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Old 12-13-2013, 01:49 AM   #41
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If Cena turned heel, I think it would open entirely new waves of promotional material. Everyone would want a "Cool Cena" t-shirt if he were a renegade heel. Remember the nWo shirts? It just depends on whether the WWE are ready for such a paradigm shift to overtake their company.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:27 AM   #42
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Hogan was also big between 1996-1998, and Bret/HBK pretty much sank the WWF ship.
Now thats not true. It wasnt their fault alone. WWE business dropped off because of poor booking and stupid characters. You could Blame Diesel, Razor, Taker, and Yoko as well. But I think the only blame for that drop was Vince.

Then they adapted and took over the entire business, which VInce gets credit for.

HBK Adapted and helped launch the WWE to the top, where Stone COld and the Rock took it over the goal line.

I feel like Cena/Hogan comparison is pretty apt. I think that Cena becoming a heelwouldnt kill the WWE at all, in fact it would energize the older fans and maybe help boost some ratings, and Daniel Bryan is PERFECT to become the child friendly "Face" of the WWE.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:31 AM   #43
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I'm pretty sure that Brock Lesnar leaving the WWE was a huge reason that Cena became the face of the company as he has. I'm sure he would have still been a successful champion and all that, but it may have come years later, and his career not so prolific. Maybe smarks would even be in love with him and claim he deserves more?
Imagine if Brock didnt leave and instead of HHH/Orton/Cena ruling the WWE from 2003-2013 it was Brock, Orton and Cena?
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:07 PM   #44
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If Cena turned heel, I think it would open entirely new waves of promotional material. Everyone would want a "Cool Cena" t-shirt if he were a renegade heel. Remember the nWo shirts? It just depends on whether the WWE are ready for such a paradigm shift to overtake their company.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:47 PM   #45
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He could be up there but Undertaker is a bigger name than Cena.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:09 PM   #46
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Now thats not true. It wasnt their fault alone. WWE business dropped off because of poor booking and stupid characters. You could Blame Diesel, Razor, Taker, and Yoko as well. But I think the only blame for that drop was Vince.

Then they adapted and took over the entire business, which VInce gets credit for.

HBK Adapted and helped launch the WWE to the top, where Stone COld and the Rock took it over the goal line.

I feel like Cena/Hogan comparison is pretty apt. I think that Cena becoming a heelwouldnt kill the WWE at all, in fact it would energize the older fans and maybe help boost some ratings, and Daniel Bryan is PERFECT to become the child friendly "Face" of the WWE.
I agree with you on Daniel Bryan being the perfect child-friendly face. The problem with CM Punk is that he didn't really fit that "PG-era good guy" mold. Daniel Bryan manages to tick those boxes while remaining tremendously over with almost all the demographics. If Shawn Michaels can turn heel against the guy, something is working.

I can understand the WWE's reluctance to do so. Maybe they want to try having their cake and eating it too? In that case, I'd put Bryan over Cena in the main event of WrestleMania XXX, after making Cena submit for the first time in like a decade to his YES! Lock. That way, Bryan has done the unthinkable and Cena has passed the torch in the biggest way he ever could. It wouldn't just be a clean win over Cena, but it would be the clean win over Cena.

Going forward, Bryan would be your undisputed WWE World Champion, which means the spotlight is on him and he is getting the chance he deserves. John Cena would concede to be the second-fiddle, but would still be involved in major storylines as Triple H would be furious that Cena tapped out to Bryan. He was meant to beat him and be "The Face of WWE." Cena is all "Sorry, the kid is too good," so Triple H sends Cena against groups of opponents and such.

At some point you can then put Bryan and Cena against each other again, and there Cena can cheat his ass off to win the World Title, revealing his true colors -- knowing he can't beat Bryan he cheats his ass of to secure his legacy and keep himself at top. The Authority can fully back Cena as the WWE World Champion, and Bryan has to win the Royal Rumble for the second year in a row to challenge John Cena at WrestleMania.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:52 PM   #47
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Now thats not true. It wasnt their fault alone. WWE business dropped off because of poor booking and stupid characters. You could Blame Diesel, Razor, Taker, and Yoko as well. But I think the only blame for that drop was Vince.

Then they adapted and took over the entire business, which VInce gets credit for.

HBK Adapted and helped launch the WWE to the top, where Stone COld and the Rock took it over the goal line.

I feel like Cena/Hogan comparison is pretty apt. I think that Cena becoming a heelwouldnt kill the WWE at all, in fact it would energize the older fans and maybe help boost some ratings, and Daniel Bryan is PERFECT to become the child friendly "Face" of the WWE.
The booking was no different with Hogan, and Bret/HBK were pretty much the focal point even when Diesel had his long run.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:15 AM   #48
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Yeah, the only major booking difference was they went against the larger than life Hogan type and into the less personality, more athletic Bret/HBK type and it was terrible for business.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:48 PM   #49
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John Cena will go down as, statistically speaking, the greatest WWE Superstar of all-time when he retires. I'm not sure if that will translate to mainstream recognizability, but I'd say that Cena is pretty well known. I wouldn't have known who the Ultimate Warrior was if I wasn't into professional wrestling. I'd probably have come across something to do with John Cena by now.
Yeah! Cena's Make-A-Wish record of 300+ appearances cements his status as high profile outside the ring. Add his apparel, movie, and cereal merchandising royalties, too! The sum of all that is very Top Five, if not #4.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:21 PM   #52
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The booking was no different with Hogan, and Bret/HBK were pretty much the focal point even when Diesel had his long run.
Ummm, No
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:57 AM   #53
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Um yes. The transition from Hogan to HBK/Bret was awful. HBK didn't "adapt". The company fell ass over backwards into the greatest storyline ever. Hogan was killing the WWF during HBK and Bret's reign.
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