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Old 08-02-2013, 11:47 AM   #1
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Guys, I miss The Hardys
This probably isn't threadworthy but I've been watching a lot of Youtube videos of Jeff & Matt Hardy matches and I miss them in the WWE. I know there's a handful of posters on here that don't like them. I certainly hope they come back to the WWE, and if you ask me it's only a matter of time. Especially TNA being the sinking ship it is, I expect Jeff in the WWE soon.


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Old 08-02-2013, 11:53 AM   #2
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Jeff is a liability and shouldn't be hired anywhere, to be honest. It was a mistake on TNA's part to give him yet another chance, to be honest.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:06 PM   #3
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Their time has come and gone. It's time to move on.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:09 PM   #4
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Jeff is a liability and shouldn't be hired anywhere, to be honest. It was a mistake on TNA's part to give him yet another chance, to be honest.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:14 PM   #5
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feel like you probably are smarter than this Narcissisisisisus and are playing a dastardly mind game with the wrestling forum
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I get that he's a draw but he's definitely proven that he can't be trusted with a major load. He's part of the reason why everybody does the "lol TNA" thing as much as they do. They had to cancel the main event of a PPV because he's a junky. Personally, it's not a guy I would be thrilled to do business with. I "get it" but it's definitely not something I would do. If it was one incident I wouldn't be so apprehensive but he's missed flights, missed shows, shown up fucked up, and ruined high profile shows/angles.

Personally Id rather just deal with guys that I know are going to perform and guys that I know aren't going to be a liability. I understand why they still do business with him, I just can't help but think they'll probably regret it again at some point.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:12 PM   #7
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To be honest.
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Or not to be honest.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:14 PM   #9
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I stopped liking the Hardys around 2003 when Jeff started going off the deep end with paint and shit.

Loved me some Team Extreme
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #10
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I will never forget their awesome matches back then, especially ones involving tables, ladders and chairs.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:28 PM   #11
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Really can't fathom how TNA can ever put any sort of trust in Jeff Hardy again after that PPV with Sting incident.

I can certainly see them doing business together again, but they should keep him strictly mid-card.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:29 PM   #12
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Matt was always the better Hardy to me. You know, before he lost his fucking mind.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:30 PM   #13
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:32 PM   #14
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I'd like to see The Hardys as a tag team in WWE again. That's about it. They could be really useful to boost interest in the division. They'd be the what the Legion of Doom were in 98. Mind you, could do the same thing with the New Age Outlaws and they're already under contract.
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The Hardy's can still wrestle though, feel like Road Dogg is half a match away from a heart attack

Then again I haven't seen Matt recently.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:46 PM   #16
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Matt is in ROH right now putting on some quality matches. They should just never give him the microphone. And they should probably shut off his Internet and his phone.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:54 PM   #18
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I dunno his recent YouTube vids have been pretty entertaining.
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I'd like to see The Hardys as a tag team in WWE again. That's about it. They could be really useful to boost interest in the division. They'd be the what the Legion of Doom were in 98. Mind you, could do the same thing with the New Age Outlaws and they're already under contract.
So could the Dudley's or Edge and Christian if Edge could still wrestle. Any of those four teams could help revive the tag division.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:32 AM   #20
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Apart from Edge not being able to wrestle, of course.
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So could the Dudley's or Edge and Christian if Edge could still wrestle. Any of those four teams could help revive the tag division.
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Apart from Edge not being able to wrestle, of course.
He mentioned that, dickhead.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #22
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But why would he mention it if it couldn't happen? At least I think that was XL's point.

I wouldn't be opposed to a Vitamin C reunion, though.
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Edge vs Matt Hardy really could've been one of the greatest feuds of all time, to be honest. It's still probably in my top 3 but that first match at Summerslam almost completely ruined the entire thing for me. To me, that first match should have been a brutal and bloody war ending in a no contest with both guys not being able to continue. It was pretty apparent that right out of the gate, WWE wanted To send a message to Hardy. Matt got a ton of heat for complaining on the Internet, not letting the issue go, and basically building a following against Edge. The WWE really didn't really have much of a choice but to hire Hardy back after his droves of fans continually hijacked the show and I don't think it set very well with them. That first Summerslam match really could've been one of the best matches in modern wrestling history but they really ruined it with their bitterness. Edge basically brutalized Matt and WWE weakened the feud right off the bat. They ended up having a fucking phenomenal program with each other afterwards but Ill always view that SS match as one of the biggest missed opportunities ever. IMO, it was the difference between Matt being a WHC contender for years to come and him being an upper mid carder like he turned out to be.
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I wrote an essay back in uni that had something to do with wrestling and wrestling fandom, and I used the Matt Hardy/Edge feud as an example of fan reaction, and I cited sources and quotes from RIGHT HERE on TPWW.
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The WWE seems to have absolutely no respect for things that they didn't help create. It doesn't matter if there's a dumpster full of cash to be made, if they didn't create it and if they can't completely control it, they don't want it to be the focal point of their shows. That's where the Edge/Hardy feud suffered, that's why Zack Ryder is currently suffering. It's a very childish mentality to have.

If they had booked that feud the way it should've been booked, we might be watching a Hardy/Edge rivalry DVD right now. That's how huge I think that angle could've been. It's a pretty frustrating thing to deal with as a fan of the WWE.
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The WWE seems to have absolutely no respect for things that they didn't help create. It doesn't matter if there's a dumpster full of cash to be made, if they didn't create it and if they can't completely control it, they don't want it to be the focal point of their shows. That's where the Edge/Hardy feud suffered, that's why Zack Ryder is currently suffering. It's a very childish mentality to have.

If they had booked that feud the way it should've been booked, we might be watching a Hardy/Edge rivalry DVD right now. That's how huge I think that angle could've been. It's a pretty frustrating thing to deal with as a fan of the WWE.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:05 AM   #28
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Matt's promo skills are what held him back which is odd because he was so good with the V1 gimmick. Zack Ryder got his opportunity and he blew it. He was in the middle of the ring with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan. He was given the mic and instead of sealing the deal he blew it. Where is Zack Ryder's massive fanbase now? It is gone because he found something that got him over for the short term, and he couldn't take it any farther when given the ball. He got a big U.S. Championship win and put all over TV. He couldn't hold is own and couldn't establish himself as anything other than a shallow gimmick.
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Jeff's last run in WWE was pretty mint
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:26 AM   #31
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I always wanted to see them relaunch the HHH/HBK feud after the initial DX reunion, but have HBK turn heel on HHH. HBK finally gets fed up of being treated like a joke and a goofy old man.

I also think HBK should have won the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 23.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:06 AM   #32
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But why would he mention it if it couldn't happen? At least I think that was XL's point.

I wouldn't be opposed to a Vitamin C reunion, though.
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He mentioned that, dickhead.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:55 AM   #34
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You're still a dickhead.
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They said Shawn Michaels would never wrestle again either, and look at what he did after a debilitating injury. Edge will get some robot spine in a few years and make an epic comeback.
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FYI: You are still a huge dickhead.
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Matt's promo skills are what held him back which is odd because he was so good with the V1 gimmick. Zack Ryder got his opportunity and he blew it. He was in the middle of the ring with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan. He was given the mic and instead of sealing the deal he blew it. Where is Zack Ryder's massive fanbase now? It is gone because he found something that got him over for the short term, and he couldn't take it any farther when given the ball. He got a big U.S. Championship win and put all over TV. He couldn't hold is own and couldn't establish himself as anything other than a shallow gimmick.
Exactly. I'm really sick of the whole "WWE only likes what they made" BS, and I have to again point out the mutually exclusive "Vince only cares about money" and "Vince only cares about ego" opinions. Matt Hardy should have come out of his feud with Edge shining like gold, but after the "you screwed Matt" air wore off, he had nothing further to give that interested anyone. Same thing with Ryder. The fans put him in a position to succeed on a massive level with his self-made gimmick, but he had nothing to follow it up with and people got bored.

I miss the Hardys too, but neither of those guys is a good idea to rely on in any way, shape, or form in the long-term. Jeff is far too interested in smoking up and far too easily distracted by shiny objects. His last WWE was gold, as was said, but that has a lot more to do with the fact that it was (deliberately) ended before he could do what he ended up doing in TNA. Matt is just too fucked up in the head and I honestly think he is way too bothered by the fact that Jeff gets so much more attention for being exciting and flashy than he gets for being the solid worker with better fundamentals. Part of me doesn't even feel like the V1 gimmick was a work. There is too much of an air of "I'm the best and wah wah wah nobody sees it" from him.
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In all seriousness, I wonder if Edge's injury hasn't been deliberately overblown so that he can make a huge surprise comeback someday. I don't believe this to be the case, but if he showed up one day in just that fashion my response would definitely be "I fucking knew it!"
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Exactly. I'm really sick of the whole "WWE only likes what they made" BS, and I have to again point out the mutually exclusive "Vince only cares about money" and "Vince only cares about ego" opinions. Matt Hardy should have come out of his feud with Edge shining like gold, but after the "you screwed Matt" air wore off, he had nothing further to give that interested anyone. Same thing with Ryder. The fans put him in a position to succeed on a massive level with his self-made gimmick, but he had nothing to follow it up with and people got bored.

I miss the Hardys too, but neither of those guys is a good idea to rely on in any way, shape, or form in the long-term. Jeff is far too interested in smoking up and far too easily distracted by shiny objects. His last WWE was gold, as was said, but that has a lot more to do with the fact that it was (deliberately) ended before he could do what he ended up doing in TNA. Matt is just too fucked up in the head and I honestly think he is way too bothered by the fact that Jeff gets so much more attention for being exciting and flashy than he gets for being the solid worker with better fundamentals. Part of me doesn't even feel like the V1 gimmick was a work. There is too much of an air of "I'm the best and wah wah wah nobody sees it" from him.
They tried to squash that feud right off the bat before Edge or Hardy did much of anything. That Summerslam match was inexcusable and an example of WWE sour grapes. They wanted to let Matt Hardy know that they do things on their own terms with their own creative ideas, not on his terms with ideas that the WWE didn't create. That could have been such a money feud but money wasn't as important to them as teaching a lesson was.
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