PM   #51
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Flair is better at living than Curt.
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And actually, that's pretty much the only thing Hall has over Eddie. Not being dead.
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In terms of charisma, on the mic, and gimmick, they're pretty much equal, to be honest.

And when we go to actual wrestling ability, and it's not even close...Hennig blows Flair away.
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:25 PM   #57
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Hennig isn't in Flair's league.
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Flair, hands down.

To say Perfect was better than Flair is crazy, oh wait, Rick is in TNA, and we all know what you people think of TNA
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:19 PM   #60
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:29 PM   #61
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This is fucking ridiculous. Ric Flair is better than Triple H for fucks sake.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:35 PM   #62
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I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:50 AM   #63
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You know this brings up something that's nagged me for a while; why does there seem to be no love for the Flair/Perfect career-ending match on Raw? I seem to recall that match being pretty damn sweet yet I never see it given any props. The finish with Perfect whipping out the surprise Perfect-Plex and Bobby Heenan going apeshit was fantastic.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:54 AM   #64
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That match is on the Raw 15th Anniversary DVD. It's awesome
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:21 AM   #65
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Great, now I have to buy that.

Why isn't it on Perfect's DVD, or either of Flair's???
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You know this brings up something that's nagged me for a while; why does there seem to be no love for the Flair/Perfect career-ending match on Raw? I seem to recall that match being pretty damn sweet yet I never see it given any props. The finish with Perfect whipping out the surprise Perfect-Plex and Bobby Heenan going apeshit was fantastic.
The Bret Hart/Mr Perfect match at Summerslam was awesome, too.
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I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.
I get your point, but at the same time, when I compare any two wrestlers for something like this- I have to weigh up their good points and bad points.

To use your Star Wars analogy, it would be like saying the whole franchise was amazing, but ignoring the new trilogy and shitty spin-offs...
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The Bret Hart/Mr Perfect match at Summerslam was awesome, too.
Maybe I'm overexposed to it for owning FIVE DVDS that it appears on (Count them: the actual SummerSlam DVD, Bret's DVD, the Hart Family DVD, the IC Title DVD, and Perfect's DVD, and there's probably more!) but that match doesn't do much for me. It was definitely a great match, but to me Bret had many better matches; Bret vs Davey in Wembley, Bret vs Piper at WM8, and Bret vs Owen at WMX all spring to mind.) Granted, it may have been due to Pefect being banged up that it wasn't more than it could have been, but my favorite part of that match has always been this exchange:

Monsoon: Concerned look on the face of Stu and Helen Hart as they watch.
Heenan: You know why they're concerned? They snuck in! They scared the usher will find them!

Ok not really my favorite, and it was a great match, but it's definitely a bit overpublished.
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3 Gertner accounts have voted for Flair and Hennig is still 3 in front.
Somebody must have hacked into my accounts and did this!
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:17 AM   #72
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I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.
Aaaand if you're evaluating the whole series, you have to look at both.

Similarly, the Indiana Jones series takes a hit from Crystal Skull, and depending on who you are Temple of Doom. Nobody would claim these series were flawless by ignoring the clunkers.

You may have spent years being entertained by Star Wars, but if you were to call the series as a whole brilliant, you'd probably be laughed at by anyone with any ability to reason.

Which is why the same really should hold true for Flair. And why your logic falls flat. I know Gertie's just playing his gimmick, but you actually seemed to put a kernel of thought into it.

Is Jurassic Park a movie that stands the test of time and remains excellent? Yes. Is the Jurassic Park franchise? Fuck no.

Apply the same critical standards to Flair and....
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:46 PM   #73
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And I will still vote for him over Hennig.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:52 PM   #74
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Hennig wasn't very good or relevant after he left the WWF
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Hennig wasn't very good or relevant after he left the WWF
You just hate him because he's underground.

...I feel dirty.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:08 PM   #76
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No way man! I was a fan before he was even famous! But now he's just trendy and sold out!
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:32 PM   #77
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HE WAS AWESOME IN THE AWA WHEN HE WENT TO WWF HE WAS TOO WATERED DOWN AND DIDN'T COMPLETE HIS MOVESET AND HIS WORKRATE DROPPED.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:39 PM   #78
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His match with Greg Gagne was 6 stars! Waaaaaay better than the "sports entertainment" crap that we are force fed today!
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:21 PM   #79
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Ive only just really gotten to see Mr.Perfects work and I love it Flair is entertaining and all but hes such a shell and a prime example of what not to do

at his age he should be in wrestling cause he loves it not because he has to pay off his next ex wife.

I say Hennig
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What the fuck?
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