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Old 08-27-2013, 11:30 PM   #1
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Tables, Ladders, & Podcast #14 (August 27, 2013)


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If you had been running TNA for the last few months, during their budget cuts, who would you have released, and why?
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #2
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Question Of The Week:

If you had been running TNA for the last few months, during their budget cuts, who would you have released, and why?
Honestly, Hogan and Bischoff would be #1 and #2. Hogan never hypes TNA in his media appearances and he doesn't bring anything to the product, other than costing TNA upwards of $30k per taping. Bischoff admitted a couple months ago he wasn't giving it his best effort to the wrestlers, admitting he was phoning it in. He sat there in a production meeting and said that they should pair up Angelina Love and Winter...AFTER the lesbian time traveling angle. The only thing Bischoff can do is go back to the well and revive the nWo or another stable.


Going down the roster page, kinda slim pickings. Hernandez doesn't bring anything to the table other than one of the most contrived spots in wrestling currently with his stupid ramp dive. Only spot more contrived is Christian's jumping over the top rope to the outside to deliver a slap. King Mo probably will never wrestle for the company. Anderson annoys the fuck out of me, personally. Other than those 3, I see value for everyone on the page, even Manik/Suicide/Depressed/Moody/Content.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:20 PM   #3
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If you had been running TNA for the last few months, during their budget cuts, who would you have released, and why?
Agree with Innovator that Hogan and Bischoff should be at the top or near the top. If I had to take a guess, the savings from dropping Hogan alone covers most if not all of what TNA saved so far from all the releases done.

Would have still released Jesse Sorensen but would have done a better job of explaining why. TNA had no desire to ever medically clear him to return to the ring and he started to care less about his management job even though he was getting paid more as part of his injury compensation.

Unless Spike and/or Bellator was paying for both Tito and Rampage, would have tossed out both because realistically neither is really going to help TNA and are money drains.

Probably would target more on the management side than wrestler side considering they've been the source for the majority of TNA's real problems and issues.
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:41 PM   #4
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Hogan, Bischoff, Tenay, Tazz, JB.

Time for a clean slate not just in terms of management but announcers also. You can change who runs things all you want but if the announcers are the same it appears to the public that nothing has changed. I'd find cheaper replacements for Tenay and Taz (That Todd Kennely guy wasn't that bad maybe him and some retiring wrestler on the cheap) . I think it's time for Tenay to go because he reminds me too much of WCW. Taz was willing to go back to WWE, so they should cut him for being a disloyal ass. If Jeremy Borash still wants to be in the behind the scenes stuff (and announcing house shows) he can stay but with a pay cut.

I'm sure Bellator and Spike are fronting most of the bill for Tito and Rampage. So, I don't buy the idea that people released were cut to pay them. Panda is probably just wanting to lower their costs since the ratings aren't improving and there's no reason to have a large roster with a large payroll and still get 1.0's.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:46 PM   #5
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You have to start with the Hogans and the Bischoffs. You spend so much money to bring in the two masterminds of the last time WWE had legitimate competition, and they don't move the needle at all. They're eating up payroll, giving TV time to their untalented offspring, and giving the company no payoff.

I'm assuming that the Bellator stuff is paid for by Spike. So, even though I don't think King Mo, Rampage, or Tito add anything to the show, it's not costing Panda any money, so I'll let them slide.

Hernandez, Jay Bradley, and Rob Terry are just terrible. Let them go. Jessie Godderz is doing all right in this Bro-Mans team, but Robbie is the real star there, so Jessie can go, too.

I'm okay with them cutting Taeler Hendrix and Crimson, but Joey Ryan and Madison Rayne still had gas in the tank. I'm indifferent to Christian York (liked him in ECW), so I guess I'm okay with him getting cut.

I can't believe Jeff Hardy is still under contract after the Victory Road fiasco. He seems to be doing okay now, but if I was running TNA, he'd have been gone years ago.

In summary: Hulk and Brooke Hogan, Eric and Garrett Bischoff, Hernandez, Jay Bradley, Rob Terry, Jessie Godderz, Taeler Hendrix, Crimson, and Jeff Hardy
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:26 AM   #6
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You have to start with the Hogans and the Bischoffs. You spend so much money to bring in the two masterminds of the last time WWE had legitimate competition, and they don't move the needle at all. They're eating up payroll, giving TV time to their untalented offspring, and giving the company no payoff.

I'm assuming that the Bellator stuff is paid for by Spike. So, even though I don't think King Mo, Rampage, or Tito add anything to the show, it's not costing Panda any money, so I'll let them slide.

Hernandez, Jay Bradley, and Rob Terry are just terrible. Let them go. Jessie Godderz is doing all right in this Bro-Mans team, but Robbie is the real star there, so Jessie can go, too.

I'm okay with them cutting Taeler Hendrix and Crimson, but Joey Ryan and Madison Rayne still had gas in the tank. I'm indifferent to Christian York (liked him in ECW), so I guess I'm okay with him getting cut.

I can't believe Jeff Hardy is still under contract after the Victory Road fiasco. He seems to be doing okay now, but if I was running TNA, he'd have been gone years ago.

In summary: Hulk and Brooke Hogan, Eric and Garrett Bischoff, Hernandez, Jay Bradley, Rob Terry, Jessie Godderz, Taeler Hendrix, Crimson, and Jeff Hardy
Hardy sells merch. They'd be morons to let him go.
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:02 PM   #7
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Yeah I saw Spike is footing the bill for King Mo, Rampage, and Tito. King Mo, you're safe...for now.

Since they're cutting pregnant knockouts, I expect Tayrn to get cut now also.
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TNA sells merch?
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I don't really see the Aces & Eights guys as being very necessary. The one I thought was pretty good was DOC, but he's already left. Knux is solid, but nothing special. I'd have sent Wes Brisco and Garett Bischoff back to OVW. Devon could go there as a trainer or get released. Ken Anderson is a maybe, since he apparently is one of TNA's best merch movers (well, he was a few years back).

Creatively, I think it would be the best thing to get rid of Hogan and Bischoff, as well. I'm sure they get paid a fair bit. Also, given that he is now unable to challenge for the World Heavyweight Title, they might as well move away from Sting and focus on younger talents. A heel ending Sting's TNA career would be a huge thing for that particular heel, and give an avenging babyface a good storyline.

Truth be told, I think it's time that Abyss was respectfully released too. He's entertaining as Joseph Park and all that, but it just doesn't really feel right. I'm not sure how much he gets paid, but I imagine he gets a fair amount due to his tenure with the company. I'd induct him into the TNA Hall of Fame or something and maybe bring him back for special occasions. Maybe he could even replace Taz as the color commentator for the show, dropping the whole Abyss/Joseph Park thing and simply being a respected veteran who calls matches now.

Jay Bradley does nothing for me. If he wants to take a cut and go to OVW and see if he can strike gold, go ahead, but I don't really think he fits the main roster. I feel the same about Gunner -- he's technically a solid performer, but there's nothing really magnetic or special about him. I'd have Bad Influence win the World Tag Team Titles from him and James Storm and then have Gunner turn on Storm in a rage. Storm beats Gunner and then we move on.

Crimson and Rob Terry are two guys I wouldn't be too depressed to see go, either. Jessie Godderz getting released wouldn't be a shocking loss for the company. Robbie E. is far better than people give him credit for, but I don't think he's really essential to the company moving forward. If cuts had to be made, I'd go with him getting the chop.

I'd have kept Christian York and Taeler Hendrix (treating Taeler better). The Knockouts and X-Division should really be strengthened with permanent characters that people can care about. TNA should invest in some good tag teams too. There are also some former WWE stars that could actually help out TNA with their charisma and presence -- guys who would actually fit the roster.
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I can't believe Aces & Eights has been going on for over 14 months now. The storyline has been terrible, has made no sense (a frequent requirement for TNA), and has just dragged on for way too long. These guys aren't the nWo. Hell, they haven't even been the Nexus. Just fuck off. I love Bully Ray obviously, but he doesn't need this group to be entertaining.

Brisco & Bischoff are just shit. Ortiz and the other MMA guys bring zero value to TNA and are only to promote Bellator. People who watch TNA may tune in to Bellator, but it sure as shit would never be the other way around.

I used to love Mr. Anderson in WWE and before his body betrayed him I thought he was going to be huge. He's not awful by any means, but the reality is he doesn't bring anything special to the table, he's just average across the board. Perhaps I would like him more if he rolled with it and just started wrestling as "Average Goods" Ken Anderson.
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I would like it if TNA signed Karl Anderson to be Ken Anderson's tag team partner. The K. Andersons could be a pretty hard-hitting tag team for a division that needs some help.
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