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Old 03-23-2012, 12:42 AM   #1
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Could someone help me understand:

a) Knowing your team of *professionals* tried to dish out career/health threatening injuries for extra money = year suspension. Also, people saying this is "too severe" of a punishment, as he's being made an example of in light of all the concussion talk.

b) Knowing your team of *students* gave out worn jerseys for extra tattoos = loss of job. Also, people saying the punishment was not severe enough and the school should suffer the "death penalty", thus losing the ability to even have a football team because of it.

I know the leagues are different, but something has to be said for our sports culture when college kids doing something stupid for money or benefits is seen worse than people who are supposed to be pros getting extra cash to try and hospitalize another man.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:54 AM   #2
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Could someone help me understand:

a) Knowing your team of *professionals* tried to dish out career/health threatening injuries for extra money = year suspension. Also, people saying this is "too severe" of a punishment, as he's being made an example of in light of all the concussion talk.

b) Knowing your team of *students* gave out worn jerseys for extra tattoos = loss of job. Also, people saying the punishment was not severe enough and the school should suffer the "death penalty", thus losing the ability to even have a football team because of it.

I know the leagues are different, but something has to be said for our sports culture when college kids doing something stupid for money or benefits is seen worse than people who are supposed to be pros getting extra cash to try and hospitalize another man.
The deal with the Saints is more about them blatantly lying to the NFL about stopping the bounty system.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:41 AM   #3
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The deal with the Saints is more about them blatantly lying to the NFL about stopping the bounty system.
Yeah, I get that, but my point was that this is being treated like this is a frivolous and overly punitive punishment for a guy who knew about and lied about stopping an institution that *encourged* people to ignore safety of other players on opposing teams as opposed to knowing and just not telling that some of your players sold some autographs. No steroids, no cheating, no bounty system... just extra benefits for a few student athletes.

You're hearing a lot about how "violence is part of the game... bla bla bla..." and that this isn't as disgusting as it sounds, and that the only reason why Peyton got a year suspension instead of a few games is because of all the concussion heat about in the league right now and someone like a Manning or a Favre being a target for pass rushers looking for bonus dollars. Almost as if the thought is "yeah, it's bad, but it's not THAT bad."

This, as opposed to Tressel possibly knowing and not telling that some of his students traded autographs and clothes and jerseys and shit like that in exchange for getting some ink done and a little cash. People treated that as if Ohio State were the goddamn devil, an unconscinable black eye to the sport, and that just asking for the resignation of the coach and suspending players for games and losing future scholarship spots and vacating wins wasn't nearly enough.

There seems to be an imbalance in that logic - that promoting a system of injuring people for extra cash isn't nearly as bad as turning a blind eye to a couple kids ebaying their signature - and I was merely pointing that out.
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Yeah, I get that, but my point was that this is being treated like this is a frivolous and overly punitive punishment for a guy who knew about and lied about stopping an institution that *encourged* people to ignore safety of other players on opposing teams as opposed to knowing and just not telling that some of your players sold some autographs. No steroids, no cheating, no bounty system... just extra benefits for a few student athletes.

You're hearing a lot about how "violence is part of the game... bla bla bla..." and that this isn't as disgusting as it sounds, and that the only reason why Peyton got a year suspension instead of a few games is because of all the concussion heat about in the league right now and someone like a Manning or a Favre being a target for pass rushers looking for bonus dollars. Almost as if the thought is "yeah, it's bad, but it's not THAT bad."

Maybe you've got different sources than me, but based on what I've read and in my humble opinion, I don't think very many people outside of the Saints and a few idiot former players are that opposed to the punishments. Also, most analysts I've heard attribute the severity to the fact that he continued to allow the program to exist and lied to the Commissioner's office moreso than potential player lawsuits or who were targeted.
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