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Old 06-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #321
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:37 PM   #322
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Just wanted to point out that he was referring to a feature that will cause the XBone to not play games when he said it wouldn't play games well.

Thought that was pretty obvious.
I realize that but well is subjective. It will still play game just as well except you have to have the Kinect connected. Put it in a cabinet if you're that concerned while it's still plugged in. Also playing porn at a lower volume so that the Kinect can't hear probably isn't a bad thing.
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Shit man, you have to plug in ALL the parts of a game system for it to work? What a rip!
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So what happens when they open up a PS4 and there's a camera? They haven't show the console

And how in the the hell do you know that the XBone doesn't play games well?
1. I'll repeat that I think that is a dumb hypothetical. What would you do if you opened up your wallet and found a microphone stitched into it in such a way that if you removed it, your wallet fell apart and stopped working? You'd buy a different fucking wallet wouldn't you. If the PS4 has a camera and a microphone secretly built into it, I'd be just as outraged. I'm not trying to just bash the Xbox and praise Sony here. But it's dumb to use a question like "what if the other was just like it?" when there's no reason to think it is so far.


2. Requires a peripheral in order to work. A dumb gimmicky peripheral at that, that didn't catch on last generation and isn't going to catch on this generation at the rate they're going. Requires an internet connection once per 24 hours or will not work. Checks for an internet connection once every hour if you're on a different console. Was discovered today that part of their patent was for the camera, stating the kinect won't work if the face of the person playing is not visible when it checks. If this feature is included, there goes the idea of taping over the camera that some people had. Their anti-used games crusade is basically geared toward keeping people from playing games unless they buy them brand new.


There's basically a slew of features that will PREVENT people from playing games. These are not consumer friendly features. These are corporate-friendly features. If the challenge is "Which console is better for playing games on?" then PS4 wins hands down based on the current evidence. You mean I can just plug the fucking thing in and play? Deal.
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Just wanted to point out that he was referring to a feature that will cause the XBone to not play games when he said it wouldn't play games well.

Thought that was pretty obvious.
Yeah. Not talking about the hardware. As far as graphical and processing potential goes, the hardware of both systems is more than adequate and I don't place one over the other in that regard.
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1. I'll repeat that I think that is a dumb hypothetical. What would you do if you opened up your wallet and found a microphone stitched into it in such a way that if you removed it, your wallet fell apart and stopped working? You'd buy a different fucking wallet wouldn't you. If the PS4 has a camera and a microphone secretly built into it, I'd be just as outraged. I'm not trying to just bash the Xbox and praise Sony here. But it's dumb to use a question like "what if the other was just like it?" when there's no reason to think it is so far.


2. Requires a peripheral in order to work. A dumb gimmicky peripheral at that, that didn't catch on last generation and isn't going to catch on this generation at the rate they're going. Requires an internet connection once per 24 hours or will not work. Checks for an internet connection once every hour if you're on a different console. Was discovered today that part of their patent was for a camera that won't work if the face of the person playing is not visible when it checks. If this feature is included, there goes the idea of taping over the camera that some people had. Their anti-used games crusade is basically geared toward keeping people from playing games unless they buy them brand new.


There's basically a slew of features that will PREVENT people from playing games. These are not consumer friendly features. These are corporate-friendly features. If the challenge is "Which console is better for playing games on?" then PS4 wins hands down based on the current evidence. You mean I can just plug the fucking thing in and play? Deal.
1. First off until all features are revealed we cannot rely on anything except hyptheticals, even dumb ones. Continuing who says it's just a secret and they're not just letting Microsoft take the hit until they bandwagon. There's no reason to think it isn't like the other thus far either.

2. Say hi to the immensely successful Wii, or any other console that requires a peripheral to play it i.e. a controller. Also, the 24 hour thing is nothing but spout from Phil Harrison.

Based on current evidence, I don't have enough evidence.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:59 PM   #327
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You need a controller to play the Wii? That shit'll never sell.

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Old 06-07-2013, 07:00 PM   #328
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I wouldn't count a controller as a peripheral, that's like counting the plug as an extra.

The Kinect is an extra that's pretending to be necessary.
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I wouldn't count a controller as a peripheral, that's like counting the plug as an extra.

The Kinect is an extra that's pretending to be necessary.
If we had a Holodeck you wouldn't dispute a camera.
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The definition of "necessary" seems kind of arbitrary here, if I'm being serious. The Wii largely relied on an IR sensor. Probably wasn't necessary unless they wanted games to play a certain way.
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The definition of "necessary" seems kind of arbitrary here, if I'm being serious. The Wii largely relied on an IR sensor. Probably wasn't necessary unless they wanted games to play a certain way.
Well the waggle waggle thing was a key feature of the Wii. So in that case it was very important. The Kinect doesn't do anything you can't do with a controller, remote, or phone (via smartglass). Of all these input methods the controller is the one to be most used, with Kinect only partially supported in core games and housing a pathetic games library of its own.

Imagine Smartglass being required on Xbox One, when it adds absolutely nothing really. If every X1 game required the Kinect for some reason, congrads Microsoft made the damn thing a necessity. But I don't see that happening.

I can care less about the Big Brother shit people pretend to be angry about. Far as I know the government is well aware of my porn preferences and has been for years. Whatever. What bothers me is watching some piece of shit camera, however hi tech it honestly is, get promoted like it 'changed the game' last time around. It's... annoying.
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Makes no sense but do what you gotta do.
Nothing about achievements makes sense.
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Well the waggle waggle thing was a key feature of the Wii. So in that case it was very important. The Kinect doesn't do anything you can't do with a controller, remote, or phone (via smartglass). Of all these input methods the controller is the one to be most used, with Kinect only partially supported in core games and housing a pathetic games library of its own.

Imagine Smartglass being required on Xbox One, when it adds absolutely nothing really. If every X1 game required the Kinect for some reason, congrads Microsoft made the damn thing a necessity. But I don't see that happening.

I can care less about the Big Brother shit people pretend to be angry about. Far as I know the government is well aware of my porn preferences and has been for years. Whatever. What bothers me is watching some piece of shit camera, however hi tech it honestly is, get promoted like it 'changed the game' last time around. It's... annoying.
Again, this seems like an ass-backwards justification for why one is okay and one is not.
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I'd probably respond to the smartglass thing as I did with the Wii U thing. Meh.
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I wouldn't count a controller as a peripheral, that's like counting the plug as an extra.

The Kinect is an extra that's pretending to be necessary.
Exactly. You buy a DVD player, you NEED the remote. You could just use the face buttons, but usually only for basic functions like on/off, play and eject.

However, you shouldn't need an external, usb powered popcorn popper. Sounds like a quaint idea, but not having this should not prevent you from using the device/media/TV combination.

The "privacy invasion" stuff always happens in waves, and will fade to the background. The major issue is bogging the product down with "features" nobody gives a fuck about. "XBOX ON" sounds all well and good, but what if you're mute? I shouldn't NEED to have my face scanned like I'm entering C.O.N.T.R.O.L. just to play a single player game of Pac-Man to kill 15 minutes or so. And, what if the Xbone Kinnect has the same issues of the current gen Kinnect as it pertains to sometimes having issues with not always detecting darker skinned people? If I want to jump into a game of Halo, I have to hope the system doesn't freak out like a neglected puppy unless I have every light in the room on and standing in direct sunlight.

I've already voiced.. er... typed my displeasure in having to cart my current 360 over somone elses house to connect to the internet so I can update permissions on my system to be able to play single player games I've downloaded offline, so imagine what I must think about making more hoops to jump through for even physical copy. Having you check in once a day like Microsoft is your PO to use anything seems like a slap in the face. Even if this is spposedly conjecture, it is conjecture that hasn't been shot down.

Any and every thing the EXTRA peripheral is "needed" for isn't really "needed" in the first place.
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Remember the days when debates about consoles didn't begin till after people had seem them actually playing games?
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Those days ended when the companies decided they wanted to get as much money out of people before they even delivered.

Also, "seeing them playing games" is even suspect anymore with pre-rendered, pre-scripted mock ups of supposed gameplay that may or may not even use the actual game engine.

This is supposed to be a game system used for playing games, but we're being sold on everything else it's supposedly capable of with a noticable absence of substance on said games.
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This isn't even about the games anyway. Halo 5 could be the most badass shooter ever but I'm still gonna wonder why some fancy webcam needs to be connected to the console. It's a pretty good guess that whatever the Kinect is there for we could do with a controller. It's not something we need to 'play first' to know.
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Old 06-08-2013, 05:00 AM   #344
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Now that I think about it, what are you actually responding to, Blitz? Don't think any of us complained about the games.
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Also, the 24 hour thing is nothing but spout from Phil Harrison.
Nah, they clarified the 24 hour thing officially. You do have to sign in.


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Totally making sure I have all three consoles next gen. Gaming on one doesn't look like it'll work out like it did. Feels oldschool really.
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Remember the days when debates about consoles didn't begin till after people had seem them actually playing games?
Remember when game consoles were actually treated as game consoles by the console manufacturers?

...Now that I think of it, there miiiiiight be a connection hurrr.
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What were the complaints about Fable III? I loved all the Fable games.
My only problem with Fable 3 was obnoxious assholes in online-game chat which is normal for all games. Fable 3 was pure awesomeness.
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Square Enix announced the Xbox One will also get Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III.

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Okay Sony wont have horrible spying DRM in PS4 and wont ban used games and actually shows off indie games.
Now we know what company is about GAMERS next gen.
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