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Old 11-28-2014, 07:27 AM   #121
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So out of this interview we learned that wrestlers are back stabbers and wrestling promoters lie. Breaking news.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:30 AM   #122
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Do you think thats an excuse for a year to pass and he's just as reckless? Also, do you feel like it excuses kicking Punk in the ribs as hard as he could?
He's not nearly as reckless as he was 2 years ago. That's not remotely true.

Could you imagine Punk being around 15-20 years ago and whining about wrestling injured or being hurt in the ring? He would have never been able to show his face again.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:59 AM   #123
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He's not nearly as reckless as he was 2 years ago. That's not remotely true.

Could you imagine Punk being around 15-20 years ago and whining about wrestling injured or being hurt in the ring? He would have never been able to show his face again.
Do you feel like Punks perspective may carry more weight than yours? He was actually in the ring with the guy. I'm really referring to two years ago, and one year ago, when they both worked with each other. Rybacks ability now isn't really in question. Unless he did it on purpose, which is also a possibility.

Also, could I? Eh. It's relative. The business is different. The training, the commitment to a safe work environment, etc. Theres a difference between toughing some shit out, wrestling through injuries and being physically incapacitated to the point where the medical opinion is to get surgery that would take a 4 week recovery time, only to have 2 days to recover. I didn't really get "whining" from how he was talking, but you may have, and thats cool.

I'm an athlete myself and I've toughed out injuries on the regular, but I've only done hard lifting and cardio on antibiotics ONCE and felt like I was legit going to die, I couldn't imagine feeling like that over the span of several months, working 4 out of 7 nights a week, WITH a growing staph infection. And wrestling is WAY more physical than the sports/activities I engage in.
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Old 11-28-2014, 08:07 AM   #124
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Then go get surgery. It was Punk's choice to continue wrestling through all of those injuries until he finally decided not to. On a much much much smaller scale, I partially tore my rotator cuff this past year and I decided to say "fuck it" and decided to play softball. I ended up hurting myself further. That's on me. Punk had his ribs broke and continued to wrestle. That's on Punk. I didn't blame my friends for letting me play. It was my own stupidity. At some point you need to be responsible for your own decisions.
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:12 AM   #125
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CM Punk is one of my all-time faves, but as a person, he's always seemed like a complete dick. Fair play to him for always being someone to stand up for himself, gotta respect that, but at the same time he's always been whiney and bitchy and more often than not comes across as a dick towards people that don't warrant it.

At the end of the day, he's had more success than most, being WWE champion for over a year isn't exactly "failing", even if he was always playing second fiddle to guys like Brock Lesnar, The Rock and John Cena. I'm happy more now for Ryback, because at least he has yet to bail on the company. And there's videos online of Punk in his indy days going off on younger guys and stiffing the shit out of them. So what's the point in whining that Ryback "kicked him too hard"?

If Punk is happy now, then good for him. Thanks for the memories and all that. Time to move on.
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:34 AM   #126
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Faggut.

Hate Punk so much and feel like he ruined the WWE for several years but loved the interview, really funny.

The bit about getting knocked out in the Rumble and asking the Dr. wat to do only for him to go "Iono" made me lol. Pretty damning.

Also quiet shots at Jericho and maybe Stone Cold at the end?
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With all the Vince/HHH talk I'm thinking two things:

1.)(cut a hole in the box) It's not out of the realm that this is all kayfabe and we will get rocked with some good back and forth.

2.)(Put your dick in the box)Vince/Stone Cold podcast coming out in a couple days, I want to say the elephant in the room will get addressed or brought up during that or else the listeners will cry foul.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:23 AM   #128
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I hope Vince doesn't talk about the Punk thing much at all on Austin's podcast tbh. There are way more interesting things I'd rather hear Vince talk about.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:25 AM   #129
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Then go get surgery. It was Punk's choice to continue wrestling through all of those injuries until he finally decided not to. On a much much much smaller scale, I partially tore my rotator cuff this past year and I decided to say "fuck it" and decided to play softball. I ended up hurting myself further. That's on me. Punk had his ribs broke and continued to wrestle. That's on Punk. I didn't blame my friends for letting me play. It was my own stupidity. At some point you need to be responsible for your own decisions.
Yeah, but I'll bet there wasn't a world of pressure on you to play that softball game.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:02 AM   #130
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I"m the man with the golden arm. That beer wasn't going to win itself.

Regardless, the world wasn't going to end if Punk opted for surgery. Hell, Daniel Bryan dropped the belt and got neck surgery and he was hotter than Punk ever was.
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I hope Vince doesn't talk about the Punk thing much at all on Austin's podcast tbh. There are way more interesting things I'd rather hear Vince talk about.
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I"m the man with the golden arm. That beer wasn't going to win itself.

Regardless, the world wasn't going to end if Punk opted for surgery. Hell, Daniel Bryan dropped the belt and got neck surgery and he was hotter than Punk ever was.
But Doctor's were not giving you the incorrect information that kept you from getting surgey.
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I"m the man with the golden arm. That beer wasn't going to win itself.

Regardless, the world wasn't going to end if Punk opted for surgery. Hell, Daniel Bryan dropped the belt and got neck surgery and he was hotter than Punk ever was.
I think you had the same mindset when listening to the cast. I was thinking of ways I could have seen myself in his shoes shooting on the U.S. Army, but I didn't really have a bad fallout with them. I was underpaid and worked into the ground, but not to the point where I'd bury their ass. I kept all that to myself. Especially 11 years ago, getting hit with a roadside bomb and coming back into the base and seeing a guy that didn't go out the gate at all get paid more than me.




This Punk/AOW podcast was kind of random and sudden, I'm going to hold on hope that we are just in for some kayfabe action. The Nexus mark in me believes this is a work.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:13 AM   #134
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Punk was diagnosed with a concussion and decided to wrestle. He had broken ribs but decided to wrestle. That's on Punk.
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CM Punk is one of my all-time faves, but as a person, he's always seemed like a complete dick. Fair play to him for always being someone to stand up for himself, gotta respect that, but at the same time he's always been whiney and bitchy and more often than not comes across as a dick towards people that don't warrant it.

At the end of the day, he's had more success than most, being WWE champion for over a year isn't exactly "failing", even if he was always playing second fiddle to guys like Brock Lesnar, The Rock and John Cena. I'm happy more now for Ryback, because at least he has yet to bail on the company. And there's videos online of Punk in his indy days going off on younger guys and stiffing the shit out of them. So what's the point in whining that Ryback "kicked him too hard"?

If Punk is happy now, then good for him. Thanks for the memories and all that. Time to move on.
Yeah I remember seeing a Botchmania video where Punk beat the fuck out of someone
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The story of Punk getting poked in the eye during the Nexus angle then instructing Gallows to kill everybody made me laugh for like an hour.
I laughed hard at that bit as well. Sadly I then re-watched what happened and Gallows basically gets swarmed straight away on the outside of the ring and never gets a lick of offense in. I don't think Punk was remembering things correctly.

It's possible he got poked in the eye though, I believe random guys continued hitting him while he was laid out outside the ring.
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At the end of the day, he's made and saved his money so he can basically enjoy life now and do things he enjoys, so hopefully Punk moves on and doesn't become another Bret Hart.
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CM Punk may be the smartest wrestler :

1. he made and obviously saved his cash
2. left at the height of his popularity
3. didn't have severe injuries or damage he can't heal from
4. married a sexy diva
5. didn't wrestle into his late 40's
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Since NXT Season 3 to now, AJ is still one of the more attractive diva's in memory.
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#5 is debateable wrestlers rarely retire with aj styles and somoa joe out there i see him working with one of them. then there is a jeff hardy fued left in him.
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So out of this interview we learned that wrestlers are back stabbers and wrestling promoters lie. Breaking news.
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at the end of the day, people wanted to hear Punk's side, so he gave his side.
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It would be more.believable if Kevin Sullivan were telling Punk's story.
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Since NXT Season 3 to now, AJ is still one of the more attractive diva's in memory.
Emma, Paige and Kaitlyn would beg to differ.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:24 PM   #146
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It would be more.believable if Kevin Sullivan were telling Punk's story.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:25 PM   #147
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I'm not so hot on Emma, Paige is cool but the way she doesn't like photo's taken of her by male fans kills that. Kaitlyn is off the market so meh.
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Gertner. Is Punk a bitch for complaining about injuries or is he an idiot for wrestling with broken ribs? Pick one.

I think the main point of the medical stuff was "alright. You have all these medical resources and tell everybody that the wrestlers health is a big priority now, is it true or not?" From what he said it doesn't sound like tey care all that much. Which is confusing because the care of their wrestlers is something they won't shut up about.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:33 PM   #149
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And you can say it was his decision to work through the injuries but you are blatantly ignoring the pressure Vince was putting on him to perform hurt or perform very shortly after major injuries. It's kind of hard to stick to your guns and ask for time off when you feel like you'll be reprimanded and depushed for worrying about your health.
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Yeah the mentality of being in the heat of it all is something hard to account for. Unfortunately Gertner's softball escapades don't really hold any weight Though if we can somehow throw Sid into the softball equation, we may have something.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:38 PM   #151
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Gertner. Is Punk a bitch for complaining about injuries or is he an idiot for wrestling with broken ribs? Pick one.

I think the main point of the medical stuff was "alright. You have all these medical resources and tell everybody that the wrestlers health is a big priority now, is it true or not?" From what he said it doesn't sound like tey care all that much. Which is confusing because the care of their wrestlers is something they won't shut up about.
He's both. If you're going to be an idiot, then be an idiot, just don't whine about the consequences.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:40 PM   #152
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And you can say it was his decision to work through the injuries but you are blatantly ignoring the pressure Vince was putting on him to perform hurt or perform very shortly after major injuries. It's kind of hard to stick to your guns and ask for time off when you feel like you'll be reprimanded and depushed for worrying about your health.
He's still his own man. Vince didn't have a gun to his head. Lol depushed. It's all fake. So he doesnt get to hold a pretend title. Woe is me.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:45 PM   #153
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You're being an idiot right now on purpose. Knock it off. Punk cares about wrestling and loves the business, of course he wouldn't want to be depushed or reprimanded. Nobody would. It's ridiculous that he has to worry about that for just trying to get healthy. Don't do the "he's his own man" thing when his livlihood is being held over his head.

If all of is is to be believed, this is clearly Vince McMahon's fault and the medical staff's fault. Constant pressure to peform and inadequate medical advice. I mean, untreated staph infections kill people all the time. He could have died. This is pretty serious, dude.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:48 PM   #154
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If you are being an objective person, you can't just discount and excuse Vince constantly scheduling him to perform far before he was medically ready to do so.
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WWE sounds like a huge unethical mess, but if it's been that awful for that long, Punk should have left a long time ago.

Instead he decided to curse everyone out, stay, and agree to work just to try to "main event Mania." Putting so much stock into "going on last" makes him sound like more of a mark.

Based on his side of the story, he was mistreated medically/professionally which sucks and is way wrong, but the shit didn't hit the fan until he realized he wasn't going to be "the guy" at WM30.

WWE is definitely a mess, but Punk also sounds ridiculous for going along, enduring all the shit, and not leaving sooner just to maybe have a chance to "go on last".
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He's still his own man. Vince didn't have a gun to his head. Lol depushed. It's all fake. So he doesnt get to hold a pretend title. Woe is me.
That pretend title comes with a pay raise. The top guys get paid more than the midcard and lowcard guys. If he gets depushed for attempting to tend to his own injuries, he could suffer a pay cut. He will also less less merchendise. I know that you know this.
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I'm not so hot on Emma, Paige is cool but the way she doesn't like photo's taken of her by male fans kills that. Kaitlyn is off the market so meh.
you've got to be kidding on the paige point, you fucking weirdo.
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