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Not a white chick. I can see how that mistake can be made though.
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I like Eli Young Band and Luke Bryan a lot.
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I also like that new Rascal Flatts song and the one they did with that chick about going out on Friday nights or something.
I'm pretty gay for country. I dont mind admitting it. I love the music. Maybe it's a Indiana thing. I like all kinds of music, but i like Country the most right now because it's simple and just good stuff. |
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Kiss Tommorow Goodbye by Luke Bryan is probably my favorite song right now. I like Lee Brice too. Hard To Love is a great song.
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Is that Nicki Minaj?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/vid...o-austin-video
A bar in Austin,TX has a winning formula to bring in crowds on Sunday nights: live music, cheap beer, free chili dogs, and "Chicken Shit Bingo". |
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Eric Church, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Keith Urban, and Dierks Bentley...
Those are the boys! |
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I like Dierks Bentley
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I like some of Jason's music as well.
Tattoos On This Town is one of my favorites of his anymore. |
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Are you and Jason buddies?
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I had a whole thing I typed out about how you are missing the point of music.
Then I realized it was a waste of time. |
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i enjoy music that is performed by people who did not write the song. though, i do not fully respect their 'musicianship' or 'artistic ability' though this varies, like how aldean seemingly writes little to nothing. out of his 4 albums, he has 1 writing credit for a song. this dude just seems like a 'creation' ala most of the pop stars around. Quote:
of course there are reasons for that. though it does say a lot, to me, that this guy has 4 albums and partially wrote only 1 song. |
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because, generally, the actor is not expected to write their lines/characters. musicians, for the most part in modern music, are seen as the writers/poets of their time. well, the 'authentic' ones. doesn't work for a good comparison.
but, i suppose the main character of this thread could be seen as an actor. |
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Exactly. They take the song and interpret it, perform it, and make it their own. There is a reason why the writer doesn't just perform it themselves or when they do it is usually inferior.
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Yah! You think Jason Aldean could write a song about taking a ride on a big green tractor? Come on. Let the pro's do that work.
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though, i must say, it works. his shows, and most 'modern' country shows, attract insane amounts of hot bitches.
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So it comes down to "expectations". It's not the same because it's not what is "expected". It's fine for actors but not for musicians because of "expectations".
You don't see why that's flimsy reasoning? |
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i expect good musicians of today to write and perform their own music? not flimsy at all.
i never once said it isn't fine for musicians to do that. do whatever works for you. i just said that i lack respect for this guy musically. |
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But it's different aspects, writing and performing. Whether it's music or anything. To broadly say that you lack respect for someone musically because despite being good at one aspect, they don't do another is literally the same thing as saying "I lack respect for that guy as far as movies go because although he's good at acting, he doesn't write or direct anything."
People can be songwriters and not singers. People can be singers and not songwriters. People can be actors and not directors or writers. People can be writers and not actors. Why would you lack respect for someone for being really good at what they do? You can't just say "Because I expect..." That doesn't mean anything. I can say I expect a good chef to use only recipes he created and if I find out he uses other people's recipes I could say I lack respect for him because of it. Wouldn't make sense. The guy cooks ridiculously good food. Of course I respect him as a cook. |
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funny how LeAnn Rhymes got loads of shit for her cheating scandal, but people are 'meh' about this. |
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to explain anyway: both those statements go with the logic that i respect this dude less than i respect those who write their own songs. both those quotes back that up. you seem to think that just a lack of respect is somehow a total lack of respect. |
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#26 |
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Probably because more people are aware of LeAnn Rhimes to give her shit and much less people know or care who Jason Aldean is. Mainstream appeal comes with people caring more about what you do, good or bad.
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#27 |
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And let me just add that this is not an attempt to defend Jason Aldean who I do not care much for and wouldn't say I "respect" anything he does.
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#28 |
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I respect him cheating on his wife.
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So on the same level, you respect an actor less than a screenwriter who also acts in the movie, right?
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#30 |
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again with that comparison and another assumption. thanks for this fun little run-around. you obviously know where i stand on the musical front, but you keep playing hard to 'get' me on something. now you want to go into some debate as to why i think movie actors and musicians are different. not worth it.
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lol. They are literally people performing. Nothing more... nothing less. They are people who perform. And for some reason you have it in your mind that one is fine just performing while the other is obligated to do more or else you lose some respect for him.
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Is it wrong? I assumed you would say 'yes' to that and I was gonna agree with you there...
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musicians ≠ actors. so the argument is rather pointless.
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I'M ONLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT MUSIC. DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE MOVIE FORUM? IS THERE A POPCORN STAND?
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Actors act.... musicians play music... but also have to be writers. lol
I can't fathom how you don't see the weird standard here. |
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exactly. that is all they are required to do. pretty simple way to describe their job. the term 'musician' has a wider umbrella. what if the producer, who also acts, has a smaller role and didn't have to go deep into it? i am not going to automatically respect someone more cause the produced/wrote and acted in the same movie. they could have been shit in their role. they could have a shit script. there may not be as much required of their character as compared to the main character, who did a great 'acting' job. there are many variables when it comes to the argument. which doesn't make the simple comparison of actors/musicians really fair. as we are talking about music and you keep wanting to move somewhere else .
it is as simple as i do not view the 2 forms of media in the same light. mainly probably because i grew up in/with music and i have never been an avid/regular movie watcher. i just don't care about it as much. |
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Totally taking out all my frustration of the whole "Psh. S/he doesn't write his/her own songs so I'm gonna shit on them." thought process some people have on you right now. No hard feelings... But your point sucks.
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Sorry. "much" respect, not "some". My bad.
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It all basically comes down to you throwing in unnecessary things under the 'musician' umbrella. Because for whatever reason you've deemed someone is not allowed to choose to sing and perform music without being judged on writing as well. Why would you not fully respect their "artistic abilities" based on what artistic abilities they choose to showcase? Or a better question, do you lack respect for songwriters if they don't perform?
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