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Old 11-27-2014, 11:43 PM   #81
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Old 11-27-2014, 11:44 PM   #82
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:00 AM   #83
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:02 AM   #84
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:03 AM   #85
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:07 AM   #86
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:07 AM   #87
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:10 AM   #88
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Punk's story is believable Ryback was greener than gooseshit when they feuded.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:15 AM   #89
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I agree that he was greener than gooseshit, but how was he? Wasn't he in developmental since he was on Tough Enough? He was in OVW or whatever other development feds they had too. He probably is pretty dumb.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:17 AM   #90
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Punk has always been and will always be a spoiled brat who runs away the moment he doesn't get his way, then screams about how he's being mistreated. He was given more opportunity than the majority of the WWE roster to succeed and it still wasn't enough to satisfy his massive ego. Goor riddance to garbage. Now vanish back into obscurity.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:24 AM   #92
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Jealousy that he's fucking your dream girl and namesake. Get over it.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:33 AM   #93
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Punk has some legit gripes. But hey, whatever.
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In all fairness I'd be pretty pissed if a guy shit all over me the way Punk did Ryback, whether he was right or wrong.

I've supported Punk from the moment he quit. I'm not his biggest fan but I definitely think he's a great talent and enjoy his work, but I always respect someone who isn't an asskisser and at least has the balls to tell Vince and Hunter to go fuck themselves. There needs to be more of these guys for wrestling to get any better.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:35 AM   #95
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Punk's story sounds totally believable here. Almost every wrestler in history has come out in retirement and had bad things to say about the WWE. Fact is Punk is probably telling the truth (albeit with a bit of his "I'm the victim" personality shining through).

Ryback is probably just having the typical human reaction to being called out on stupidity. He almost certainly did fuck up, and anyone who's ever fucked up and been called on it has had the same reaction of "I didn't do anything wrong/you're just a crybaby". Also probably has something to do with him not wanting his renewed push (or what's left of it) to stop.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:35 AM   #96
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In all fairness I'd be pretty pissed if a guy shit all over me the way Punk did Ryback, whether he was right or wrong.

I've supported Punk from the moment he quit. I'm not his biggest fan but I definitely think he's a great talent and enjoy his work, but I always respect someone who isn't an asskisser and at least has the balls to tell Vince and Hunter to go fuck themselves. There needs to be more of these guys for wrestling to get any better.
Yeah. Ryback needs to stick up for himself and not look weak. The weird thing about him sticking up for himself in this instance is that the WWE may punish him for going off script about doing so, when it is in his best interest to do it.

Just all of the counterproductive and illogical shit that Punk laid out in the podcast are really hard to comprehend.
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At the end of the day, it's the same as any corporation, whether it's retail or it's pro wrasslin. A lot of the mandates are fucking bullshit and illogical, it's just the way the world works #capitalism.

People think "this business" (aka wrasslin) is somehow different in its ridiculousness but it is not, it is just like anything else, aka a crock of shit. I think Damien Sandow made this point in a "shoot". If you go in understanding this, you'll probably succeed, and is why someone like Sandow will succeed in life, whether it be as a wrassler or something else.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:41 AM   #98
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In all fairness I'd be pretty pissed if a guy shit all over me the way Punk did Ryback, whether he was right or wrong.

I've supported Punk from the moment he quit. I'm not his biggest fan but I definitely think he's a great talent and enjoy his work, but I always respect someone who isn't an asskisser and at least has the balls to tell Vince and Hunter to go fuck themselves. There needs to be more of these guys for wrestling to get any better.
Ryback started it he did another lame action figure thing a few months ago. Passive Aggressiveness. Punk actually said what was bothering him about Ryback. He even sort of stood up for his bad booking in the interview it seemed.

Ryback finally said something but he had already pussied out twice with action figures instead of words.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:43 AM   #99
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I wouldn't sweat it, Ryback will likely be back jobbing to El Torito in a couple of months
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:53 AM   #100
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Punk's story is believable Ryback was greener than gooseshit when they feuded.
Again, I don't think Ryback is denying that he hurt Punk.
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:27 AM   #101
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Ryback is basically saying "that's this business sometimes. Shit happens, get over yourself."
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:36 AM   #102
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At the end of the day though, you aren't supposed to be breaking guys' ribs, you're supposed to keep them somewhat safe. Even "snug" guys like Benoit's and Regals weren't running around hurting guys on a regular basis. I'm sure their offence HURT, but guys wouldn't get injured. It's a work, not a real fight. Guys' pushes get derailed because of being that sloppy.
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...could this be why they derailed his push and everybody crying foul about it at the time?
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Obviously... but wouldn't that suggest Punk has a legitimate gripe? I mean don't get me wrong, obviously Ryback should stand up for himself, but he doesn't have much ground to stand on.
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If all Punk said was "Ryback injured me" then yes, he would probably have a legit gripe.
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It would have been nice if he got a little more into why he thought that happened, other than Ryback being roidy, but he likely had his reasons for believing so.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:05 AM   #107
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Again, I don't think Ryback is denying that he hurt Punk.
His reactions are as if he knew he hurt Punk and didn't give a shit. Probably why Punk is given more than just "he hurt me" with some vitriol.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:06 AM   #108
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he's kind of being a troll though
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:09 AM   #109
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He'll just delete what he said tomorrow anyways. Tweet Delete Repeat.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:15 AM   #110
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aka being a troll.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:36 AM   #111
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So, does WWE sweep this under the rug or does Vince talk about it with Stone Cold on the podcast thing?
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:37 AM   #112
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Punk screwed Punk.
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So, does WWE sweep this under the rug or does Vince talk about it with Stone Cold on the podcast thing?
Already went public defending their medical staff although didn't mention the guy who Punk blamed the most.

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WWE issued a statement in response to Yahoo! for the article, saying, “WWE takes the health and wellness of its talent very seriously and has a comprehensive Talent Wellness Program that is led by one of the most well-respected physicians in the country, Dr. Joseph Maroon.”
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Old 11-28-2014, 03:35 AM   #114
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That's not even the attending. They didn't say anything.
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Vince should invite him on the air on day to "clear the air". Wonder what he'd say.
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Old 11-28-2014, 04:43 AM   #117
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Again, I don't think Ryback is denying that he hurt Punk.
But did he do it on purpose?
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:37 AM   #118
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Of course he didn't. Something to think about: Ryback was pretty green when he debuted and basically was given jobbers where he could do whatever he want to them. Pretty dangerous for a guy that big and inexperienced. Very easy to develop bad habits.
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I don't think it was done on purpose, but Punk does. I feel like I'd need to make that know. If I were Ryback. Like, yeah I hurt you, I'm a big dude and I was inexperienced, but I never set out to hurt anybody on purpose.
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Of course he didn't. Something to think about: Ryback was pretty green when he debuted and basically was given jobbers where he could do whatever he want to them. Pretty dangerous for a guy that big and inexperienced. Very easy to develop bad habits.
Do you think thats an excuse for a year to pass and he's just as reckless? Also, do you feel like it excuses kicking Punk in the ribs as hard as he could?
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