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Old 02-17-2012, 07:13 PM   #41
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:15 PM   #42
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Now she teaches Yoga in Downtown Toronto, lucky us lol.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:13 AM   #43
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this chick's pretty good: http://youtu.be/E9obAE2w26Y

look at her sell that backbreaker.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:24 AM   #44
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:25 AM   #45
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:54 AM   #46
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No one cares about womens wrestling.

But the answer is Trish.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:12 AM   #48
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #49
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I really wish they never came up with the idea of female wrestling.
what i hate about it is that character development for female wrestlers (in wwe anyway) is severely pigeon-holed, and it makes it fucking boring. everything is centered around the fact that they are chicks. there are hot chicks, bitch chicks and psycho chicks. that's it. no "diva" ever has personality or inspiration beyond that. so why the fuck would we care?

gail kim titantron 2003/2004

^ i loved this idea. a matrix gimmick which matched what she was physically capable of with all her aerial twisting armbar shit. and i could think of a million interesting storylines that could be enhanced by and even centered around the visions she would have, being someone that saw through the matrix that the rest of us assclowns couldn't.

point being, it was an interesting character, unique to the ring at the time. and the fact that she is female would be secondary.

bad wrestlers can still be fun to watch if they are entertaining in some other way. all these "divas" get to bring to the show are their tits and asses. sure, it fun, but only in spurts (ba-dum, chh). there's no reason to develop any connection at all. how boring would the men's division be if it was just a bunch of male strippers?

while trish was a huge star, i think her influence was a catalyst in ostracizing the female division as a separate, lesser entity with only sex appeal to offer, and thus partially to blame for the shitty condition it's in today.[/rant]
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #50
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I'll probably get some reaming for this, but I havn't been able to get the kind of female wrestler created by Melissa and refined to what it is today by Kong & Del Ray. Chubby, doesn't sell a lot, most of their offense is ridiculous power moves. I mean, I can get that they've been built up because they hardly ever lose and they throw everybody else around like ragdolls, it's like a gender-flipped Brock Lesnar thing. C'mon, tho, the amount of Best in the world!!1!!! hype they get for doing the same damn thing every night? There's at least 10 women on the American scene I'd put above these 3 that can have awesome matches with people their own size, based on actually working a good match.

what I'm trying to say - Just like I can't eat Steak every night, I do enjoy a round of "OMG WATCH THE BIGGER GIRL KILL THE LITTLE ONE" every once in a while; but not every match.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:27 AM   #51
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:17 AM   #52
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You need to see her matches against Japanese women wrestlers if you think Sara del Rey is in anyway a gender reversed brick lesnar. She is technically savvy remember she was trained by Bryan fn danielson so she can go. She even wrestles guys to great matches. Ignorance
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:54 PM   #53
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in fairness she basically is a guy
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:47 PM   #54
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Now she teaches Yoga in Downtown Toronto, lucky us lol.
I don't know if you're from the Toronto area or not, but her studio isn't in Downtown Toronto. It's in Vaughan, right by Canada's Wonderland.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:56 PM   #55
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2 fine examples of top notch world class women's wrestling from Gerard right there
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:02 PM   #57
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:03 PM   #58
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She's still an awesome wrestler.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:10 PM   #59
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^ I wonder how ofetn she gets to practise those moves these days....
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Also, the idea of anyone being the best female wrestler of all time is a joke when both Fabulous Moolah AND Mae Young existed.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:42 PM   #61
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Also, the idea of anyone being the best female wrestler of all time is a joke when both Fabulous Moolah AND Mae Young existed.
neither of them could draw like the men could...but trish did. neither of them could out work the men...but trish could. neither of them could cut a decent promo...trish could cut a damn good one. neither could work baby and heel...trish could.
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Also neither of them looked like Trish.
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neither of them could draw like the men could...but trish did. neither of them could out work the men...but trish could. neither of them could cut a decent promo...trish could cut a damn good one. neither could work baby and heel...trish could.
One of my issues with this is the need to cut a decent promo. That wasn't ALWAYS a necessity until the '80s to '90s. Hell it wasn't really a necessity until the '70s for most MEN. As far as "drawing like the men," that is a different animal altogether. For a long time, women wrestlers couldn't work at events with men in the audience.

That's like saying Trish couldn't legit take down a woman who was looking to shoot on her... Mae and Moolah could.

I'm not saying that Trish isn't a good worker. Hell, she's a great one. I just think Moolah and Mae are better.
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One of my issues with this is the need to cut a decent promo. That wasn't ALWAYS a necessity until the '80s to '90s. Hell it wasn't really a necessity until the '70s for most MEN.
the good ones have ALWAYS been able to talk people into the seats. well before the 70s. the only thing thats changed is how they talk them into said seats.

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pretty irrelevent. people paid to see trish. they did not pay to see moolah outside of the freakshow draw.

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That's like saying Trish couldn't legit take down a woman who was looking to shoot on her... Mae and Moolah could.
this has nothing to do with working so imma skip it.

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I'm not saying that Trish isn't a good worker. Hell, she's a great one. I just think Moolah and Mae are better.
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If you are talking total package, i.e. wrestling ability, looks, promo work, then I have to go with Trish with Beth Phoenix at a VERY close second.

As far as pure wrestling ability goes, there are countless others that are superior to those two.
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:53 PM   #74
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:35 PM   #75
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neither of them could draw like the men could...but trish did. neither of them could out work the men...but trish could. neither of them could cut a decent promo...trish could cut a damn good one. neither could work baby and heel...trish could.
No way could Trish Stratus out work the men.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:06 PM   #76
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:25 PM   #78
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The divas need a chance to develop decent storylines and more time to actually wrestle... Trish has oppertunities that the other Divas dont get now. What was the last good Diva angle, Kharma? Santino and Beth? LayCool?
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:06 AM   #79
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No way could Trish Stratus out work the men.
you would be wrong
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