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Old 01-03-2012, 01:18 AM   #521
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Would be pretty shitty if Brodus Clay debuts and gets injured...
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:22 AM   #522
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The promos were never supposed to obviously connect to Jericho. However, if you really think about it, they, at the very least, loosely link to Jericho and are pretty clear that it's going to be a "different" Jericho.

The segment itself was great. He had them like putty in his hands at first, then the crowd slowly started to turn. I'd love to see him continue this for a few weeks, where he plays an over the top face character but the crowd ultimately turns on him. It reminded me a lot of his WCW character where he was so into himself, only this time it's because he knows he has control of the fans (CONTROL, by the way, was the title of one of the videos - CONNECTION!) and is setting it as a ruse. Honestly, I wouldn't have had it any other way. Way better than the standard come back as a legit face, cut a sickeningly sweet promo then turn heel over the course of a few weeks after turning on someone to show that he never changed. And changes things up from him coming right back as heel Jericho.

As for the rest of RAW, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the best, but there was enough there that it felt like it had a good flow and there wasn't any absolute shit on the show outside of the Divas match. It definitely starts the set up for the Rumble and establishes Barrett as a contender for winning the Rumble.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:30 AM   #523
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I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we don't see Jericho again for a few weeks...maybe not even til the Rumble or the night after.

Point being he'll get a huge cheer again upon his arrival at which point he can properly heel out on the microphone and explain himself.
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Guys, I'm excited as the rest of you that Jericho is back, but if the only way they explain the it begins videos is that they were just a swerve, then that's pretty lame. And don't tell me that it worked because it got people to turn in. That's not clever.

Like I said before, I'm reserving judgment on the whole return until we see where they go with it. I doubt they're gonna make concrete statements like "she told me to return" and then leave it at that without any followup. So let's seeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Oh I think there will be an explanation. But I don't think there will be literal connections, like the girl is Stephanie or something.

Going back to that post I found a week or two ago, this makes complete sense. The girl is Punk - Punk, who has become an uber face - and Jericho is coming back to reclaim what is his - his spotlight, his title. In essence, Jericho was mocking Punk for turning into what he has. He was showing him "how it's done".

Obviously that's just speculation, but the videos don't need a literal meaning to actually connect and make sense.
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The only thing I see that had anything to do with a "swerve" is him coming down and not talking on the mic. Which everybody expected him to do. The videos I'm sure will become clearer as the weeks go by. You know that they start turning shit up towards the Rumble and the Road to Wrestlemania.
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Watching the first half of Raw right now... I hate how Miz sold that chest beating from Sheamus. It bugged me.
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Oh I think there will be an explanation. But I don't think there will be literal connections, like the girl is Stephanie or something.

Going back to that post I found a week or two ago, this makes complete sense. The girl is Punk - Punk, who has become an uber face - and Jericho is coming back to reclaim what is his - his spotlight, his title. In essence, Jericho was mocking Punk for turning into what he has. He was showing him "how it's done".

Obviously that's just speculation, but the videos don't need a literal meaning to actually connect and make sense.
That would be perfect.
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I find it funny that this happened right after CM Punk's segment with Johnny Ace.
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Watching the first half of Raw right now... I hate how Miz sold that chest beating from Sheamus. It bugged me.
That looked stiff as fuck on Sheamus' part.
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Yeah, I read something connecting Punk to the girl. She was looking over the boys shoulder, reading what he was writing and such as a reference to Punk stealing Jericho's ideas. Then she chased him out of the school at one point.
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That looked stiff as fuck on Sheamus' part.
And he was fucking relentless. lol. It wasn't ending.

And Miz kinda fell on the mat and gave an "ow" reaction before running full speed over the barrier.
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Jericho looks to be in great shape. Can't wait to see him in the ring again, regardless of whether or not the videos made any sense.

That reception he got was pretty amazing too, considering how awful today's crowds can be.
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Chris Jericho proved tonight he's great. He had the crowd cheering wildly for him, and within minutes, he had them booing him. Very few people can do that.

The heat he's going to get next week (assuming he shows up next week, of course) is going to be crazy.
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ok what? there were like 6 people booing him
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If you can't see where Jericho's character is heading, your name must be Ray Charles.



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ok what? there were like 6 people booing him
When he was standing at the end of the ramp and turned to head to the back, the boos were pretty loud.
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When he was standing at the end of the ramp and turned to head to the back, the boos were pretty loud.
Of course they were.

It was like the crowd turned on him within minutes.

It was f'n brilliant.
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After watching Jericho again, I was thinking... it would be cool if they go with an exaggerated Rock gimmick. Where Jericho literally thinks he's so huge that all he has to do is show up and do the bare minimum. He doesn't even turn heel, he just stays clueless because his ego makes him believe he can just show up when he feels like it and play to the crowd, collect a paycheck and leave.
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After watching Jericho again, I was thinking... it would be cool if they go with an exaggerated Rock gimmick. Where Jericho literally thinks he's so huge that all he has to do is show up and do the bare minimum. He doesn't even turn heel, he just stays clueless because his ego makes him believe he can just show up when he feels like it and play to the crowd, collect a paycheck and leave.
Oh shit, I would love if they actually did this.

And have him look all hyper and happy as he does it, too.
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this was the worst raw in over two months. that's savage because beside punk and Bryan (and ziggles) they have been dog feces.
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this was the worst raw in over two months. that's savage because beside punk and Bryan (and ziggles) they have been dog feces.
This post pretty much confirms Raw was a good show
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:00 AM   #550
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This was definitely the best RAW of the year, in my humble opinion.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:01 AM   #551
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:01 AM   #552
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This was definitely the best RAW of the year, in my humble opinion.
It was also the first lol
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:02 AM   #553
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It was also the first lol
You brain surgeon, you.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:10 AM   #554
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It was also the first lol
The first GREAT one indeed!
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You brain surgeon, you.
Why would you call it the best Raw of the year if there are no other Raw's to compare it too?

That would be like SammyG calling the first Twilight book the best one ever even tho he's never read the rest.
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Why would you call it the best Raw of the year if there are no other Raw's to compare it too?
You nincompoop, why do you think I did so?

I know what day I live in.
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