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Old 12-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
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Well they just weren't able to get Punk over to the same level as Cena. It came down to booking (and maybe the fact that Punk just isn't the type of guy who can be a "franchise player".) They need to get some guys to that level first and then they can think about a Cena turn.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:10 PM   #2
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Well they just weren't able to get Punk over to the same level as Cena. It came down to booking (and maybe the fact that Punk just isn't the type of guy who can be a "franchise player".) They need to get some guys to that level first and then they can think about a Cena turn.
THANK YOU! This is why I've been against a Cena heel turn. You'd need to have a franchise level face. People already cheer Punk and boo Cena. All they'd be doing is losing merchandise money.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:51 PM   #3
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THANK YOU! This is why I've been against a Cena heel turn. You'd need to have a franchise level face. People already cheer Punk and boo Cena. All they'd be doing is losing merchandise money.
Top Notch Heel Cena still sells merchandise.

HHH has never had an issue making money as a dominant Heel. Let Cena use that formula.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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Top Notch Heel Cena still sells merchandise.

HHH has never had an issue making money as a dominant Heel. Let Cena use that formula.
Kinda hard for Cena to pull off wearing "badass shirts" when he's been wearing rainbow inspirational poster shirts for the past 7 years.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:15 PM   #5
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Kinda hard for Cena to pull off wearing "badass shirts" when he's been wearing rainbow inspirational poster shirts for the past 7 years.
Again.

Hogan. WCW. 1996.

Hogan was a far bigger face and legend than Cena was, and like Cena, had been a face for numerous years.

If Hogan could make the turn, then so can Cena.
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Again.

Hogan. WCW. 1996.

Hogan was a far bigger face and legend than Cena was, and like Cena, had been a face for numerous years.

If Hogan could make the turn, then so can Cena.
Different time period. Different demographic. And when Hogan turned there were faces that were already huge. They didn't turn him and then try to get someone to "fill his spot". There were already guys at that level.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:06 PM   #7
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Different time period. Different demographic. And when Hogan turned there were faces that were already huge. They didn't turn him and then try to get someone to "fill his spot". There were already guys at that level.
Bullshit.

WCW was the dumps. Sting was a "star" but was hardly a franchise face. Flair was old. WCW was dying.

They turned Hogan and made Sting a Legend. Think about that. In the Months before the NWO was formed Sting and Luger were in the tag division. 6 Months later sting was the hottest commodity in wrestling and was the face of the company. He was the driving force behind the biggest boon in wrestling history.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:10 PM   #8
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Different time period. Different demographic. And when Hogan turned there were faces that were already huge. They didn't turn him and then try to get someone to "fill his spot". There were already guys at that level.
Also, hate the "DIFFERENT TIME BLAH BLAH"

Wrestling is cyclical. Same Shit every few years and it works. Turning Cena Heel will make money like turning Hogan Heel made money and turning Macho made money and turning Andre made money and....
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Different time period. Different demographic. And when Hogan turned there were faces that were already huge. They didn't turn him and then try to get someone to "fill his spot". There were already guys at that level.
To be honest, I don't think Ryback is all that far off from that level. Kids have take a liking to him.

Here is what I would do anyways:

-Have Cena turn heel against The Rock at Wrestlemania. (Cena goes over)
-Cena can have another match with The Rock at Summerslam perhaps (rubber match).

Cena could also get into brief feuds with past legends such as Triple H and Undertaker..........established faces. While this is happening, you can continue to build up guys like Ryback, Sheamus, The Miz, and Randy Orton.

Think back to 2001:

When Austin had his heel run, guys like Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit weren't bona-fide main-event guys yet.......atleast to the extent that guys like The Rock, HHH, and Undertaker were. However - they still feuded with Austin and got over big time.

Perhaps heel Cena could have that same effect on guys like Sheamus and Ryback. Orton is already at that level.
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Again.

Hogan. WCW. 1996.

Hogan was a far bigger face and legend than Cena was, and like Cena, had been a face for numerous years.

If Hogan could make the turn, then so can Cena.
Agreed. Did Hogan wearing Yellow and red somehow prevent a heel turn? NO.

In fact it helped drive home the turn. Seeing Hogan in black blew my fucking mind.

Take Cena out of Jorts and silly outfits with a hat, and you have something different to contrast his former face self.
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Kinda hard for Cena to pull off wearing "badass shirts" when he's been wearing rainbow inspirational poster shirts for the past 7 years.
I dont even understand what the point of this is.
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