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Old 12-15-2011, 12:45 AM   #361
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Had no idea Vince Carter was a Maverick

This Dallas team, IDK...they may be better than last season's version.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:53 AM   #362
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:12 AM   #363
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So that's it? You're off the bandwagon?
lol you fat Mexican. Of course not. It's not a bandwagon I'm on either, I've been a Lakers fan my whole life and will continue to do so. Just disappointed we couldn't get CP3. With this current roster, and its age, I don't know if LA can seriously make a run at a championship. Let's hope so.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:31 AM   #366
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Caron butler went to LAC too? Not bad, I thought they were spreading themselves thin with the trade, but that works.

They now have CP3, Mo Williams, and Chauncey Billups. Trade for a Swingman me thinks?
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:32 AM   #367
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Send williams or billups to detroit and save Ben Gordon. That would be a sick ass move.
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lol you fat Mexican. Of course not. It's not a bandwagon I'm on either, I've been a Lakers fan my whole life and will continue to do so. Just disappointed we couldn't get CP3. With this current roster, and its age, I don't know if LA can seriously make a run at a championship. Let's hope so.
I think they will have a good record, and could win a round or two in the playoffs, maybe even make the title series and win. But it wont be a given like it has been. I still think they are the class of the west.

Rip Hamilton is a Bull...

Not sure I love this. I think the Bulls are on the fringe of being the 2nd best team in the East.
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Let's get something straight. Every Lakers fan that doesn't live in Los Angeles is a bandwagon fan. Now let's shut up about them now that they are about to fade into obscurity. Also, any Clippers fans that start to surface on this board should be banned. Nobody was a Clippers fan ever.
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Let's get something straight. Every Lakers fan that doesn't live in Los Angeles is a bandwagon fan. Now let's shut up about them now that they are about to fade into obscurity. Also, any Clippers fans that start to surface on this board should be banned. Nobody was a Clippers fan ever.
Every Laker fan not living in LA is a former Jordan era Bulls fan. So yes, they are.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 12:43 PM   #372
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Let's get something straight. Every Lakers fan that doesn't live in Los Angeles is a bandwagon fan. Now let's shut up about them now that they are about to fade into obscurity. Also, any Clippers fans that start to surface on this board should be banned. Nobody was a Clippers fan ever.
Sweet Logic. You can only like teams that you live near. Totally legit.

Agree on the Clippers part. Its only a matter of time until those muties show up.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:58 PM   #373
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That is seriously retarded logic. My dad lived in LA before I was born, taught me to be a Lakers fan when I was growing up in Greece. How the hell am I a bandwagoner.
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No, no. I never said that Hanso. You're allowed to like teams that you don't live near. Just not the Lakers.
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This Dallas team, IDK...they may be better than last season's version.
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Huge scare concerning Jeff Green on the Celtics with medical tests showing a "red flag" and a new round of tests required. It also appears to be something major and not a simple fracture or otter medical issue that gets revealed quickly (nor any drug violations either).

Already some people are starting to fear he might have something wrong with his heart being similar to what ended up killing Reggie Lewis after he had a heart attack during a practice in the late 1980s (and 1 year after Len Bias suddenly died).

Won't know how serious it is until Friday at the earliest.
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Going to be honest here...

I think the Sixers this year can be a top 5 seed team in the Eastern Conference. Not because I think they are good, but because I think they are better equiped to handle this lockout season then most other teams. They are young, and have all been together for a season plus.

I think it will work out this year for them.
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No, what's ridiculous or ignorant is that everybody seems to push the fact that you "have to respect" the Lakers franchise. No, I don't. Not even a little bit. The Lakers getting unfair advantages is not only a large reason of why my favorite basketball team doesn't have a championship, but it's also a large reason why I may not even have a team to cheer for anymore after next year. Fuck the Lakers and their fans. After the year that we were blatantly raped by the referees to get the Kings/Lakers series to a 7 game series ( See 'Greatest Tragedy in Sports' doc on youtube), our fans pretty much gave up. Sacramento didn't have it in them anymore to put faith behind a team that the league didn't want to win a Championship. Not only was it a disgrace to the sport, but the Lakers and most notably Shaq tried to rub a victory in our faces that they didn't earn whatsoever. After the ref scandals comes the Pau trade and from that moment I just knew that's how it was going to be. I have a big problem with how large market teams get preferential treatment in the league, but above all other teams, I will always hate the Lakers with a brutal and burning passion.

Aside from the Lakers organization being abysmal, Lakers fans are only second to Raiders fans in how fucking ridiculous they are. If they win a big game, they riot. If they lose a big game, they riot. If they start to lose by a large margin, they leave. If they are up by a large margin, they leave. The Lakers and their fans are everything I hate about sports all wrapped up in a bow. Also, anytime you bring up how big of a piece of shit the Lakers organization is, their fans spout off about how they had nothing to do with the reffing scandals or the trade scandals and that it's all the leagues fault. But they have absolutely no qualms benefiting from all of the ridiculous shady behavior. If you are a Lakers fan, then you inherit ALL of the history from the team, not just the stuff you want to highlight.
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Tim Donaghy admitted it and it was documented in a report to the Board of Governers in explicit detail. It isn't a theory.

The entire report is here if you'd like to read it.

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/...witzReport.pdf

You can put your hands over your ears and yell "LALALALALA" as much as you'd like, it doesn't make it any less real. You could just watch the game and know something ridiculous was at work and then an actual NBA referee whistle blows on the whole situation and it still isn't enough. Alright.
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Tim Donaghy fixed games so he could bet on them and control the point spread.

It sucks I know, but it's not like the Lakers slipped him a twenty to fix the game for them.
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Also, LOL @ the league not wanting Sacramento to win a championship. Come on.

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But they have absolutely no qualms benefiting from all of the ridiculous shady behavior.
Are you insinuating that if the Kings had been the ones on the winning end, that they would have given back their Western Conference Championship?
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Also, LOL @ the league not wanting Sacramento to win a championship. Come on.

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What other conclusion could I possibly come to if our biggest competition to get to a championship is the LA Lakers and a championship series was already rigged in their favor? Not really going out on a limb there.
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Tim Donaghy fixed games so he could bet on them and control the point spread.

It sucks I know, but it's not like the Lakers slipped him a twenty to fix the game for them.
Tim Donaghy wasn't even officiating in that game. This is far beyond just Tim Donaghy.
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But he fact remains that they were fixing games to put money in their pockets, not to help out their buddies against the Kings
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Didn't the scandal also involve other series and teams stretching for a few years although the Kings-Lakers 2002 series became the worst due to how badly it was officiated and people at the time being convinced it was fixed. I know the Bucks complained a bit about potentially lopsided officiating during either the year Philly or Indy went to the NBA Finals.



ESPN managed to completely break down the Chris Paul deal involving the Clippers and the failed one against the Lakers.
The Lakers deal would have made the Hornets playoff-ready for the next few years but the team's age would be around 30-31 and not enough salary cap flexibility.

The Clippers deal makes the Hornets a lot younger (24 years old) with a better stockpile of draft picks for future needs but potentially would need a couple of years to rebuild back to a quality playoff spot level.
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Tim Donaghy claims that certain games were officiated a certain way by request of the NBA. Which makes complete sense in this particular game in question seeing as how a lengthy series brings in more revenue, as does a big market team winning a championship (as opposed to a small market team like the Sacramento Kings).
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Didn't the scandal also involve other series and teams stretching for a few years although the Kings-Lakers 2002 series became the worst due to how badly it was officiated and people at the time being convinced it was fixed. I know the Bucks complained a bit about potentially loppsided officiating during either the year Philly or Indy went to the NBA Finals.
Yeah, that report singles out a few other games but I'd imagine there were many others that were never really reported on. The Kings/Lakers one took off just because it was so blatantly obvious there was foul play involved.
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as does a big market team winning a championship (as opposed to a small market team like the Sacramento Kings).
If the NBA was really "against" small market teams winning a championship, I don't think Spurs would have 4 championships.
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Donaghy is far from reliable.
Which is exactly why the NBA can get away with denying something pretty clear to see. Donaghy or not, I think it's fairly common knowledge by now that the NBA has been corrupt in certain aspects of their business for years. The Lakers/Kings 2002 Game 6 incident is only a clear indication of an ongoing problem, not the entire problem.
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