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View Poll Results: Who would you build your company around?
a "Kevin Nash" 23 44.23%
a "Daniel Bryan" 21 40.38%
meh/ don't care either way 8 15.38%
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #41
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why can't I build my company around someone like John Cena or Sting or something?
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #42
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a difference of two years where the main difference was in fact that Big Kev had a different hair colour
In Kevin Nash's case, hair color matters. And when you're going to build a company around somebody, look is everything.

Also, during the late 1994 to Spring 1996, Nash had his best matches.

In essence, this guy:




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Old 09-19-2012, 12:11 PM   #43
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WCW Nash was fantastic though.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:12 PM   #44
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On the mic and in terms of charisma, yes.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:15 PM   #45
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And in hair volume.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:51 PM   #46
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What size promotion is this? Am i making a WCW style product fuelled by an eccentric billionaire? Or am i starting this in a bingo hall? Where is it based?

Who is this hypothetical Nash? And the hypothetical Bryan?

The question's flawed
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:52 PM   #47
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Can i have a hypothetical Steve Austin or The Rock?

I'd be swimming in the hypothetical money!
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:32 PM   #48
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In Kevin Nash's case, hair color matters. And when you're going to build a company around somebody, look is everything.
legit have no idea if you're being serious hurrr
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:15 PM   #49
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Neither, because both are fucking stupid.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:21 PM   #50
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Neither one could carry a company, so fuck them both?
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:27 PM   #51
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Did...Did rock Bottom just echo the same sentiment as me?

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Old 09-19-2012, 04:06 PM   #52
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Depends what the cut off height is for your big man since the debate is basically Big Man vs technical wrestler. Cena himself is about half a foot smaller than Nash but isn't considered as a "Big Man" type nor is a technical wrestler and yet became a mega star.

I'd pick a "Bryan" type guy mostly because he can move merchandise since his gimmick is very popular with the crowd while being reliable to produce constant matches in the ring. Crowds also tend to get bored pretty easy from Big Men wrestlers which is why they get replaced at a faster rate than others for main event purposes.

It doesn't mean the whole company revolves around "Bryan" type wrestlers since then you lose the thing that separates your company from others who just favor Big Men.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #53
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I'm sure Bryan sells way more merch than Nash ever did. :l
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:30 PM   #54
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I'm sure Bryan sells way more merch than Nash ever did. :l
Are we counting NWO merch?
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:31 PM   #55
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why can't I build my company around someone like John Cena or Sting or something?
Well if Cena were an option he would blow both Bryan and Nash out of the water.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:11 PM   #56
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Are we counting NWO merch?
No since it would show up as a Hogan sale in WCW
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No since it would show up as a Hogan sale in WCW
Pretty Sure Hogan never sold in WCW.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:26 AM   #58
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:57 AM   #59
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D.Bryan.

Because he has 'til 5.



Honestly, I don't really understand all this hero worship of Nash. He's like the anti-Cena in that people just profess their undying devotion to him for no reason. Like loving him is obligatory. Yeah, he's a funny/charismatic person, but I was never a super huge fan of his as a wrestler... he didn't really entertain me while he was in the ring. Didn't even really do it out of it until his Outsiders days.

I also suspect if it weren't for the whole kliq/nWo thing, mostly everyone else wouldn't be such big fans either... he'd be "that one guy who Shawn Michaels used to hide behind back when he was being a chickenshit heel".

Besides, if I were building said fed, I'd be building around Danielson like ECW built around Douglas, TNA (originally) did with AJ Styles, and WCW did with Sting. He would obviously be more affordable AND be physically able to work for me for years to come.

Nash could put asses in seats off of his history, but if I'm doing my job in building/promoting correctly, I would have to worry more about WWE wanting him (Danielson) back or poaching any other talent they may take a shine to than people coming to my show for a "remember when...?" with Big Kev. Nostalgia can only get you so far, and after awhile, it'll get old.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:39 AM   #60
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I think the question was a Bryan or Nash "type".

Not literally Bryan or Nash.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:40 PM   #61
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Honestly, I don't really understand all this hero worship of Nash. He's like the anti-Cena in that people just profess their undying devotion to him for no reason. Like loving him is obligatory. Yeah, he's a funny/charismatic person, but I was never a super huge fan of his as a wrestler... he didn't really entertain me while he was in the ring. Didn't even really do it out of it until his Outsiders days.

I also suspect if it weren't for the whole kliq/nWo thing, mostly everyone else wouldn't be such big fans either... he'd be "that one guy who Shawn Michaels used to hide behind back when he was being a chickenshit heel".
You weren't a fan, so you wouldn't understand. A whole lot of people were fans of his even before he became nWo Kevin Nash. As for his in-ring work, a lot of people are entertained by that style of dominating big man wrestling. These are the reasons he was so beloved by regular fans. Dumb internet fans like us love his mic work and his shoot interviews.

I don't get the second thing in bold at all. The same could be said about so many other people and angles etc.

If it weren't for the whole Hogan bodyslamming Andre thing...

If it weren't for The Rock turning heel and becoming the Corporate Champion...

If it weren't for Steve Austin cutting his hair and becoming a psychopath....
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:47 AM   #62
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Clarification: I meant people (read: smarks, or people who thought they were) knowing about his relationship with his friends, not the actual nWo angle in and of itself.

Kinda like how Redman & Method Man made albums, movies, and TV shows together solely off the fact that they're close friends. In the realm of Hip-Hop, they had little to do with each other. People wanted to know more about the MSG curtain call and things of that nature. In this way, Nash became a point of interest for something besides just being a tall guy in a wrestling ring.

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I think the question was a Bryan or Nash "type".

Not literally Bryan or Nash.
What do you mean by Nash type, then? Would that be "an intimidating big man with a limited moveset, yet who looks the shit as opposed to a vanilla midget that can go from bell to bell that Vinnie Mac *wouldn't mistake for a superstar* " or "an immobile veteran with lots of mic skill vs a fairly character un-established younger worker"?

Changes the context of my answer to the question, but not my answer.
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What do you mean by Nash type, then? Would that be "an intimidating big man with a limited moveset, yet who looks the shit as opposed to a vanilla midget that can go from bell to bell that Vinnie Mac *wouldn't mistake for a superstar* " or "an immobile veteran with lots of mic skill vs a fairly character un-established younger worker"?
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If you ran your own wrestling promotion, would your top star be someone like Kevin Nash? A guy that was massive physically and wasn't particularly technical but made simple moves like a chop or scoop slam look devistating. Would your top guy be a guy like Daniel Bryan? Somebody who is average physically but could put on a techical wrestling masterpiece with every match?
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So...You mean exactly what it says on the tin?

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Did...Did rock Bottom just echo the same sentiment as me?

Why is the sky blood red?
The sky is blood red because you did not have an incorrect opinion on this subject, I guess
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:47 AM   #66
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