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Old 03-18-2014, 03:21 PM   #3761
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Yeah, don't read Grant Morrison's Batman stuff. I will recommend some good stuff when I get home.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:04 PM   #3762
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Old 03-19-2014, 01:39 AM   #3763
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I just read Batman RIP and I don't think I understood like half of it.

This was so fucked up I can't even describe it.

Started reading some DC books (always was a Marvel fan) after I randomly read Batman: Hush and I kinda loved it. But this? Terrible.

Recommend me some good Batman stories if you can.
The whole Batman: RIP comic is what enticed me to pick up Batman again. DC kept pushing it would conclude with the biggest shock in the 70+ year history of Batman.

I was so disappointed by it. I was disappointed by Batman, Inc. too.

I would recommend Batman and Robin (the first 12 issues I think) where Dick Grayson is Bats and Damian is Robin. It's well-done and switches things up where Batman is now lighthearted and Robin is serious.

I would highly recommend Scott Snyder's "The Court of Owls" as well. Good Bat stuff from Snyder. Much better than Grant Morrison.
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:49 AM   #3764
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I mostly liked Morrison's Batman stuff. I've still not gotten done with Batman Inc, but I've enjoyed what of it I've read so far.

Court of Owls is good stuff though. I really need to get caught up with New 52 Batman.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:01 AM   #3765
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The whole Batman: RIP comic is what enticed me to pick up Batman again. DC kept pushing it would conclude with the biggest shock in the 70+ year history of Batman.

I was so disappointed by it. I was disappointed by Batman, Inc. too.
I honestly fail to see what the "shock" here was supposed to be. I mean, I didn't bother with the follow-ups, just read online what happenned next and I still don't know.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:46 AM   #3766
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Batman RIP was massively misleading, but oh well.

"This is the end of Batman! Except it doesn't happen til the end of Final Crisis. Oh but..."
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Batman RIP was massively misleading, but oh well.

"This is the end of Batman! Except it doesn't happen til the end of Final Crisis. Oh but..."
Well, turns out he survives that, too, sooo...
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:40 PM   #3768
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:03 PM   #3769
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:36 PM   #3770
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Hey, it's that guy from OC.

I see he developed another facial expression.
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:12 PM   #3771
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thats from the batman superman movie? or arrow?
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:27 PM   #3772
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:14 PM   #3773
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:20 PM   #3774
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Good cast they've assembled, though I'm not totally sure I can buy Ryan Atwood as Jim Gordon.
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Kinda can't believe this happening. Lightning fast from rumor to announcement to filming the pilot.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:51 PM   #3777
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More pics of Selina Kyle, and some of young Bruce Wayne, including HUGE spoilers regarding his parents, so don't click if you don't want to ruin the surprise:

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Old 03-22-2014, 03:29 AM   #3778
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Kid Selina is adorable.

Also, must be an interesting thing ever being cast has the parents of Bruce Wayne.
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:35 AM   #3779
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Just read the final issue of Animal Man. Pretty bummed out that it is over. Want it to continue... especially since it has dangling plots.

I imagine that the writer will deal with them in the Justice League United book, which will have Animal Man in it....

But I dunno... Don't know if I could stomach reading a Justice League book, even by a writer I like.
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You spoilering wanker Lock Jaw.

Not going to bother watching now.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:46 PM   #3781
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Finally picked up the recent Batman, and damn it I love the team of Snyder/Capullo. February's issue was apparently a filler, with Snyder still writing, but a different guy on the pencils. Not sure I'm ready to give up Capullo, yet.
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i didnt think so... somehow i completely missed that theres going to be a gotham show..


and kid selina has a slight resemblence to michelle pfeiffer... especially in the pic where shes throwing up deuces
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:41 PM   #3783
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I wonder if that's what they were going for.

I was initially 'eh' about the show but the casting looks good. The era of time seems hella ambiguous but it may be a good show. DC TV is the shit.
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Gonna be honest with you, I didn't know you were joking and for a second thought
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that there was an actual spoiler in Thomas Wayne being Ash Williams himself, Bruce Campbell and promptly geeked out
then I looked again, and was let down I was wrong.

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Coat seems cosplay-ish but it's cool.
Well, if you mean he's cosplaying as Columbo. Then the coat isnt wrinkly enough.
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Well, if you mean he's cosplaying as Columbo. Then the coat isnt wrinkly enough.
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I don't know if you guys have been reading any of DC's digital stuff, but y'all need to start reading Adventures of Superman right the fuck now. Each story arc is a different writer and artist, and they're allowed to do absolutely anything they want, completely free from the restraints of the New 52 continuity. A few of the stories are kinda meh, but when it hits, god damn does it hit.

F'rinstance, ever wonder why the Joker rarely ever tries to branch out of Metropolis?

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Because the first time they met, Clark shut him down more thoroughly than Batman ever could.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:56 PM   #3787
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Been meaning to check that series out... if only to see Superman have underpants on the outside.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:58 PM   #3788
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So far, every story I've read has done the old-school costume with the trunks.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:23 PM   #3789
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And then Joker came back in the Injustice comic and showed him what vapid and ridiculous was...until he was slaughtered.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:51 PM   #3790
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Everything about the Injustice setting is vapid and ridiculous, and reeks of DC trying too hard to be edgy.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:26 PM   #3791
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That blasting commentary seems almost meta against the very character of The Joker. The writer has some beef.
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That blasting commentary seems almost meta against the very character of The Joker. The writer has some beef.
yeah...that was harsh.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:42 AM   #3793
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He does have a point, though. As much as people bitch and moan about Superman's characterization, he's been pretty consistently the same guy for over 75 years, while the Joker has been all over the place with people plugging in whatever seemed cool at the time.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:55 AM   #3794
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Everything about the Injustice setting is vapid and ridiculous, and reeks of DC trying too hard to be edgy.
I liked it.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:09 AM   #3795
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I wouldn't be so hard on Injustice if DC would lay off on the whole "Ooh, what if all the good guys were bad guys?!" trope for five minutes. Between Injustice, Flashpoint, Forever Evil, Earth-2, and I'm sure I'm missing some, it seems like doing evil versions of the Justice League is the only trick they've got up their sleeves these days. Coupled with the normal good versions of the JLA being made darker and more depressing in the New 52 and Man of Steel, and in order to make a big enough contrast you have to do over-the-top shock value stuff like having Superman Heat Vision through Captain Marvel's head (bearing in mind that Captain Marvel is a ten-year-old boy), and Wonder Woman chopping up kids with a sword in Flashpoint. Meanwhile, Marvel's destroying DC in the comics and the movies by reminding everyone that this superhero shit is supposed to be fun.

And honestly, nobody's ever going to do a "Superman goes evil" story better than Mark Waid's Irredeemable.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:34 AM   #3796
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I don't know, the goofy "fun" stuff Marvel does doesn't really appeal to me all that much most of the time at least as far as the movies go. I can't really judge the comics as I haven't read many comics lately and the last ones I did were DC. That atmosphere was one of the biggest things that ruined Iron Man 3 to me. They would switch between depression and sadness, back to sarcastic and happy, and then dark and dreary at the drop of a hat. It's like they had to force that upbeat attitude in there in the middle of a man's life coming apart.

I will agree with you that the do the evil Justice League far too often for most people to care anymore though.
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:15 PM   #3797
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I'm with Kalyx on the Joker/Superman thing. Not very subtle at all. Makes Joker look like an absolute moron. He's anything but.

Joker is almost like Batman, in that he has contingencies for everything. He's insane, but he's an insane genius.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:05 AM   #3798
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Whoever wrote that was an idiot. Joker is Batman's complete opposite. Alignment wise anyways. The way they operate on the other hand is completely the same. They always have back up plans for their back up plans. Just had a beef with Joker or something.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:21 AM   #3799
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First off, the story takes place in a Year One setting-- this is Joker's second or third outing period, and his first meeting with Superman, so no, he's not going to have "plans for everything" at that stage.

Secondly, even when he's at the top of his game, no, the Joker does not have plans for everything-- he has plans for Batman. His whole identity, his whole existence, revolves around Batman, and everyone else is just something to use against him. When he goes up against someone that doesn't fit into his "how can I use this to hurt Batman?" agenda, he usually gets his ass kicked.

And honestly, I've never bought the "he has plans for everything ever" routine as anything but an excuse for writers to pull deus ex machina out of their asses like a plot-contrivance utility belt, and it only ever seems to come up for the sake of people in the Bat-Franchise to make sure they're the coolest person in the room, usually at the expense of the entire DC Universe. Superman fights Lex Luthor all the time, the straight-up smartest man in the world, who has basically infinite resources, and who has devoted his life to killing and undermining him--to say nothing of Brainiac, who's the same thing on a cosmic scale-- but I'm supposed to believe that a homeless clown with some bombs is going to outclass them? Bullshit.
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Fine, but the writer doesn't have to be such a dick about it.

I don't really see how wasting an issue embarrassing a character you don't like is great writing.
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