TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > o f f t o p i c > sports forum
Reload this Page NFL 2013 Season Thread
Register Members List

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-2014, 09:40 PM   #1
Krimzon7
King of the Ring
 
Krimzon7's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,848
Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Steele View Post
Championships and statistics relevant to their position. Payton has both.
and Tom Brady, Joe Montanna, Terry Bradshaw, to name a few, have MORE.

Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan View Post
Oh, so suddenly it's the team and not Manning.

You were just fucking talking about QBs MAKING great teams champions. I mention how Manning MADE bad teams great and suddenly it was the teams.

lol
If Manning was so great, why didn't those teams get to, or win, more superbowls? Because a better quarterback making his team better while making fewer mistakes beat him. I'm talking about Tom Brady


Quote:
Originally Posted by James Steele View Post
DAMN IT PAYTON, WHY DID YOU DROP THAT PASS?! HOW DID YOU EVEN GET IN THIS LEAGUE!?!?!?
It's baffling.
Krimzon7 is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 09:51 PM   #2
#1-norm-fan
Resident drug enabler
 
#1-norm-fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,473
#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon7 View Post
If Manning was so great, why didn't those teams get to, or win, more superbowls? Because a better quarterback making his team better while making fewer mistakes beat him. I'm talking about Tom Brady
Goddamn. I'm gonna try to recap this all in one post because you seem to have ADD or something.

You said "The one thing that separates the greats from the GREATEST is going to be the ones who have elevated their teams from Great teams to Champions."

To which I replied that you're assuming all great QBs have equal opportunity to lead a GREAT team to a championship team when that is not the case. Manning didn't play with great teams most of his career.

Now you're asking why he didn't get those teams to a championship...

Now read this post as many times as is necessary until you understand.
#1-norm-fan is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:03 PM   #3
Krimzon7
King of the Ring
 
Krimzon7's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,848
Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan View Post
Goddamn. I'm gonna try to recap this all in one post because you seem to have ADD or something.

You said "The one thing that separates the greats from the GREATEST is going to be the ones who have elevated their teams from Great teams to Champions."

To which I replied that you're assuming all great QBs have equal opportunity to lead a GREAT team to a championship team when that is not the case. Manning didn't play with great teams most of his career.

Now you're asking why he didn't get those teams to a championship...

Now read this post as many times as is necessary until you understand.
The Colts were built in Peyton's image, and they routinely went 10-0. 11-0 and 12-0 every year before losing. They were a 'great team'. They'd steamroll the season and end up losing their first playoff game more often than not. Those Colts had everything that they needed to be considered a Dynasty...except multiple championships. Peyton had his chance. The fact that you're attempting to render his roster inferior now is revisionist history at it's finest.

This season is the perfect microcosm for Manning s Career. Great numbers, but fell short when it mattered most. Good, but not Good enough.
Krimzon7 is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:09 PM   #4
#1-norm-fan
Resident drug enabler
 
#1-norm-fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,473
#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon7 View Post
The Colts were built in Peyton's image, and they routinely went 10-0. 11-0 and 12-0 every year before losing. They were a 'great team'.
Holy fuck you're hopeless...
#1-norm-fan is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:12 PM   #5
Krimzon7
King of the Ring
 
Krimzon7's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,848
Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan View Post
Holy fuck you're hopeless...
Yeah, I'm hopless...I won't submit to your assinine method of thinking and accept a life long runner up as the best of this or any generation.
Krimzon7 is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:18 PM   #6
#1-norm-fan
Resident drug enabler
 
#1-norm-fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,473
#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)#1-norm-fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon7 View Post
Yeah, I'm hopless...I won't submit to your assinine method of thinking and accept a life long runner up as the best of this or any generation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan View Post
Remember when Peyton Manning was out for the season and the Colts went from a perrenial 11+ win team to 2-14?

Remember when Tom Brady was out for the season and the Patriots went from a perrenial 11+ win team to... 11-5?

Exactly. Shut up.
#1-norm-fan is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:22 PM   #7
DaveBrawl
Inconceivable
 
DaveBrawl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,887
DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon7 View Post
The Colts were built in Peyton's image, and they routinely went 10-0. 11-0 and 12-0 every year before losing. They were a 'great team'. They'd steamroll the season and end up losing their first playoff game more often than not. Those Colts had everything that they needed to be considered a Dynasty...except multiple championships. Peyton had his chance. The fact that you're attempting to render his roster inferior now is revisionist history at it's finest.

This season is the perfect microcosm for Manning s Career. Great numbers, but fell short when it mattered most. Good, but not Good enough.
They'd get such gaudy numbers and a great record by playing the Titans, Jaguars and Texans twice a year.
DaveBrawl is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:14 PM   #8
DaveBrawl
Inconceivable
 
DaveBrawl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,887
DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)DaveBrawl got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon7 View Post
If Manning was so great, why didn't those teams get to, or win, more superbowls? Because a better quarterback making his team better while making fewer mistakes beat him. I'm talking about Tom Brady
Manning's camera crew wasn't as good?
DaveBrawl is offline  
Old 02-02-2014, 10:20 PM   #9
Krimzon7
King of the Ring
 
Krimzon7's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,848
Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Krimzon7 has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveBrawl View Post
Manning's camera crew wasn't as good?


Genuinely a good one. If you're not cheating, you're not trying!
Krimzon7 is offline  
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:07 AM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®