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Old 12-16-2012, 12:51 PM   #81
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:51 PM   #82
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:52 PM   #83
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:52 PM   #84
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Are you retarded?? Serious question..

FOX is a national channel with three subchannels. they pretty much made FUEL TV "UFC TV" and it is great.. Much better than if ESPN had gotten the deal and took creative control from the Zuffa brass.. A national tv deal is a much better gig..

How do you not understand that??

Also, how do you not understand why I would want "the worldwide leader in sports" to cover the fastest growing sport in the world rather than card games, board games, and a "sport" that you can eat nachos and drink beer while "competing"??
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FuelTV. FuelTV is great for hardcore MMA guys, but how many casual fans is UFC gaining from FuelTV programming?

TUF is getting worse ratings on FX and only gets to be on the big boy network once in a awhile. Does UFC have any programming on the Fox Sports Net channels?
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Is it possible ESPN doesn't cover it more because UFC isn't as "hot" as you think it is because of their jackass president and thug fighters who turn off a large chunk of potential viewers and have prematurely capped their growth?
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ESPN doesn't need UFC and isn't going to put up with Dana's shit just to get clip shows and small cards nobody will watch and for the occasional big card. No doubt they'd like to have UFC on their network, but it isn't like an NFL/NBA/MLB/NCAA contract that would actually cost them a shitload of money if they didn't work it out.
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No, dude.. ESPN doesn't cover because of politics, as already mentioned in this thread..

TUF is down on ratings cause no one wants to watch it on friday nights.. They need to move it back to weds.. Also, this coming season will have huge ratings cause of Jones and Sonnen..

Also, 4 events a year on FOX and 4-8 events on FX/Fuel, on top of the 12 PPV's a year is not minor league dude.. They are putting out twice the product they had before the FOX deal.. Also, they own Strikeforce so Zuffa is also on Showtime..

And yes, FSN shows the same things Fuel does (Unleashed, Ultimate Insider, UFC Tonight) they just show it like 3 days a week, not 7..
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I never realized James Steele was an ESPN executive..

To be such a fucking idiot, that sure is a sweet job..
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ESPN doesn't need UFC and isn't going to put up with Dana's shit just to get clip shows and small cards nobody will watch and for the occasional big card. No doubt they'd like to have UFC on their network, but it isn't like an NFL/NBA/MLB/NCAA contract that would actually cost them a shitload of money if they didn't work it out.
I DONT WANT CARDS ON ESPN

I just don;t understand why they would rather show the bullshit filler I have mentioned numerous times, rather than covering MMA..
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ESPN doesn't give a fuck what you want. You'll watch Monday Night Football, a bunch of Bowl Games, NBA games, MLB games, and the NCAA Cricket Finals and fucking like it.
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Perfect example, at noon CST, ESPN will be showing bowling.. There were two events this weekend, one last weekend, and a PPV in 2 weeks.. Why would they not do MMA Live during this time?? I know plenty of guys who love MMA but don't watch football..

Doesn't make any sense to me..
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Perfect example, at noon CST, ESPN will be showing bowling.. There were two events this weekend, one last weekend, and a PPV in 2 weeks.. Why would they not do MMA Live during this time?? I know plenty of guys who love MMA but don't watch football..

Doesn't make any sense to me..
I know a bunch of guys who watch football, but do not give 3 drizzling shits about MMA.
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MMA is fading in popularity. All the douchebags ran out of money buying Affliction t-shirts and realized neck tattoo's are for fags. Plus they all got beat up by real tough guys. It's just a niche sport and it'll fade like Poker has.
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Don't read it, bitch.. Not like you add anything to conversation anyway..
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Why does it seem Kris P always gets destroyed in any debate he has on here?
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Don't really see how I got "destroyed"..

It has been proven that ESPN doesn't cover MMA simply because UFC canceled the deal with them, meaning, merely out of spite..

IMO it is hurting their product to continue to show things that aren't sports while ignoring the fastest growing sport in the world and is ridiculous and petty IMO..

No one has proved otherwise..
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The other person, beside myself, to even bring "facts" into the conversation, was NBT and he was arguing for my side..

This is more of a case of you having nothing to add after I pointed out you said something completely inaccurate..
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It's a FACT that MMA like NASCAR and Poker has gone down in popularity.
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Where is there proof ESPN quit covering MMA because of the deal falling through?
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Where is there proof ESPN quit covering MMA because of the deal falling through?
The timeline for which it happened.. The fact that they moved MMA Live from Thursday nights at 10pm cst to Fridays at 1am cst AS SOON AS the deal with FOX was inked..

All the things that brought me to post this thread..
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That isn't proof. That is the ramblings off a pissy MMA fanboy.
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Yeah, it's really just one big coincidence..
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Paranoia isn't proof. It is possible that MMA isn't as popular as you think? How many of the threads for UFC cards that you start just end up being you talking to yourself? Most of them barring PPVs and the UFC on FOX shows.
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You are arguing for the sake of arguing..

You are asking me what proof there is that ESPN stopped covering UFC at that time besides the FACT they stopped covering them at that time??
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No. I am asking you to prove that ESPN moved the MMA Live program because UFC signed the deal with Fox. You can't do it because you are just a pissy fanboy who is upset they moved the show to the time you are usually busy plowing pussy like snow in Manitoba.
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Go back to the wrestling forum..
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So you admit that you are just being a whiny bitch because ESPN isn't treating your favorite sport the way you want.
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For the next 2 weeks during the Thursday 10pm timeslot they have college bowl games going on. Pretty sure those will get more views than your MMA program. Pretty sure they have 2 more bowl games the following weeks but the online television guide does not go that far. But damn for them going to Fox because ESPN really cares!
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So you admit that you are just being a whiny bitch because ESPN isn't treating your favorite sport the way you want.
The point of this thread was for me to complain that they don't cover it the way I want them to..

Good job..

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For the next 2 weeks during the Thursday 10pm timeslot they have college bowl games going on. Pretty sure those will get more views than your MMA program. Pretty sure they have 2 more bowl games the following weeks but the online television guide does not go that far. But damn for them going to Fox because ESPN really cares!
WTF point are you trying to prove??

Sometimes NFL Live is preempted by a live event, also..

GREAT

Yr point is??
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You said ESPN moved MMA Live and is screwing UFC because they signed the deal with FOX. I said prove it, and you've been stumbling like a drunken piece of trash since.
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I never said ESPN is screwing UFC.. I said they are screwing the fans and themselves..
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I am so angry that i cant watch cricket on espn at a time that pleases me. It is one of the most popular sports in the world but espn is screwing them because it is not on at a reasonable time. Therefore, I am going to whine about it and prove with no facts thats cricket is getting screwed.
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