Tour de France 2012

**Moonax** · 08-16-2012, 12:55 PM

The w/kg output relates to climbing and is significant because it has to be sustained over a long period of time. This is why Wiggins claimed weight loss (he hasn't lost the weight he claimed he has) is a red herring. His output has increased at a rate above what we would expect as normal. Froome was producing over 7 in the Vuelta last year. Consider that the last people to produce over 7 were Rasmussen and Dertie Cont.

Sky have only been around 3 years, but most of the backroom staff are old dopers who know their way around the syringe.

WADA doesn't do the testing the UCI does. The year in which most dopers were caught (2008) was the year when the AFLD did the testing in the TDF. The UCI have actively sought to prevent the AFLD from being involved in dope testing.

Most riders and teams are dirty, the way in which omerta is enforced shows that there is no room for clean riders.

The tests are pretty ineffective. Only the dumb get caught. With a good programme you can micro-dose very effectively. For example a T:E ratio of 4:1 is allowable, that is not what occurs naturally (in real life it is 1:1), but you can of course manage your doping so you don't trigger a positive test. The same goes with EPO, if you set the benchmark at 50 then as long as you never cross the 50 threshold you will never fail a test (normal people have a hematocrit of c40). This was how Armstrong doped. HGH has a very short life which is why it is so popular.

Brailsford thinks he's the smartest man in the room so he doesn't think he will get caught. When his riders do get caught ie Hayles, then he throws them under the bus.

Sorry, but Wiggins and British cycling is as dirty as they come. History and the evidence surrounding the team shows that to be the case.

08-16-2012, 12:55 PM	#20
Moonax Sunteti chiar prost? Posts: 15,102	The w/kg output relates to climbing and is significant because it has to be sustained over a long period of time. This is why Wiggins claimed weight loss (he hasn't lost the weight he claimed he has) is a red herring. His output has increased at a rate above what we would expect as normal. Froome was producing over 7 in the Vuelta last year. Consider that the last people to produce over 7 were Rasmussen and Dertie Cont. Sky have only been around 3 years, but most of the backroom staff are old dopers who know their way around the syringe. WADA doesn't do the testing the UCI does. The year in which most dopers were caught (2008) was the year when the AFLD did the testing in the TDF. The UCI have actively sought to prevent the AFLD from being involved in dope testing. Most riders and teams are dirty, the way in which omerta is enforced shows that there is no room for clean riders. The tests are pretty ineffective. Only the dumb get caught. With a good programme you can micro-dose very effectively. For example a T:E ratio of 4:1 is allowable, that is not what occurs naturally (in real life it is 1:1), but you can of course manage your doping so you don't trigger a positive test. The same goes with EPO, if you set the benchmark at 50 then as long as you never cross the 50 threshold you will never fail a test (normal people have a hematocrit of c40). This was how Armstrong doped. HGH has a very short life which is why it is so popular. Brailsford thinks he's the smartest man in the room so he doesn't think he will get caught. When his riders do get caught ie Hayles, then he throws them under the bus. Sorry, but Wiggins and British cycling is as dirty as they come. History and the evidence surrounding the team shows that to be the case.