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Old 07-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #1641
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Probably will since the Knicks lost out on Nash although you have to consider the Mavs are really going to push a lot harder to get Lin now that Kidd and Williams are both gone as options.

That is assuming Lin rejects the Rockets offer at the moment though or the Knicks match the offer.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:36 PM   #1642
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Does the Kidd signing mean they're still going after Lin ??
Yeah. I think the biggest reason they went Kidd instead of Felton is to have someone to mentor Lin.

Apparently Lin and the Rockets agreed to a 3 year/$19.5M offer sheet with a team option worth 9.3M for the 4th year. So the Knicks have 3 days to match after July 11th.

There is no way the Knicks don't match that now. Glad that it didn't get crazier than this though. People were saying teams were gonna offer him close to $40M.
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Still, thats a great payday for 2 months of good play.
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Stan Kroenke beats David Stern to take control of the NBA when Kevin Durant runs in and turns heel, shocking the world and becoming his top star. the Nugget World Order forms and they dominate for the next 5 years. ratings ratings ratings
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Woo can't wait for the all the "Chinese Rocket" jokes when Lin plays with Houston.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:11 AM   #1646
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Don't see the Knicks resigning Jeremy Lin.

And you can take that shit to the bank, or else my name isn't Scott Roberts.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:37 AM   #1649
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Owenbrown, you're on one for sure. There is parity in the NFL because there is a single elimination playoff. New Orleans, New York, Indianapolis, New England, Green Bay, Denver, St. Louis, and even fucking Pittsburgh have all won championships during that timespan. Yes, Denver, New England, New York and Pittsburgh have won multiple Titles, but of this group New England and New York are the only big market teams. There is parity in the NFL. There may or may not be parity in baseball, I dunno (who can watch that game for six months? 132 games? fuck that). The NBA is going to have teams win multiple titles in runs...best of 7 series is designed for the better overall team to win. Less upsets brah.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:46 AM   #1650
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owenbrown kinda has a point. Not that it's fixed or anything but with the same team consistently in the finals. In general the NBA is easily the most predictable of the 4 major North American sports. It's about a year from the Finals and you can already narrow it down to about 5-6 teams that may have a realistic shot at winning. Even that might be generous. As opposed to other sports where there are like 15+ contenders heading in.

It's just hard to get excited for a season when you know that the most you can hope for is to get out of the first round of the playoffs.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #1651
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Also I'm glad the Knicks didn't give Lin that big of a contract. It's just way too much money for too small a sample size.

lol @ everybody who spent big bucks on authentic Lin jerseys though. Too risky to get a jersey for a flash in the pan guy.
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the Knicks still will give Lin that big of a contract
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:18 AM   #1653
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They're idiots if they match that offer. Too much. Would be a great move for Lin though since he'll make a shitload in endorsements.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:19 AM   #1654
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THey'll match that offer because they just signed the best point guard coach in NBA history.
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Lin won't leave the Knicks. He's part of their states 2 man circus. Lin and Tebow are draws for the state of New York.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:03 PM   #1656
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Owenbrown, you're on one for sure. There is parity in the NFL because there is a single elimination playoff. New Orleans, New York, Indianapolis, New England, Green Bay, Denver, St. Louis, and even fucking Pittsburgh have all won championships during that timespan. Yes, Denver, New England, New York and Pittsburgh have won multiple Titles, but of this group New England and New York are the only big market teams. There is parity in the NFL. There may or may not be parity in baseball, I dunno (who can watch that game for six months? 132 games? fuck that). The NBA is going to have teams win multiple titles in runs...best of 7 series is designed for the better overall team to win. Less upsets brah.
Agree with parity being easier in the NFL but it doesn't completely explain why baseball and hockey who also use the Best-of-Seven format have been able to produce more champions in both small and big market areas.

NBA probably is partially fixed or at least the lottery has to be while Stern has said a lot of times he favors a superstar driven league than team based. Just so happens majority of those superstars only want to play for big market or attractive cities.

Spurs are the only team to have won the title without having stars arrive in droves, be an established big market, or be an attractive place to play in recent decades.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:41 PM   #1657
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Ray Allen signs with the Heat. Better luck in 2013-14, rest of the NBA.
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Yeup took the less money and overall playing time just to have the best chance at a ring. Also gave up having a no-trade clause which he was offered by the Cs so if the Heat don't win next year, they can just dump him.

Big rumor that came out of nowhere and might have hinted at Ray leaving involved Ray Allen not getting along with Rondo recently.

Only good side for the Cs is now they have an extra $6+ million to commit to other free agents. Nevermind, just found out they don't since Allen was under the "Bird's Rights", all they have left is in the $2 million range just like Miami has left.
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Ray Allen has turned heel and joined the H.E.A.T.
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Yeah, there really is no chance they don't match that contract. And they should. With Melo-Amare-Chandler and the rest of the guys they have under contract they aren't far away from the cap. So its not like if they don't sign him they have that money to spend elsewhere.

Lin will make a lot of money for the Knicks even when he isn't as great as he was last year during that stretch.

One thing I like is that the whole Knicks team is basically signed for 3 years now. Gives them 3 years to do something with this team and if it isn't working they will have a clean slate.
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used to have total respect for Allen, even when he put on that Celts jersey. Not so much anymore.
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Oh, stop. Tons of people are saying something similar about Steve Nash right now. They want a run at a championship.
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The Heat are still a bunch of douchebags.
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used to have total respect for Allen, even when he put on that Celts jersey. Not so much anymore.
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Why did you lose respect for him? Miami is paying him less money and he's coming off the bench. It's not like he was pining to go to Boston anyways. Seattle traded him there.

Dude has been in the league 15 years and you didn't even hear about him spitting on the sidewalk. No dirty play, no PEDs, no DUIs, but now he isn't respectable because he chose to go to the team that gave him the best chance to win another title for less money than Boston was offering? Come on mane!
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What's Dwight going to do now? If the Magic don't trade him to the Nets, they won't have the cap room to sign him in the offseason. Dallas was his second pick. They missed out on Williams and they pretty much had everyone except Dirk jump ship. I don't know how attractive that situation looks now.

He might as well take a trade to L.A. and go for a championship with Nash and Kobe. Bynum's a little bit better offensively, but Dwight's a more consistent defender, which the Lakers need. Plus, Bynum checks out from time to time and I'm not sure Mike Brown can reel him in.
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Its most likely between the Nets and Lakers even though ESPN is saying the Rockets, Hawks, and Mavs are also involved. Celtics seemed to be rumored on and off for Dwight but nothing serious after Dwight resigned for the short term.

Nets biggest problem is money (cap and salary) while the Lakers biggest problem is draft picks considering how few they have left for the next couple of years. Nets have no chance once Dwight hits free agency though which is why their current offer is 3 draft picks (all 1st rounders) and 3 decent to good players.
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When has Ray Allen ever shown loyalty... come on.
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He helped the Celtics win a Title after more than a decade without winning one, if he wants to leave, let him leave. He went to Boston and did what he was expected to do, help the team win.

Also, why would players be loyal to teams? Teams will never take "loyalty" into consideration and will trade and/or release guys without much thought. So why should a player stick around and be "loyal" when teams have the "what have you done for me lately" mentality?

If a player is offered more money elsewhere, or they just want a change of scenery, good for them.
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Making a quick "Scott Roberts Exclusive" bold prediction.

Jeremy Lin will resign with the Knicks in order to be mentored by Jason Kidd. The Knicks will make too much money on Lin to not resign him.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:51 PM   #1673
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Why did you lose respect for him? Miami is paying him less money and he's coming off the bench. It's not like he was pining to go to Boston anyways. Seattle traded him there.

Dude has been in the league 15 years and you didn't even hear about him spitting on the sidewalk. No dirty play, no PEDs, no DUIs, but now he isn't respectable because he chose to go to the team that gave him the best chance to win another title for less money than Boston was offering? Come on mane!
Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now. To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.

Nash isn't coming off the bench, nor is he leaving a contender behind which he played a significant role.
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Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now. To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.

Nash isn't coming off the bench, nor is he leaving a contender behind which he played a significant role.

Hate to be the one to break this to ya, but the Celtics aren't contenders. If you don't believe me, just wait until next season. Bookmark this post if you'd like and refer to it when the time comes.
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pretty sure i heard that a couple years back when they had a sub-par season, then proceeded to make an incredible run in the playoffs. Just because they've aged doesnt mean theyre not a threat to win everytime they play.
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pretty sure i heard that a couple years back when they had a sub-par season, then proceeded to make an incredible run in the playoffs. Just because they've aged doesnt mean theyre not a threat to win everytime they play.
If the Celtics make it past the 2nd round next season, I will literally eat my hat, live on cam.
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Celtics join the growing list of teams who want Houston's Courtney Lee but similar to the Bulls, it has to be a sign-and-trade deal but the Rockets don't mind. They also don't mind if the same is done to Marcus Camby since the team stated they don't want either player returning next year.

Minnesota, Indy, Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix also are interested in Lee while Miami and New York prefer Camby.


Current trade rumor from Yahoo involving the Magic and Lakers would send Dwight and Turkoglu while the Magic would get Ron Artest and Bynum. The big catch is the trade wouldn't involve either Dwight or Bynum getting an extension which means they could leave after the next year. A few places are rumoring Bynum wouldn't consider returning to LA after the season if he's traded to begin with.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...hout-extension
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Would be stupid on the Lakers or Magics part to trade if you're not getting a commitment from the key players involved.
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Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now.

To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.

So he could still win a ring with the Celtics, yet he decided to go to Miami, where he can also win a ring.

Ok.

Let's face it, anyone who says "I lost respect for him" is a Boston fan. He did nothing wrong. He went to Boston and helped the team win a title.

Fuck him for wanting a change of scenery and environment.
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sorry buddy, bleed purple and gold here buddy. No love for the Celts, but i appreciate the game. Just calling it how i see it. If he wanted a change of scenery, he could have went to plenty of places other than Miami.
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