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Old 10-19-2012, 11:25 AM   #1
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Yes, he is HOF worthy or HOF material. He was a staple of WWF during this time. If Sunny, Drew Carry amd Yokozuna deserve to be members then Ken may be a no brainer.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #2
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Yes, he is HOF worthy or HOF material. He was a staple of WWF during this time. If Sunny, Drew Carry amd Yokozuna deserve to be members then Ken may be a no brainer.
I can understand you putting Carey on the list, but Sunny and Yoko absolutely belong in the Hall.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:54 AM   #3
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I can understand you putting Carey on the list, but Sunny and Yoko absolutely belong in the Hall.
For some reason my brain read that as "Sunny and Yoko absolutely belong in Hell"
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:35 PM   #4
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I can understand you putting Carey on the list, but Sunny and Yoko absolutely belong in the Hall.
Yeah. And Carey is in a wing they specifically set aside for celebrities so you obviously can't judge them on the same merit. Sunny and Yokozuna are WAY more "HOF worthy" than Shamrock though.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:29 PM   #5
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Yeah. And Carey is in a wing they specifically set aside for celebrities so you obviously can't judge them on the same merit. Sunny and Yokozuna are WAY more "HOF worthy" than Shamrock though.
Not yet true. If anything they are on the same level. Ken's work performance and rate was also higher than Yokozuna's despite Yoko winning the big belt.

In approximately 2 years Ken...
  • Feuded with Vader
  • Feuded with The Hart Foundation (British Bulldog)
  • Fought Shawn Michaels as WWF Championship, title on the line
  • Feuded with The Rock
  • Won the 1998 King of the Ring
  • Feuded with Owen Hart
  • Was in a stable with Mankind and The Rock
  • Was a member of The Corporation
  • Was a tag team champion
  • Was a intercontinental champion
  • He held both of those belts at the same time
  • Feuded with Goldust
  • Feuded with Billy Gunn
  • Feuded with Val 'Short Penis' Venis
  • Feuded with the Undertaker
  • Feuded with Jericho
  • Brought the ankle lock submission into play which has since been used by Jack Swagger and Kurt Angle.
  • Brought 'tapping out' to WWF
  • Brought a lot of intensity

So yeah, Yokozuna had a powerful career with what may be described as a low work rate. In 2 years time Shamrock helped reshape the WWF during a state of growing fluctuation. At the time he was The World's Most Dangerous Man and this was literally true if you had experienced his UFC career up to this point in time.

Sunny was just tits and ass, a manager and a mouth piece. She was great but she was not a wrestler. Yes Sunny was as hot as the sun back then so Taker it Easy.


... and yes, Billy Gunn and Goldust deserve to be in the HOF.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:18 PM   #6
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Not yet true. If anything they are on the same level. Ken's work performance and rate was also higher than Yokozuna's despite Yoko winning the big belt.

In approximately 2 years Ken...
  • Feuded with Vader
  • Feuded with The Hart Foundation (British Bulldog)
  • Fought Shawn Michaels as WWF Championship, title on the line
  • Feuded with The Rock
  • Won the 1998 King of the Ring
  • Feuded with Owen Hart
  • Was in a stable with Mankind and The Rock
  • Was a member of The Corporation
  • Was a tag team champion
  • Was a intercontinental champion
  • He held both of those belts at the same time
  • Feuded with Goldust
  • Feuded with Billy Gunn
  • Feuded with Val 'Short Penis' Venis
  • Feuded with the Undertaker
  • Feuded with Jericho
  • Brought the ankle lock submission into play which has since been used by Jack Swagger and Kurt Angle.
  • Brought 'tapping out' to WWF
  • Brought a lot of intensity
You're listing feuding with Billy Gunn, Goldust and Val Venis as reasons for him being more HOF worthy than Yokozuna??? lol

Yes he got an "In Your House" PPV title shot against Shawn Michaels (Forget the fact that it was one match and ended up as nothing more than a throwaway match ala Del Wilkes' shot against Bret Hart before). Yokozuna main evented WrestleMania 2 years in a row. And was actually the first heel to ever do so. He was revolutionary as far as monster heels go. Ken Shamrock never got near that level. He came in with a lot of hype, reffing the Austin-Hart match and in the end his WWF career ended up being underwhelming.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:49 PM   #7
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You're listing feuding with Billy Gunn, Goldust and Val Venis as reasons for him being more HOF worthy than Yokozuna??? lol

Yes he got an "In Your House" PPV title shot against Shawn Michaels (Forget the fact that it was one match and ended up as nothing more than a throwaway match ala Del Wilkes' shot against Bret Hart before). Yokozuna main evented WrestleMania 2 years in a row. And was actually the first heel to ever do so. He was revolutionary as far as monster heels go. Ken Shamrock never got near that level. He came in with a lot of hype, reffing the Austin-Hart match and in the end his WWF career ended up being underwhelming.
That is less than accurate. The statement is not a statement to belittle Yokozuna yet rather a statement that they are both deserving.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:22 PM   #8
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Sunny was just tits and ass, a manager and a mouth piece. She was great but she was not a wrestler. Yes Sunny was as hot as the sun back then so Taker it Easy.
... What does her not being a wrestler have to do with it?

Do you think Mean Gene Okurlund or Howard Finkel deserve a spot in the HOF less because they weren't wrestlers?
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:30 PM   #9
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I would put him in, because as others have already said, HOF has a lot of people in it who either weren't great wrestler or weren't wrestlers at all. I thought Shamrock was a good wrestler and enjoyed his matches and think he should be in the hall just for the fact that he helped bridge WWE and MMA (and I believe, helped UFC gain more fans through exposure in the WWF)
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