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Old 02-01-2013, 08:18 PM   #81
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The Rock-HHH iron man match was not that good.

Even though HHH single-handedly made The Rock in it.
Might be a bit of a stretch to say that match or Triple H was what made The Rock. However I think their feud did become elevated into a mega feud with that match similar to Mania 15 being what elevated the Stone Cold-Rock feud.

Foley and Stone Cold have the strongest claims to having made or help made The Rock.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:24 PM   #82
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how exactly? Two of the greatest workers of all time, one being the greatest of all time doesn't guarantee excellence. How long has it been since you even watched the match? I love Bret and I worship Shawn/I like them both more than Triple H but other than it being "an impressive feat", the WrestleMania XII Iron Man match outside of the last minute and the overtime period simply wasn't all that good. Notice how none of the other Iron Man matches after it ever finished 1-0?
Everyone knows an iron man match isn't gonna end with a difference more than 1 point. Whether it's 1-0 or 6-5. I prefer the one that came off like a test of wills and endurance between two of the best ever to the one that featured two guys who are supposed to be at the top of their game getting pinned left and right out of nowhere just to rack up ultimately meaningless points.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #83
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He pretty much pulled a Hogan and made himself the focus of the show. WWF's era of pulling massive ratings ended shortly after.
Yeah, author James Guttman argues laboriously for this point in his book World Wrestling Insanity.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wb9...stling&f=false
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Everyone knows an iron man match isn't gonna end with a difference more than 1 point. Whether it's 1-0 or 6-5. I prefer the one that came off like a test of wills and endurance between two of the best ever to the one that featured two guys who are supposed to be at the top of their game getting pinned left and right out of nowhere just to rack up ultimately meaningless points.
yeah but getting to that point where the difference of 1 point comes into play, how it's going to finish is what it's all about and Hunter/Rock did that in a more entertaining and exciting fashion. After the Mania 12 match and what they did, if Shawn had tapped out to the sharpshooter during that final countdown, it'd have been like "oh" and that'd have been about it since the entire build was geared towards Shawn winning/"the boyhood dream coming true", it'd have been a bit of a wet fart. With HHH/Rock you had no idea what the shit was going to happen and not in a Russo kind of way.
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Though the ending was quite Russo-esque.

And it's not like having a pretty good idea of who's coming out on top hampers the match. See: The Undertaker having classic matches with predictable outcomes four years straight. It was a culmination. Like Austin over HBK. Like Hogan in the 80's/90's. Like a ton of classic matches. And like I said, I'll take the story of two guys looking like they are absolutely incapable of being pinned or made to submit for an hour to two top guys getting pinned at the first sign of a power move every five minutes. The journey was better with HBK and Bret. The clusterfuck ending didn't exactly save it.
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clusterfucks are the best when done properly, which WWE has always been pretty spot on with, it doesn't have to be Russo-esque as long as it makes sense, flows, is timed right. WWE's clusterfucks are usually controlled chaos meant to build and build until the payoff, a Russo clusterfuck is throwing a bunch of surprises at you simply for the sake of trying to surprise you. And no it absolutely doesn't hamper when you know who's going over quite a lot of the time but I just don't think the match was strong enough to cover that, like there was more focus on "look at what these guys are doing, what athletes!" and forgot a bit about making it exciting. I completely understand the HBK/Bret story and what they were telling and I'm sure they could probably have even torn the house down under the exact same circumstances on another occasion. But 12 just didn't really click for me in a "wow this is really fucking good" kind of way.
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and believe me, I want it to. Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart in the main event of WrestleMania for an hour should be the greatest professional wrestling match of all time.
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The ending of the WM12 Bret/Shawn Ironman Match definitely "devalues" the match itself, somewhat.

But it was very good.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:27 PM   #89
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I watched the video when Bret says all this, and you can tell he still hasn't gotten over the whole Montreal issue.
Decided before video was clicked.
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HHH was probably a huge asshole to Bret in past. Bret is a better wrestler, but HHH has had great matches.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:10 PM   #91
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I hated the Michaels/HHH era DX. Unless they were intentionally trying to look/dress/act like the most annoying frat douchebags you've ever seen, then they were a right pair of weirdos. HHH going with Chyna before settling down with a beard in SMH makes sense if the whole DX thing was for him to act as gay as possible in public without ever having to come out.

Still, I enjoyed a lot of his more serious turn in 2000. It was his return to participate in the absolute shitting over the Undisputed Championship in 2002 that put me off him.
DX were heels when they started. They wanted to piss you off. Remember how Bret kept calling Shawn a faggot?

I assume Triple H just liked having a road partner in multiple aspects.

Triple H had the title for 1 fucking month before he dropped it to Hogan. How in the fuck did he shit on the belt? Or are you bitching about he single handedly legitimized a new world title and made it the premier title in the WWE in less than a year?
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Triple H was far more entertaining and drew more money than Bret ever dreamed of. Bret was technically a better wrestler, but so were Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero and a whole host of other guys who aren't in Triple H's league. Bret has always been the biggest mark in the business and it's not surprising he's relegating himself to making snide remarks to try to keep himself relevant. I really don't dislike Bret either, but really, it's been over 15 years since the "screw job", stop throwing a fucking temper tantrum.
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and believe me, I want it to. Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart in the main event of WrestleMania for an hour should be the greatest professional wrestling match of all time.
It is
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Triple H was far more entertaining and drew more money than Bret ever dreamed of. Bret was technically a better wrestler, but so were Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero and a whole host of other guys who aren't in Triple H's league. Bret has always been the biggest mark in the business and it's not surprising he's relegating himself to making snide remarks to try to keep himself relevant. I really don't dislike Bret either, but really, it's been over 15 years since the "screw job", stop throwing a fucking temper tantrum.
I'd agree a lot with this. Sure, there's guys who are better "technical" wrestlers. But Guerrero aside, those guys mentioned had no personality and were utterly boring. This is basically just the "define wrestler" argument all over again, but to me a wrestler should be entertaining in all aspects, and to me Triple H fits that model. Triple H is entertaining, Bret Hart bores me.
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Triple H was far more entertaining and drew more money than Bret ever dreamed of. Bret was technically a better wrestler, but so were Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero and a whole host of other guys who aren't in Triple H's league. Bret has always been the biggest mark in the business and it's not surprising he's relegating himself to making snide remarks to try to keep himself relevant. I really don't dislike Bret either, but really, it's been over 15 years since the "screw job", stop throwing a fucking temper tantrum.
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HHH Jericho Last Man Standing at Fully Loaded 2000 was a great match.
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HHH Jericho Last Man Standing at Fully Loaded 2000 was a great match.
Another gimmick match.... but in all actuality fucking epic. I remember being blown away by that much. It was super intense.... the only shame is that Jericho didn't go over... that was when the fans were rabid for someone new to rise to the top. Such an awesome awesome match. HHH in his total beast prime, no quad injury, before he put on too much muscle and became slow and plodding. Totally forgot how amazing this match was.
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"technical wrestler" is just a polite term for boring as fuck, IMO.

HHH had more great matches in 2000 than Bret had in his entire career.
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After 3 pages can't we all agree that they were both boring in their own ways and their backstage politicking ruined aspects of the business? They're both good and terrible, neither in the "great echelon" populated by men in the business who were better than them in all respects. They were good, not great and I think that's the end of it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:34 PM   #107
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After 3 pages can't we all agree that they were both boring in their own ways and their backstage politicking ruined aspects of the business?
Backstage politics are awesome, man. I don't know what you're talking about.
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"technical wrestler" is just a polite term for boring as fuck, IMO.

HHH had more great matches in 2000 than Bret had in his entire career.
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Bret Hart continues to rip Triple H. This is getting silly now.

He says Triple H isn't in the Top 1000 Greatest Wrestlers of ALL TIME. I mean, Top 1000.

He says last year's HHH/Undertaker Hell in a Cell match at WM28 was a 4 out of 10, and that's "being generous".

Man, fuck him. Enough of this.


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lol@"I never saw him contribute an idea". Forgot the screwjob, you old fart?
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Bret Hart continues to rip Triple H. This is getting silly now.

He says Triple H isn't in the Top 1000 Greatest Wrestlers of ALL TIME. I mean, Top 1000.

He says last year's HHH/Undertaker Hell in a Cell match at WM28 was a 4 out of 10, and that's "being generous".

Man, fuck him. Enough of this.


http://www.layfieldreport.com/Bret-H...-in-top-1.news
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lol@"I never saw him contribute an idea". Forgot the screwjob, you old fart?
Apparently, he's still not over it (as is evidence by...Ponies), so how could he forget it?
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I think Bret is rating this guy from the other side of the business. He's a peer, not a fan, and the opinion isn't really worth much.

Fact is, Triple H is probably the best heel in recent history, you'd have to go back decades and find some dead guy that "did it for 20 years at the garden" or some shit to find a match.

Love Bret, don't think he's being bitter, just super critical. Don't think the opinion holds much weight as a peer.
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When did Bret Hart wrestle Triple H back in '92 or '93?

Wait. Bret says he can't talk about Triple H today, because he hasn't stepped in the ring with him, so he's judging him based on what he brought to the table back when he was Hunter Hearst Helmsley, or was just turning into Triple H.

Good one, Bret.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:16 PM   #115
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Looking back in time, though, I can understand why Bret is still angry at HHH. It was Hunter who jabbed Bret the most back in late '97, not Shawn.

I still remember when HHH was going to face Bret on RAW, and he said "Bret, I'm younger than you, I'm better than you and I'm bigger than you...in more ways than one".

And when the Bret Hart "midget" came out, HHH was the one who said "Bret, we knew you were short in charisma, short on talent..."

So I get it.

But still.
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Triple H is extremely overrated in the grand scheme of things. Saying he hasn't had any great matches is a little silly though.
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very mediocre guy (held raw hostage for a year and had nuclear heat) who never contributed (made rock and austin look like millions)
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Man, I think Bret is just one of those guys you're at a big party with. And you're just wondering, "Is Bret gonna do it again?" You're having a good time, and everything's going well. Just when you think everything is going to end well, Bret just starts randomly ripping into people out of the blue, and everyone gives you the look, as if to say, "Yeah, thanks for bringing the hit man, you jerk, now the whole party is ruined."
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