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#41 |
Hey Mister!
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Daniel Bryan
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#42 |
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Cesaro has won me over, I didn't care for him at all when he debuted, but two weeks in a row he has been my mark out moment of Raw.
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#43 |
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Haven't really watched many of his matches, tend to zone out or do something else because he's a pretty boring character. But that gif someone posted in 100,000 replies of his catching til-a-whirl backbreaker on Kofi was pretty great. It looked completely flawless.
Credit to Kofi as well of course who's another I'm not really a fan of. |
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#44 |
ROCK SMASH!!!!!!
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#45 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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Punk > Ziggler > Orton > Kidd > Bryan > Cesaro
"Sensational 6" IMO..... |
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#46 |
The Mr. Hanky of TPWW
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wrong... Ziggler. Period.
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#47 |
Cranky Kong
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I like that there are so many people that are in this discussion. Solid in-ring talent in WWE right now.
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#48 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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#49 |
Needs to be 20% cooler
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#50 |
Resident drug enabler
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Blandy is the best in-ring storyteller on the main roster.
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#51 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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I love how much faster Randy's in ring work has become. He was sooooo boring and slow when he was feuding with Cena and HHH in 2009
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#52 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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I like to think Christian brought it out of him in their feud last year.
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#53 |
Alive
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Orton's matches are incredibly formulaic.
That's all I'm saying, because I don't want to be arguing against this sea of wrongness most of you are happily swimming in. |
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Orton's not the most technical or spectacular guy in the ring, but as no 1 wwf fan said he's the best storyteller. He's reliable and works well with everyone. His matches with Mark Henry were absolutely brilliant.
Sheamus hasn't got enough love in this thread, he's really versatile. |
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#55 |
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Balancing a barely stunned opponent on the middle rope, by their feet, for sometimes up to ten seconds, is some pretty smooth storytelling.
I couldn't stay away. |
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#56 |
Narc stole my star
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WWE matches are formulaic, period.
Guys hit their signature moves in the same order every match, more or less. See every Cena or Rey match this decade. Hasn't stopped those guys having some blinding matches, ie Jericho/Rey, Cena/Umaga, Orton/Christian. |
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#57 |
So fucking sexy.
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The only story I've ever seen Orton tell is "How To Make Millions Being An Absolute Smoop".
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#58 |
So fucking sexy.
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And he tells it in every match in which he is terrible at professional wrestling...but I repeat myself.
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#59 |
Resident drug enabler
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#60 |
So fucking sexy.
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#61 |
Resident drug enabler
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Why because the guy doesn't move for like 10 seconds?
You mean like every top rope move ever? |
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#62 |
Alive
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#63 |
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It's better since he began throwing his opponent out onto the apron himself, rather than just have them conveniantly find themselves in that position, which is something I still don't really like about the 619.
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#64 |
Alive
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#65 |
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While we're at it, how about the RKO being retarded?
When he puts somebody through a table with it, why is he awarded the win? He slams his own shoulders through the table, followed by, if we're very lucky, his opponent's stomach. When he RKOs somebody onto steel steps, how does the move become more potent? His shoulders are the only part that hits the steel, and in actuality his opponent's head is travelling less distance when there's something to break their fall. Also, he clotheslines like a little girl, and his Thesz press is more of a "how would like my big gay groinal region in your face?" thrust. |
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#66 |
So fucking sexy.
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#67 |
Resident drug enabler
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lol. Both moves require you to believe that they're immobilized. There are about a million "unrealistic" wrestling moves that require you to just ignore the fact that it's silly. The Undertaker walks on the fucking rope with a fully conscious guy's arm in his hand and never just gets nudged enough to force him to lose his balance...
He must be one of the worst in-ring psychologists of all time. |
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#68 |
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A defence of "other moves are also somewhat retarded" doesn't cut it.
The way the 619 is set up is usually just as bad as the middle rope DDT. This just means both of them are bad. |
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#69 |
So fucking sexy.
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That is not a defense.
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#70 |
Resident drug enabler
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Okay...
You used it to knock the guy's in-ring storytelling. Are you gonna knock everyone else's in-ring storytelling because of unrealistic moves? |
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#71 |
So fucking sexy.
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The embarrassing moves? Of course.
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#72 |
Resident drug enabler
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Like The Undertaker's tightrope walk.
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#73 |
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I will happily knock John Cena for ignoring the effects of whatever moves his opponent has done, during the final stages of the match. I am fully aware the likes of Hogan also did this, but he was also horrible in the ring.
An example of somebody selling while also winning the match, would be Lesnar giving Angle the F5 on one leg. If Cena has ever done anything like this, I must've missed it. I will knock Rey Mysterio matches, when it's impossible to tell who was the one doing the move, until the commentators call it. |
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#74 |
So fucking sexy.
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#75 |
Resident drug enabler
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You're off on a tangent now, Jabba.
I'm just talking about storytelling based on a signature move. You can't knock Orton's psychology because of one move you find unrealistic without knocking a shitload of guys who you'd probably agree are great. |
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#76 |
So fucking sexy.
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...What the fuck are you talking about?
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#77 |
Resident drug enabler
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I was just bringing it up because it was a point I made that got ignored. Taker is a guy who has an unrealistic signature move and you're asked to remember it's not real. It's not meant to be judged like a real fight.
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#78 |
Resident drug enabler
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#79 |
Tîm Defaid
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Loved Cesaro's match with Sheamus the other week. My two favourite guys to watch at the moment. 3 hour Raws started a bit dull but they've really been making the most of the time lately.
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Quote:
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If "telling a story" is accomplished by cracking open the skulls of the audience and spooning out their suspension of disbelief, then I guess I'm just plain wrong. |
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