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Old 02-27-2012, 11:36 PM   #441
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Rock is so used to being in character ,now its pretty much about doing shoot promos , especially in this case.

Something new to him, he should ask Punk for advice
That's a good theory...
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:37 PM   #442
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Like when Cena said The Rock wouldn't care if WWE tomorrow. He could have said how he helped keep WCW from killing WWF. When Rock kept talking about the people and living to entertaining I thought he'd bring up Cena not having half the ratings he did.
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Cena can't see The Rock....The Rock pwned Cena just by being there. Vintage Rock it wasn't much more to bee said the show was over why you think he went into auto pilot and wrapped it up. The Rock is what its all about filling the seats and entertaining the fans. They just mad cause The Rock doesn't have to try as hard ans some people feelings hurt.....
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I will go as far as to say that this night was set up for Cena to win.
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My guess is they will build to The Rock finally unloading on Cena with an epic worked shoot on the RAW in a few weeks.
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My guess is they will build to The Rock finally unloading on Cena with an epic worked shoot on the RAW in a few weeks.
ah yes, once he gets adequate rehearsal time
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4 reel tho I liked Rocky's promo until Cena came out

then it all went south
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1) So Rock doesn't care about WWE but comes back for Wrestlemania anyway despite the fact he could be making much more money doing something else that weekend with much less risk. If Rock gets injured at WM he could lose millions off missing 1 film, Cena would have to miss the whole year.

2) Rock went away and became a "Movie Star", well what about the fans who don't get to see John Cena while he was filming the marine, or 12 rounds. Similarly Zak Ryder is currently off TV filming.

3) Cena was one of the millions who missed Rock when he left before he could say "Rocky don't go", except he came back at least three times after that to help WWE out of the sh*t when Austin left suddenly.

Rock's promo tonight wasn't the killer I hoped it would be, but Cena has in no way won, not even close. He is still clinging on to the idea that Rock is oh so selfish for leaving yet has done similar (less successfull) projects himself. Rock doesn't need to come back to WWE as much as WWE needs him to come back, its not like Rock's career has failed and he is back looking for a paycheque.

Cena called Rock out on the wrist notes, but other than that nothing Cena said or did was new, he already said that last week.

One overall feeling does strike me though, for all the worked shoots and back and forth, not once has Cena aknowledged that the reason Rock states that we hate Cena is 100% on the money.

Anyway, great atmosphere, great crowd, and the fued is definately heating up going into WM. As long as noone gets injured, it should be a great month or so.
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The thing that makes The Rock The Rock is the rapid fire delivery, and I don't get why he didn't do that until the end.
I think he really got affected by the goosebumps and the crowd reaction because every promo of his that wasn't from satellite since his first return ends up starting out slow and then getting to the classic rapid fire Rock style.

I also think unlike Cena, he's not really taking this as personal as Cena is which is why Cena's sounds a lot better because of the motivation.

The biggest benefit the Rock has with his promos is the crowd stays active a lot longer than with Cena to the point they start to really take over his segments.
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Rock can get crowd chanting no matter what he does, the crowd saved him a bit but he didn't really add anything new. I'm not a Cena fan by any means, btw.
Isn't that the point? Everytime Cena talks, the audience is silent, they have no reaction to it at all. The Rock just needs to come to the ring, he can stand their for 5 minutes and not say a word, and people have chanted 3 different things already.

Cena will never be the entertainer, or athlete The Rock is. What exactly did Cena add to it? All he said is the same thing he always says, "you left for hollywood shame on you for trying to become a global star, shame on you for living your dream" It's all bullshit, Cena can't touch what the Rock has accomplished not only in the world of wrestling, but in the world of entertainment. No matter what Cena says, the fact is, he is "The Man" in an era where the WWE has never been more irrelevant to the entertainment world. The numbers speak for themselves,
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I dunno, y'all. Rocky fans seem to be scrambling for excuses in here.
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Well Cena would have been a lot better to not leave the ring with such "hustle" and given some time to look The Rock in the eye for a length of time, which is the one thing he didn't do. Great segment, great build for WM especially for Jericho/Punk and Teddy/Ace. Looking forward to HBK next week too... Triple Threat?
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here's something to think about: cena sold a match the rock sold his twitter account. who gets the buisness again?
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I dunno, y'all. Rocky fans seem to be scrambling for excuses in here.
Excuses for what? The Rock was brought in tonight to do one thing, entertain. If you didn't notice, the audience was in the palm of his hand the whole time, as was most of the world. Just look at twitter, #Cenasmissingballs is still trending world wide. What exactly are we making excuses for?
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My guess is they will build to The Rock finally unloading on Cena with an epic worked shoot on the RAW in a few weeks.
Well next you have Rock interupt a Cena promo,

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I dunno, y'all. Rocky fans seem to be scrambling for excuses in here.
Not going to lie I'm a little bit worried.
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Excuses for what? The Rock was brought in tonight to do one thing, entertain. If you didn't notice, the audience was in the palm of his hand the whole time, as was most of the world. Just look at twitter, #Cenasmissingballs is still trending world wide. What exactly are we making excuses for?
rock was brought to sell tickets. did he even mention the match at mania?
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here's something to think about: cena sold a match the rock sold his twitter account. who gets the buisness again?
So making millions of people talk about The Rock and John Cena on twitter is bad for the business? Last time I checked, it's those people who are going to be buying the PPV/tickets.

So I ask you, who gets the business again?
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The Rock obviously get the wrestling business. The dude has made millions off it.
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rock was brought to sell tickets. did he even mention the match at mania?
"At Wrestlemania, you fight for the boys in the back, I fight for the people"

Sounds like he mentioned it too me.
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So making millions of people talk about The Rock and John Cena on twitter is bad for the business? Last time I checked, it's those people who are going to be buying the PPV/tickets.

So I ask you, who gets the business again?
dont think those are interconnected at all. im yet to see any evidence that twitter translates to ticket sales if it did zack ryder wouldnt be a fuckin joke.
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dont think those are interconnected at all. im yet to see any evidence that twitter translates to ticket sales if it did zack ryder wouldnt be a fuckin joke.
So the reason for WWE posting what is trending on twitter every 15-30 minutes is because they believe twitter is irrelevant...
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no they BELIEVE twitter is relevent. so far no numbers support the concept
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theres more thats says it has no effect. alicia foxx trended for 2 hours tonight...think about it
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"At Wrestlemania, you fight for the boys in the back, I fight for the people"

Sounds like he mentioned it too me.
twas a good line

probably the best of the promo
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I have always disliked Face Rock. I am firmly on John Cena's side. I think Rock really needs to be a heel in this whole thing.

.... and by being a heel he would be ten time more interesting, and he would also actually still get massively cheered.
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So do you believe honestly that Vince or someone else in the backstage area is not telling the Rock to get whatever he can to trend?

I can say with 100% positivity that it is the case, and is exactly why he is doing it. It is a form of Marketing that otherwise could cost millions of dollars to produce.

In the end, all the marketing in the world will not save this business if we have a guy like John Cena leading the way as "The Man" it has been proven the last how many years.

This is why when Wrestlemania comes around, you see guys like The Rock, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, HHH, StoneCold Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Chris Jericho, ect ect ect.. Because without them, they would have to sell the show with John Cena, CM Punk, and whoever else is the top stars in this company now a days.

Fact is, Rock is there to sell tickets, and PPV buys, and by getting millions (AND MILLIONS ) of people to talk about him, Cena, Cena's lady parts, Cena's missing balls, Kung Pow Bitch, ect ect, on twitter, how exactly can that be a bad thing in way of exposure to the fact they are fighting at Mania?
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no one is telling the rock what to say except for the personal writters he has employed for the last 13 years. vince isnt feeding him anyhting. and as far as the rock selling tickets last time i checked survivor series was a massive draw...right?
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twas a good line

probably the best of the promo

As opposed to the usual "Rock left for hollywood, said he was back and not going anywhere" crap Cena says EVERY week. Or the "I was a Rocky fan too" or "Why did you leave Rock?" All the while people are chanting Rocky and could care less what Cena is actually saying.
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wait...cena/punk out drew it. nevermind.
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no one is telling the rock what to say except for the personal writters he has employed for the last 13 years. vince isnt feeding him anyhting. and as far as the rock selling tickets last time i checked survivor series was a massive draw...right?

Could that have something to do with his tag partner who the world is sick of seeing, or their opponents, who were they again? Or the fact that the other main event was The Big Show vs Mark Henry, or that Diva Lumerjill match?
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A) a shows success or failure is creditied to the main and only the main. anything else is excuses.

B) did you see the rest of the card that had cena/punk? same could be said but dont let that get in the way of your lack of facts.

C) if cena was the problem guess mania is fucked...but of course by that logic cena/punk shouldnt have drawn...cause you know he was at the top of that card too...by your own logic punk > rock tho so i can go with that.
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I like Cena AND The Rock. Honestly can't wait for their match. Should be epic
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I kinda get the feeling Rock didn't know Cena was gonna come out. Cena's interruption felt kinda random after it happened. Especially after Rock seemed kinda flustered.
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And the "kung pow bitch" stuff was pretty lame. Especially if it was one of the things he wrote on his hand ahead of time. Kind of afraid it was.
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Could that have something to do with his tag partner who the world is sick of seeing, or their opponents, who were they again? Or the fact that the other main event was The Big Show vs Mark Henry, or that Diva Lumerjill match?
Uh... where have you been the last 5 years? Cena is a massive draw. See most of those ppv buys are coming from kid's parents who wanna see the show. Almost every wrestling fan I know irl watches 90% of the ppvs of the year through streams. Rock may = Chanting, but Chanting doesn't = $$$.
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